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So do you like this signing ? It's another old dude but he did give V Davis fits...

 

I like all the signings. 

 

It's hard to complain about the cost of AJ when he had 7 other teams waiting in line, and the Chargers reportedly offered him more money. 

 

And it's hard to complain about the cost of Trent Cole when he had multiple visits and reportedly had other offers as well. 

 

Frank Gore is $4m/year, I'll never complain about that kind of deal.

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He actually was. AJ had 141 targets, Hopkins had 120.

 

Hopkins was more productive and way more efficient. AJ still got more looks.

Interesting. He must have gotten more looks from Keenum/Mallett because Fitz was always looking Hopkins' way. Must have carried over from the training camp thing.

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Sure, maybe. I just don't see Johnson in the same league as Reggie as a receiver. Reggie is one of the greatest of all time. Andre has been great but not Reggie-great. lol.

 

Statistically, he's been better than Reggie. And with worse QBing.

 

Reggie: 14 years, 211 games, 1,070 catches, 14,345 yards, 82 TDs (per year: 76 catches, 1,024 yards, 5.9 TDs)

Andre: 12 years, 169 games, 1,012 catches, 13,597 yards, 67 TDs (per year: 84 catches, 1,133 yards, 5.3 TDs)

 

Even comparing their statistical peaks, Reggie has one 1,500 yard / 10 TD season; Andre has two 1,500 yard / 8+ TD seasons.

 

Reggie is one of my favorite receivers of all time. A technician, great hands, Mr. Reliable. Special place in my heart. But Andre has been a mega-producer for a long time, most of it as the sole receiving weapon on the roster (Marvin Harrison/Dallas Clark/Pierre Garcon vs Andrew Walter/Owen Daniels/?). 

 

I'm not expecting 100 catches and 1,300 yards. But he's not some over the hill afterthought that's hanging on trying to extend his career. He's younger than Jerry Rice in Oakland. Way younger.

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? he had 900 yards with terrible qb play last year

The Colts didn't sign Frank Gore to sling the ball 67 times a game this season. I'm not sure why you keep harking on the "terrible QB play" as if that has anything to do with Andre's role with the Colts.

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The Colts didn't sign Frank Gore to sling the ball 67 times a game this season. I'm not sure why you keep harking on the "terrible QB play" as if that has anything to do with Andre's role with the Colts.

he will be catching passes with a much better qb than he has ever had. He will have a big year

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The Colts didn't sign Frank Gore to sling the ball 67 times a game this season. I'm not sure why you keep harking on the "terrible QB play" as if that has anything to do with Andre's role with the Colts.

 

It speaks to his ability. He could probably get 900 yards on 75% of the targets in Indy. Reggie had 800 yards on 115 targets, 6.9 yards/target.

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Statistically, he's been better than Reggie. And with worse QBing.

 

Reggie: 14 years, 211 games, 1,070 catches, 14,345 yards, 82 TDs (per year: 76 catches, 1,024 yards, 5.9 TDs)

Andre: 12 years, 169 games, 1,012 catches, 13,597 yards, 67 TDs (per year: 84 catches, 1,133 yards, 5.3 TDs)

 

Even comparing their statistical peaks, Reggie has one 1,500 yard / 10 TD season; Andre has two 1,500 yard / 8+ TD seasons.

 

Reggie is one of my favorite receivers of all time. A technician, great hands, Mr. Reliable. Special place in my heart. But Andre has been a mega-producer for a long time, most of it as the sole receiving weapon on the roster (Marvin Harrison/Dallas Clark/Pierre Garcon vs Andrew Walter/Owen Daniels/?). 

 

I'm not expecting 100 catches and 1,300 yards. But he's not some over the hill afterthought that's hanging on trying to extend his career. He's younger than Jerry Rice in Oakland. Way younger.

My only point is I don't think he produces for you the way Reggie did in 2012. You were the one that made the comparison to the Texans getting a 2012 Reggie. I do not believe that is what the Colts are getting in this deal but he could surprise given he has Luck slinging it to him.

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My only point is I don't think he produces for you the way Reggie did in 2012. You were the one that made the comparison to the Texans getting a 2012 Reggie. I do not believe that is what the Colts are getting in this deal but he could surprise given he has Luck slinging it to him.

Then this is a bad deal if he doesn't produce close to Reggie in 2012.

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My only point is I don't think he produces for you the way Reggie did in 2012. You were the one that made the comparison to the Texans getting a 2012 Reggie. I do not believe that is what the Colts are getting in this deal but he could surprise given he has Luck slinging it to him.

 

That comparison had nothing to do with impact. It was about emotion.

 

I said already, I don't expect 2012 Reggie production, but I think it's foolhardy to write it off. Andre Johnson is a great receiver. No reason he shouldn't be mentioned in the same class as Reggie Wayne.

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It speaks to his ability. He could probably get 900 yards on 75% of the targets in Indy. Reggie had 800 yards on 115 targets, 6.9 yards/target.

I could see that. But I wonder if Hamilton intends on him being the number one or number two guy, and if he will temper Andre along with his plays like he did with Bradshaw. In any case, the Colts do have quite a few receiving options to go to.

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That comparison had nothing to do with impact. It was about emotion.

 

I said already, I don't expect 2012 Reggie production, but I think it's foolhardy to write it off. Andre Johnson is a great receiver. No reason he shouldn't be mentioned in the same class as Reggie Wayne.

I really don't get the signing at all though. You didn't need an outside guy. You need help with your lines. Your offense was plenty good last year with Luck passing but no run game as no line and the Dline was also poor.

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I really don't get the signing at all though. You didn't need an outside guy. You need help with your lines. Your offense was plenty good last year with Luck passing but no run game as no line and the Dline was also poor.

Andre will play a lot in the slot like Reggie im sure

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