Dustin Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Previous Installments:The RBs - Hub PostThe WRs - Hub PostThe Off-Ball LBs - Hub PostThe EDGEs - Hub PostThe DTs - Hub PostThe CBs - Hub PostMock Draftable chart: http://mockdraftable.com/player/4944/Games watched: vs Florida, vs Mississippi State, vs Auburn (2013)The Good: Prototypical SS size. He comes in at 6'0" and 230 lbs. Basically a small LB. Closes quickly on the ball. He has very good straight-line speed (4.53). ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/ElaborateHoarseAdouri.webmHigh-energy. Wants to be involved in every play. Powerful hitter. Not only when launching, but he bring the heat even when he form tackles. Very strong, powerful player. Can separate the ball from the WR at the catch-point. ex. http://fat.gfycat.com/MeanWaryAzurevase.webm ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/PlayfulBouncyAfricanmolesnake.webmShows good ball-skills. Made a lot of great interceptions. ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/GaseousGeneralKob.webmDoes a good job of following the QBs eyes and breaking on the ball. ex. http://fat.gfycat.com/PresentLeadingIchidna.webm ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/SatisfiedDeepAtlanticridleyturtle.webm ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/PrestigiousTatteredAfricanhornbill.webmFantastic tackler. He's the opposite of Laron Landry. ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/AggressiveSnarlingHummingbird.webm ex. http://fat.gfycat.com/EllipticalJealousAmericanshorthair.webm ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/BlueGlassCatfish.webm ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/DimSmartJoey.webm ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/MadGrimAmazontreeboa.webmStrong enough to bring down ball-carriers with arm tackles even if his initial tackle is avoided. Inc reases his tackling range. ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/JollyTangibleAustrianpinscher.webmTakes good angles to the ball-carrier. Makes a bunch of tackles on special teams. ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/AgileVacantHorse.webmEven with his physical, hard-hitting style, he does a good job of avoiding the unnecessary penalty. ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/DazzlingBrightBichonfrise.webmContinues the trend of Alabama safeties being great blitzes off the edge. The Bad:Aside from straight-line speed, he's not really all that athletic. Lateral agility (3-cone and 20-yard shuttles) and explosion drills (broad and vertical) ranged from very bad to average. His numbers at the combine are good for a LB, but not for a safety. Stiff-hipped and doesn't look natural in coverage. He looks very much like an inside linebacker that's playing safety. And because of that, he'll be a guy who will get picked on. Very scheme protected at Alabama. Played almost exclusively a box/half field/nickel-lb role in the Crimson Tide defense. Recovery speed isn't that good. Mostly because he's slow to turn and run. Prone to the occasional lunge and miss.Conclusion:Collins is an old-school, in the box safety.. And a very good one at that. He'll make his mark in run defense where I have no doubt he'll dominate. He;ll never be a dominant coverage safety, he's too limited athletically (maybe if he dropped from 230 to 215 he'd move more naturally (i think that's what he played at in 2013 and you can see how much of a difference it makes)) but he does offer position versatility as both a SS and a LB. Projected Round: 1stNFL Comparison: TJ Ward, DEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wig Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I think that Collins, above anyone else besides maybe Kendricks, would come in and make an immediate impact for the team. For that reason, I wouldn't object to moving up a couple of spots to take him if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wig Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 And since you mentioned him, Ward is responsible for my favorite hit of all time. One of many for him, but this is just savage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#BringBobBack Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 with how we seem to alternate safeties and have dual threats at the position (who landry was neither) would collins make us change to strictly using a FS and a SS because i never felt offenses were confused when landry played center field they just said "throw there" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#BringBobBack Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Previous Installments:The RBs - Hub PostThe WRs - Hub PostThe Off-Ball LBs - Hub PostThe EDGEs - Hub PostThe DTs - Hub PostThe CBs - Hub PostMock Draftable chart: http://mockdraftable.com/player/4944/Games watched: vs Florida, vs Mississippi State, vs Auburn (2013)The Good: Prototypical SS size. He comes in at 6'0" and 230 lbs. Basically a small LB. Closes quickly on the ball. He has very good straight-line speed (4.53). ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/ElaborateHoarseAdouri.webmHigh-energy. Wants to be involved in every play. Powerful hitter. Not only when launching, but he bring the heat even when he form tackles. Very strong, powerful player. Can separate the ball from the WR at the catch-point.ex. http://fat.gfycat.com/MeanWaryAzurevase.webmex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/PlayfulBouncyAfricanmolesnake.webmShows good ball-skills. Made a lot of great interceptions. ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/GaseousGeneralKob.webmDoes a good job of following the QBs eyes and breaking on the ball. ex. http://fat.gfycat.com/PresentLeadingIchidna.webmex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/SatisfiedDeepAtlanticridleyturtle.webmex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/PrestigiousTatteredAfricanhornbill.webmFantastic tackler. He's the opposite of Laron Landry. ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/AggressiveSnarlingHummingbird.webmex. http://fat.gfycat.com/EllipticalJealousAmericanshorthair.webmex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/BlueGlassCatfish.webmex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/DimSmartJoey.webmex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/MadGrimAmazontreeboa.webmStrong enough to bring down ball-carriers with arm tackles even if his initial tackle is avoided. Inc reases his tackling range.ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/JollyTangibleAustrianpinscher.webmTakes good angles to the ball-carrier. Makes a bunch of tackles on special teams.ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/AgileVacantHorse.webmEven with his physical, hard-hitting style, he does a good job of avoiding the unnecessary penalty.ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/DazzlingBrightBichonfrise.webmContinues the trend of Alabama safeties being great blitzes off the edge. The Bad:Aside from straight-line speed, he's not really all that athletic. Lateral agility (3-cone and 20-yard shuttles) and explosion drills (broad and vertical) ranged from very bad to average. His numbers at the combine are good for a LB, but not for a safety. Stiff-hipped and doesn't look natural in coverage. He looks very much like an inside linebacker that's playing safety. And because of that, he'll be a guy who will get picked on. Very scheme protected at Alabama. Played almost exclusively a box/half field/nickel-lb role in the Crimson Tide defense. Recovery speed isn't that good. Mostly because he's slow to turn and run. Prone to the occasional lunge and miss.Conclusion:Collins is an old-school, in the box safety.. And a very good one at that. He'll make his mark in run defense where I have no doubt he'll dominate. He;ll never be a dominant coverage safety, he's too limited athletically (maybe if he dropped from 230 to 215 he'd move more naturally (i think that's what he played at in 2013 and you can see how much of a difference it makes)) but he does offer position versatility as both a SS and a LB. Projected Round: 1stNFL Comparison: TJ Ward, DENwhich other safeties are you profiling Dustin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterBowman Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Collins is kind of growing on me...but if Kendricks or Dupree are available at 29, I'd go for them first. That's why the 1st round is exciting to me this year for the Colts.....there are so many different directions they could go in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share Posted April 3, 2015 which other safeties are you profiling Dustin? Derron Smith, Anthony Harris, Adrian Amos, Cody Prewitt, and Gerod Holliman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 For whatever it's worth, in an interview with Collins that I saw on his pro day he said he wants to play in the NFL at 221. I think that's a much better weight for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggs32 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 215-220 seems like a better playing weight. Might help with the lateral agility/tight hips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAFHoosier Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Derron Smith, Anthony Harris, Adrian Amos, Cody Prewitt, and Gerod Holliman.I was hoping you were going to do one on Tartt. The kid is a very interesting prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share Posted April 3, 2015 I was hoping you were going to do one on Tartt. The kid is a very interesting prospect. He only has 1 game on DB, so I really don't have a lot to go off of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAFHoosier Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 He only has 1 game on DB, so I really don't have a lot to go off of.Right on, I can understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 with how we seem to alternate safeties and have dual threats at the position (who landry was neither) would collins make us change to strictly using a FS and a SS because i never felt offenses were confused when landry played center field they just said "throw there" I think Collins would be fine at center field. Like Dustin said, he has plenty of straight-line speed. I think he has enough range, also. And in the box, where he can support the run and break on plays in his zone, he'd be fine. Where he'd be a problem would be in man coverage against TEs and slot receivers, anything where he has to mirror, flip and run, etc. That's his liability area, and to an extent you can hide him, but he'll have to play some man coverage even in the most conservative defense. He'd still be better than Landry in man coverage, but one on one with Julius Thomas on the goal line is still a huge mismatch. I think he's kind of a Kam Chancellor type of safety, Not as big and won't be as much of a LB in the run game, but still more than adequate. Someone earlier said he's worth trading up for. I disagree. If he's there at #29, I'd be okay with it, depending on who else is on the board. I'd rather have a lot of the DL/OL that I think will be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share Posted April 3, 2015 I think Collins would be fine at center field. Like Dustin said, he has plenty of straight-line speed. I think he has enough range, also. And in the box, where he can support the run and break on plays in his zone, he'd be fine. Where he'd be a problem would be in man coverage against TEs and slot receivers, anything where he has to mirror, flip and run, etc. That's his liability area, and to an extent you can hide him, but he'll have to play some man coverage even in the most conservative defense. He'd still be better than Landry in man coverage, but one on one with Julius Thomas on the goal line is still a huge mismatch. I think he's kind of a Kam Chancellor type of safety, Not as big and won't be as much of a LB in the run game, but still more than adequate. Someone earlier said he's worth trading up for. I disagree. If he's there at #29, I'd be okay with it, depending on who else is on the board. I'd rather have a lot of the DL/OL that I think will be there. I'm watching a few more safeties at the moment, and I think it's pretty clear that Collins is by far the best one available. Which is says more on the quality of the rest of the class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wig Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 He only has 1 game on DB, so I really don't have a lot to go off of.And that one is pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#BringBobBack Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I think Collins would be fine at center field. Like Dustin said, he has plenty of straight-line speed. I think he has enough range, also. And in the box, where he can support the run and break on plays in his zone, he'd be fine. Where he'd be a problem would be in man coverage against TEs and slot receivers, anything where he has to mirror, flip and run, etc. That's his liability area, and to an extent you can hide him, but he'll have to play some man coverage even in the most conservative defense. He'd still be better than Landry in man coverage, but one on one with Julius Thomas on the goal line is still a huge mismatch. I think he's kind of a Kam Chancellor type of safety, Not as big and won't be as much of a LB in the run game, but still more than adequate. Someone earlier said he's worth trading up for. I disagree. If he's there at #29, I'd be okay with it, depending on who else is on the board. I'd rather have a lot of the DL/OL that I think will be there. I'm watching a few more safeties at the moment, and I think it's pretty clear that Collins is by far the best one available. Which is says more on the quality of the rest of the class. thanks for the insight collins one of the few i haven't researched too too much because i expect him to be off the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlhart87 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Hey Dustin coverage wise who do you think the best Safeties are in this class? I like the fact that Collins plays the run well but his pass D scares me.He has BUST written all over him IMO.Never draft an ITB Safety that high ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 Hey Dustin coverage wise who do you think the best Safeties are in this class? I like the fact that Collins plays the run well but his pass D scares me.He has BUST written all over him IMO.Never draft an ITB Safety that high ever. I've only watched a few safeties in depth so I don't have much to gauge, but of the 3 i've watched so far, I'd say Anthony Harris is the best in coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theanarchist Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 If you believe the Mock Drafts out there, this is the guy we'll take in the first round. In theory, its a good pick. We need run support from the back end. My guess is that Collins is the best option out there as a run support Safety in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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