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Scouting Profile: Landon Collins, S, Alabama - The "Lots of .gifs Edition!"


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Mock Draftable chart: http://mockdraftable.com/player/4944/

Games watched: vs Florida, vs Mississippi State, vs Auburn (2013)

The Good:

Prototypical SS size. He comes in at 6'0" and 230 lbs. Basically a small LB.

Closes quickly on the ball. He has very good straight-line speed (4.53).

ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/ElaborateHoarseAdouri.webm

High-energy. Wants to be involved in every play.

Powerful hitter. Not only when launching, but he bring the heat even when he form tackles. Very strong, powerful player. Can separate the ball from the WR at the catch-point.

ex. http://fat.gfycat.com/MeanWaryAzurevase.webm

ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/PlayfulBouncyAfricanmolesnake.webm

Shows good ball-skills. Made a lot of great interceptions.

ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/GaseousGeneralKob.webm

Does a good job of following the QBs eyes and breaking on the ball.

ex. http://fat.gfycat.com/PresentLeadingIchidna.webm

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Fantastic tackler. He's the opposite of Laron Landry.

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Strong enough to bring down ball-carriers with arm tackles even if his initial tackle is avoided. Inc reases his tackling range.

ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/JollyTangibleAustrianpinscher.webm

Takes good angles to the ball-carrier.

Makes a bunch of tackles on special teams.

ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/AgileVacantHorse.webm

Even with his physical, hard-hitting style, he does a good job of avoiding the unnecessary penalty.

ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/DazzlingBrightBichonfrise.webm

Continues the trend of Alabama safeties being great blitzes off the edge.

The Bad:

Aside from straight-line speed, he's not really all that athletic. Lateral agility (3-cone and 20-yard shuttles) and explosion drills (broad and vertical) ranged from very bad to average. His numbers at the combine are good for a LB, but not for a safety.

Stiff-hipped and doesn't look natural in coverage. He looks very much like an inside linebacker that's playing safety. And because of that, he'll be a guy who will get picked on.

Very scheme protected at Alabama. Played almost exclusively a box/half field/nickel-lb role in the Crimson Tide defense.

Recovery speed isn't that good. Mostly because he's slow to turn and run.

Prone to the occasional lunge and miss.

Conclusion:

Collins is an old-school, in the box safety.. And a very good one at that. He'll make his mark in run defense where I have no doubt he'll dominate. He;ll never be a dominant coverage safety, he's too limited athletically (maybe if he dropped from 230 to 215 he'd move more naturally (i think that's what he played at in 2013 and you can see how much of a difference it makes)) but he does offer position versatility as both a SS and a LB.

Projected Round: 1st

NFL Comparison: TJ Ward, DEN

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I think that Collins, above anyone else besides maybe Kendricks, would come in and make an immediate impact for the team.  For that reason, I wouldn't object to moving up a couple of spots to take him if necessary.

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with how we seem to alternate safeties and have dual threats at the position (who landry was neither) would collins make us change to strictly using a FS and a SS because i never felt offenses were confused when landry played center field they just said "throw there"

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Previous Installments:

The RBs - Hub Post

The WRs - Hub Post

The Off-Ball LBs - Hub Post

The EDGEs - Hub Post

The DTs - Hub Post

The CBs - Hub Post

Landon+Collins+Alabama+v+Auburn+SR35o1Ug

Mock Draftable chart: http://mockdraftable.com/player/4944/

Games watched: vs Florida, vs Mississippi State, vs Auburn (2013)

The Good:

Prototypical SS size. He comes in at 6'0" and 230 lbs. Basically a small LB.

Closes quickly on the ball. He has very good straight-line speed (4.53).

ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/ElaborateHoarseAdouri.webm

High-energy. Wants to be involved in every play.

Powerful hitter. Not only when launching, but he bring the heat even when he form tackles. Very strong, powerful player. Can separate the ball from the WR at the catch-point.

ex. http://fat.gfycat.com/MeanWaryAzurevase.webm

ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/PlayfulBouncyAfricanmolesnake.webm

Shows good ball-skills. Made a lot of great interceptions.

ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/GaseousGeneralKob.webm

Does a good job of following the QBs eyes and breaking on the ball.

ex. http://fat.gfycat.com/PresentLeadingIchidna.webm

ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/SatisfiedDeepAtlanticridleyturtle.webm

ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/PrestigiousTatteredAfricanhornbill.webm

Fantastic tackler. He's the opposite of Laron Landry.

ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/AggressiveSnarlingHummingbird.webm

ex. http://fat.gfycat.com/EllipticalJealousAmericanshorthair.webm

ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/BlueGlassCatfish.webm

ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/DimSmartJoey.webm

ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/MadGrimAmazontreeboa.webm

Strong enough to bring down ball-carriers with arm tackles even if his initial tackle is avoided. Inc reases his tackling range.

ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/JollyTangibleAustrianpinscher.webm

Takes good angles to the ball-carrier.

Makes a bunch of tackles on special teams.

ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/AgileVacantHorse.webm

Even with his physical, hard-hitting style, he does a good job of avoiding the unnecessary penalty.

ex. http://zippy.gfycat.com/DazzlingBrightBichonfrise.webm

Continues the trend of Alabama safeties being great blitzes off the edge.

The Bad:

Aside from straight-line speed, he's not really all that athletic. Lateral agility (3-cone and 20-yard shuttles) and explosion drills (broad and vertical) ranged from very bad to average. His numbers at the combine are good for a LB, but not for a safety.

Stiff-hipped and doesn't look natural in coverage. He looks very much like an inside linebacker that's playing safety. And because of that, he'll be a guy who will get picked on.

Very scheme protected at Alabama. Played almost exclusively a box/half field/nickel-lb role in the Crimson Tide defense.

Recovery speed isn't that good. Mostly because he's slow to turn and run.

Prone to the occasional lunge and miss.

Conclusion:

Collins is an old-school, in the box safety.. And a very good one at that. He'll make his mark in run defense where I have no doubt he'll dominate. He;ll never be a dominant coverage safety, he's too limited athletically (maybe if he dropped from 230 to 215 he'd move more naturally (i think that's what he played at in 2013 and you can see how much of a difference it makes)) but he does offer position versatility as both a SS and a LB.

Projected Round: 1st

NFL Comparison: TJ Ward, DEN

which other safeties are you profiling Dustin?

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Collins is kind of growing on me...but if Kendricks or Dupree are available at 29, I'd go for them first.

 

That's why the 1st round is exciting to me this year for the Colts.....there are so many different directions they could go in.

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with how we seem to alternate safeties and have dual threats at the position (who landry was neither) would collins make us change to strictly using a FS and a SS because i never felt offenses were confused when landry played center field they just said "throw there"

 

I think Collins would be fine at center field. Like Dustin said, he has plenty of straight-line speed. I think he has enough range, also.

 

And in the box, where he can support the run and break on plays in his zone, he'd be fine. Where he'd be a problem would be in man coverage against TEs and slot receivers, anything where he has to mirror, flip and run, etc. That's his liability area, and to an extent you can hide him, but he'll have to play some man coverage even in the most conservative defense. He'd still be better than Landry in man coverage, but one on one with Julius Thomas on the goal line is still a huge mismatch.

 

I think he's kind of a Kam Chancellor type of safety, Not as big and won't be as much of a LB in the run game, but still more than adequate. 

 

Someone earlier said he's worth trading up for. I disagree. If he's there at #29, I'd be okay with it, depending on who else is on the board. I'd rather have a lot of the DL/OL that I think will be there. 

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I think Collins would be fine at center field. Like Dustin said, he has plenty of straight-line speed. I think he has enough range, also.

 

And in the box, where he can support the run and break on plays in his zone, he'd be fine. Where he'd be a problem would be in man coverage against TEs and slot receivers, anything where he has to mirror, flip and run, etc. That's his liability area, and to an extent you can hide him, but he'll have to play some man coverage even in the most conservative defense. He'd still be better than Landry in man coverage, but one on one with Julius Thomas on the goal line is still a huge mismatch.

 

I think he's kind of a Kam Chancellor type of safety, Not as big and won't be as much of a LB in the run game, but still more than adequate. 

 

Someone earlier said he's worth trading up for. I disagree. If he's there at #29, I'd be okay with it, depending on who else is on the board. I'd rather have a lot of the DL/OL that I think will be there. 

 

I'm watching a few more safeties at the moment, and I think it's pretty clear that Collins is by far the best one available. Which is says more on the quality of the rest of the class. 

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I think Collins would be fine at center field. Like Dustin said, he has plenty of straight-line speed. I think he has enough range, also.

 

And in the box, where he can support the run and break on plays in his zone, he'd be fine. Where he'd be a problem would be in man coverage against TEs and slot receivers, anything where he has to mirror, flip and run, etc. That's his liability area, and to an extent you can hide him, but he'll have to play some man coverage even in the most conservative defense. He'd still be better than Landry in man coverage, but one on one with Julius Thomas on the goal line is still a huge mismatch.

 

I think he's kind of a Kam Chancellor type of safety, Not as big and won't be as much of a LB in the run game, but still more than adequate. 

 

Someone earlier said he's worth trading up for. I disagree. If he's there at #29, I'd be okay with it, depending on who else is on the board. I'd rather have a lot of the DL/OL that I think will be there. 

 

I'm watching a few more safeties at the moment, and I think it's pretty clear that Collins is by far the best one available. Which is says more on the quality of the rest of the class. 

thanks for the insight collins one of the few i haven't researched too too much because i expect him to be off the board 

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Hey Dustin coverage wise who do you think the best Safeties are in this class? I like the fact that Collins plays the run well but his pass D scares me.

He has BUST written all over him IMO.

Never draft an ITB Safety that high ever.

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Hey Dustin coverage wise who do you think the best Safeties are in this class? I like the fact that Collins plays the run well but his pass D scares me.

He has BUST written all over him IMO.

Never draft an ITB Safety that high ever.

 

I've only watched a few safeties in depth so I don't have much to gauge, but of the 3 i've watched so far, I'd say Anthony Harris is the best in coverage.  

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If you believe the Mock Drafts out there, this is the guy we'll take in the first round. In theory, its a good pick. We need run support from the back end. My guess is that Collins is the best option out there as a run support Safety in this draft.

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