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The ProFootball talk article makes sense.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/20/grigsons-admission-puts-kensil-under-more-scrutiny/

 

I still want to know what possessed Grigson to reach out to the NFL in the first place but you can't hate him for simply voicing a concern and the NFL didn't proactively do anything about it. He calls Kensil and expects them to take care of it, and Kensil doesn't do anything about it except just try to poorly catch them red handed without the refs or rest of NFL knowing about it.

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Are you joking?

Framing another team to take a fall and be punished for something they didn't do goes light years beyond some psi in a football.

Besides the fact that it would be a deplorable, despicable act that only someone without a shred of honor or dignity would do, it goes into a subterfuge/sabotage area which is a FELONY.

unbelievable

This is pure horse dung.

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It would seem Grigson is telling the truth and Blandino is lying. Which one has an advantage if he lies? Blandino of course.

On a side note, Adam Shefter has at every chance possible defended the Patriots in this, as far as his opinion goes. I find it odd that a man who's job it is to break NFL stories, is only finding sources that defend the Patriots. His job means nothing if he's not objective. I think this gives the impression that his acumen is slipping down a slope. An info man should never look as though he's taking sides.

Bob Kravitz on the other hand is one of the most objective sports journalists out there.

Google both of these guys. Kravitz is known for taking shots at Indiana teams. A homer would never do that, for fear of being kicked out of the club. Schefter seemed to be objective until recently. He is now starting to look like an ESPN hometown homer. He probably fears he'll be kicked out of the club.

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Posted · Hidden by Nadine, February 20, 2015 - personal shot
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sorry, but I haven't "poked" anybody, blamed Colts fans, or called Colts fans a bunch of whiners. I'm posting in a public forum in a thread devoted to a topic I'm interested in. Unless what I'm doing is against the forum rules, then I don't understand why you and others feel the need to follow me around, ask me why I'm here, take threads off topic, and generally harass me. It's actually kind of immature. If you aren't interested in this topic, then it's real simple...don't reply to this thread. I don't know what else to tell you.

Naturally you know how to poke and aggravate within the rules. You and a few other Patriot fans have become very good at skirting the rules. Your comments are pre meditated made with the intent of aggravating Colt fans. You and your type are a total joke. But if stuff like this flips your trigger it is a sad way to conduct yourself. Just shows what little class you have. It's Patriot fans like you who contribute to why there are a lot of Colts fans who dislike Patriot fans. You come off as arrogant and self serving.

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At this point there's so much conflicting information being relased that it'll be best to wait until the official report comes out

 

if the Pats are exoneratd, then we should just move on

 

 

but if they are found guilty...again, then I would hope the book is thrown at them........we'll just have to wait and see

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Wow, Kraft is recognized around the league as a class act and someone who genuinely cares about the league as a whole and has been an instrumental piece in resolving CBA issues and expanding the advertising contracts with the networks.

Your own Jeff Saturday said Kraft was a great man and hugged him in a press conference that announced the new CBA had been reached, and credited his efforts with getting the deal done.

You're way off base to say that Kraft is slime when everything he's done has been the opposite.

maybe you should look at your owner before making such defamatory remarks about a great man.

A great man? Because he owns a football team? Geez, join the real world sometime.

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Naturally you know how to poke and aggravate within the rules. You and a few other Patriot fans have become very good at skirting the rules. Your comments are pre meditated made with the intent of aggravating Colt fans. You and your type are a total joke. But if stuff like this flips your trigger it is a sad way to conduct yourself. Just shows what little class you have. It's Patriot fans like you who contribute to why there are a lot of Colts fans who dislike Patriot fans. You come off as arrogant and self serving.

As I said before, I was interested in this thread in the beginning.   But now that it's obvious nothing will happen, if anything, until 2017, I lost interest.  But, this exact thing that you are describing is what really bothers me.  Going right up to the line and insulting people.  Just careful not to go over it.  I came close to I'm sure many warnings yesterday.  Not that it's that big of a deal.  But, then I realized a bully will always bully. Nothing will change.  You are spot on, crazy colt!  Spot on!

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Tell me 1 thing Kraft has done since owning the team that could be classified as "slimey"

Crying on national TV about his poor dead wife, then showing up courtside at a basketball game arm & arm with some young blonde just a couple of weeks later.

 

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It would seem Grigson is telling the truth and Blandino is lying. Which one has an advantage if he lies? Blandino of course.

On a side note, Adam Shefter has at every chance possible defended the Patriots in this, as far as his opinion goes. I find it odd that a man who's job it is to break NFL stories, is only finding sources that defend the Patriots. His job means nothing if he's not objective. I think this gives the impression that his acumen is slipping down a slope. An info man should never look as though he's taking sides.

Bob Kravitz on the other hand is one of the most objective sports journalists out there.

Google both of these guys. Kravitz is known for taking shots at Indiana teams. A homer would never do that, for fear of being kicked out of the club. Schefter seemed to be objective until recently. He is now starting to look like an ESPN hometown homer. He probably fears he'll be kicked out of the club.

It's entirely possible Grigson is telling the truth and Blandino is telling the truth. Someone at the NFL (presumably Kensil) chose not to inform his NFL colleagues or referees and proactively reach out to the Patriots due to his vendetta against the Pats and wanted to catch them redhanded.

 

I don't blame Schefter for refuting ESPN one bit the other day. The Pats saw their guy was about to have his life flipped over Steve Bartman style due to a rogue NFL guy collecting balls and trying to sell them and probably just told him about the video of the guy giving the ball to McNally to clear his name. However I am ticked at him for stirring the pot on WEEI saying "people believe the Colts deflated the ball" - pure grab for more twitter followers.

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The ProFootball talk article makes sense.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/20/grigsons-admission-puts-kensil-under-more-scrutiny/

 

I still want to know what possessed Grigson to reach out to the NFL in the first place but you can't hate him for simply voicing a concern and the NFL didn't proactively do anything about it. He calls Kensil and expects them to take care of it, and Kensil doesn't do anything about it except just try to poorly catch them red handed without the refs or rest of NFL knowing about it.

There are time we don't share the same opinion but your point is easy to explain. Goodell and Kraft are buddy-buddy. Goodell does not want to find anything negative on Kraft or the Patriots. The conflict of interest would look bad with his rubbing elbows with an owner. In most businesses it is against the rules for the employer to fraternize with an employee. It is real apparent that Goodell and Kraft have a relationship that goes beyond employer and employee. It is those types of relationships that cause alarm in a business. We all must keep in mind that Goodell is bought and paid for by the owners. He is the face who stands in front of the camera and takes the heat. He is a very well paid puppet to keep the issues focused on himself rather than the owners. All this could be avoided had the NFL really conducted itself like a regular business. But that would interfere with golf outings and Christmas parties.

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Viri ~  It seems nothing is adding up correctly anywhere these days.   :sigh:

 

The story just gets crazier as the days go by.

 

Man you said it Gramz. This is so crazy. I'm waiting for Oliver Stone to write a script about it! 

 

(My money is on the guy on the grassy knoll deflating the footballs and stealing the one intended for charity...  :D )

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Man you said it Gramz. This is so crazy. I'm waiting for Oliver Stone to write a script about it! 

 

(My money is on the guy on the grassy knoll deflating the footballs and stealing the one intended for charity...  :D )

Now that's funny!......

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Totally bizarre twists these past two days. It looks like Mike Kensil is quite possibly dirty in this, and if he did set up a "sting" operation to get back at the Patriots for past frustrations, then he would have knowingly allowed the team to play with deflated balls in the first half, jeopardizing Indy's chances of advancing to the Super Bowl. Regardless of how the game turned out, if I'm one of you guys, I'm furious about that. 

 

Then Kelly Naqi (the ESPN writer who broke the story on the K-ball this week), it turns out, is connected to Kensil, as well as several other people (such as her husband) who have ties to the league office: 

 

 

Kelly Naqi is the spouse of Hussain Naqi, a former league office employee from 1998 to 2002 who has kept up his strong Park Avenue ties through his present job as an executive for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

 

Prior to working in the NFL offices, Hussain Naqi was as a paralegal for Covington & Burling, a Washington, D.C.-based law firm that has represented the NFL in different matters over the years, including the 2010 lawsuit brought by suspended Saints players in the wake of Bountygate suspensions. Former NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue is a partner at the firm.

 

More recently, Hussain Naqi worked for the New Meadowlands Stadium Company in East Rutherford, N.J. There, he served as Vice President of Business Planning and General Counsel at MetLife Stadium, the home of the Jets and Giants. Naqi would have worked closely with the league office on all the logistics for Super Bowl 48. The man in charge of “running” the Super Bowl for the NFL is its Vice President of Game Operations. He would speak to Naqi a lot. His name is Mike Kensil.

 

Just because Kelly Naqi’s spouse worked for and with the NFL for much of his career shouldn’t preclude her from reporting on the league.

 

But in a story this explosive, the lines of battle between the NFL and one of its member franchises are clearly drawn. It’s the NFL vs. The New England Patriots.

 

An investigative report from someone whose spouse has been closely aligned with the NFL for much of his professional life is going to raise suspicions that the league just keeps dropping nuggets and undermining the integrity of the process.

 

http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/curran-strong-nfl-link-recent-deflategate-leak

 

 

I honestly don't know what to believe anymore. It's disappointing because quite frankly the damage to the Patriots' reputation is already done, as evidenced on these pages. But clearly there is a lot of shady stuff going on here. Mike Kensil owes the NFL watching universe some answers, I think.

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I also find it extremely circumspect, how the narrative changes after every leak.

Examples;

Leak: 11 of 12 balls are 2 psi under regulation.

Reason given for anomaly: cold weather caused it. Every C- physics student was showing how the ball could lose up to 3 psi by game time.

Leak: All balls except one were just a tick under.

Reason given for anomoly: nothing happened except for the one ball. That ball must have been deflated by the Colts.

This is an example of the moving goal posts in this thing. All of a sudden in the middle of a physics frenzy, people abandon the idea for no reason. So which is it? Did the weather cause deflation or not?

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Totally bizarre twists these past two days. It looks like Mike Kensil is quite possibly dirty in this, and if he did set up a "sting" operation to get back at the Patriots for past frustrations, then he would have knowingly allowed the team to play with deflated balls in the first half, jeopardizing Indy's chances of advancing to the Super Bowl. Regardless of how the game turned out, if I'm one of you guys, I'm furious about that. 

 

Then Kelly Naqi (the ESPN writer who broke the story on the K-ball this week), it turns out, is connected to Kensil, as well as several other people (such as her husband) who have ties to the league office: 

 

 

Kelly Naqi is the spouse of Hussain Naqi, a former league office employee from 1998 to 2002 who has kept up his strong Park Avenue ties through his present job as an executive for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

 

Prior to working in the NFL offices, Hussain Naqi was as a paralegal for Covington & Burling, a Washington, D.C.-based law firm that has represented the NFL in different matters over the years, including the 2010 lawsuit brought by suspended Saints players in the wake of Bountygate suspensions. Former NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue is a partner at the firm.

 

More recently, Hussain Naqi worked for the New Meadowlands Stadium Company in East Rutherford, N.J. There, he served as Vice President of Business Planning and General Counsel at MetLife Stadium, the home of the Jets and Giants. Naqi would have worked closely with the league office on all the logistics for Super Bowl 48. The man in charge of “running” the Super Bowl for the NFL is its Vice President of Game Operations. He would speak to Naqi a lot. His name is Mike Kensil.

 

Just because Kelly Naqi’s spouse worked for and with the NFL for much of his career shouldn’t preclude her from reporting on the league.

 

But in a story this explosive, the lines of battle between the NFL and one of its member franchises are clearly drawn. It’s the NFL vs. The New England Patriots.

 

An investigative report from someone whose spouse has been closely aligned with the NFL for much of his professional life is going to raise suspicions that the league just keeps dropping nuggets and undermining the integrity of the process.

 

http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/curran-strong-nfl-link-recent-deflategate-leak

 

 

I honestly don't know what to believe anymore. It's disappointing because quite frankly the damage to the Patriots' reputation is already done, as evidenced on these pages. But clearly there is a lot of shady stuff going on here. Mike Kensil owes the NFL watching universe some answers, I think.

WOW!  That's a lot of stuff there.  Could be completely coincidental and innocent.  But, is there such a thing as coincidence and innocence in the NFL?  This all seems so greasy and skeezy.  I think I need a shower after reading this.....

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The ProFootball talk article makes sense.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/20/grigsons-admission-puts-kensil-under-more-scrutiny/

 

I still want to know what possessed Grigson to reach out to the NFL in the first place but you can't hate him for simply voicing a concern and the NFL didn't proactively do anything about it. He calls Kensil and expects them to take care of it, and Kensil doesn't do anything about it except just try to poorly catch them red handed without the refs or rest of NFL knowing about it.

Lol, I just read that "article", Florio's journalistic skills are flat out horrible and detract from any validity his points may have. "Grigson's stunning admission...", really that was stunning? His point about Kensil being anti-Patriot may be true, but what does he link that statement to?......Another article written by him that is pure speculation, not an independent source. I am starting to believe that a blind monkey with a key board could do as good a job.

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Lol, I just read that "article", Florio's journalistic skills are flat out horrible and detract from any validity his points may have. "Grigson's stunning admission...", really that was stunning? His point about Kensil being anti-Patriot may be true, but what does he link that statement to?......Another article written by him that is pure speculation, not an independent source. I am starting to believe that a blind monkey with a key board could do as good a job.

I think there are a lot of blind monkeys involved with this story.....

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WOW!  That's a lot of stuff there.  Could be completely coincidental and innocent.  But, is there such a thing as coincidence and innocence in the NFL?  This all seems so greasy and skeezy.  I think I need a shower after reading this.....

 

Me too... with a fire hose, lol...

 

The NFL is big business, I guess we shouldn't be surprised. 

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I also find it extremely circumspect, how the narrative changes after every leak.

Examples;

Leak: 11 of 12 balls are 2 psi under regulation.

Reason given for anomaly: cold weather caused it. Every C- physics student was showing how the ball could lose up to 3 psi by game time.

Leak: All balls except one were just a tick under.

Reason given for anomoly: nothing happened except for the one ball. That ball must have been deflated by the Colts.

This is an example of the moving goal posts in this thing. All of a sudden in the middle of a physics frenzy, people abandon the idea for no reason. So which is it? Did the weather cause deflation or not?

 

It definitely has changed. It seems like every instance where something incriminating comes out, something else follows it that turns the whole story onto its side again.

 

You mentioned the PSI on the footballs.

 

Then we had a Pats staffer ducking into a room with the game balls... only to find out that it was a bathroom, and that he was in there for 90 seconds, and that's an "elderly" man. 

 

Then there was the Kelly Naqi report, which was blown to pieces the next day by Schefter.

 

If someone is coordinating all these "leaks," that is one brilliant mastermind at work. But my guess is just that there are too many people and entities involved for it to be kept under wraps. 

 

The sad part is that the Wells report will probably end up being 100 pages of punishingly boring nothingness, lol... 

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Lol, I just read that "article", Florio's journalistic skills are flat out horrible and detract from any validity his points may have. "Grigson's stunning admission...", really that was stunning? His point about Kensil being anti-Patriot may be true, but what does he link that statement to?......Another article written by him that is pure speculation, not an independent source. I am starting to believe that a blind monkey with a key board could do as good a job.

It is stunning because it contradicts what both Blandino and Vincent said which was the league was contacted during the game by Grigson after the Colts intercepted the pass in the second quarter. If Grigson did in fact notify the league prior to the game as he claims and he has no reason to lie than this begs the question of why the league did not notify the Pats of the Colts concerns about the footballs and makes it look like a set up by the league to try to catch the Pats.

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Stop lying. I said nothing of the sort.

 

Still Trolling   enjoy your teams ill gotten gains you & your  ilk seem to enjoy drama more than your Lombardi ..

 

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It is stunning because it contradicts what both Blandino and Vincent said which was the league was contacted during the game by Grigson after the Colts intercepted the pass in the second quarter. If Grigson did in fact notify the league prior to the game as he claims and he has no reason to lie than this begs the question of why the league did not notify the Pats of the Colts concerns about the footballs and makes it look like a set up by the league to try to catch the Pats.

 

And, in the process, they allowed the Colts to be the sacrificial lambs in playing against a team for the first half that was allegedly using under-inflated footballs... all while the league was supposedly aware of it. 

 

If there's any truth to it, the NFL used the Colts as part of a sting operation based on one man's prejudices against one team.

 

(And it makes it funnier and far more ironic that the game didn't open up until the alleged deflated balls were re-inflated. Whoops!)

 

You seriously could not make this stuff up. 

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It is stunning because it contradicts what both Blandino and Vincent said which was the league was contacted during the game by Grigson after the Colts intercepted the pass in the second quarter. If Grigson did in fact notify the league prior to the game as he claims and he has no reason to lie than this begs the question of why the league did not notify the Pats of the Colts concerns about the footballs and makes it look like a set up by the league to try to catch the Pats.

I disagree that it was stunning, that very thing had already been reported, it was just not acknowledged by Grigson. Nothing stunning there at all, it is just a pretty pathetic attempt to make his article sensational/interesting.

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And, in the process, they allowed the Colts to be the sacrificial lambs in playing against a team for the first half that was allegedly using under-inflated footballs... all while the league was supposedly aware of it. 

 

If there's any truth to it, the NFL used the Colts as part of a sting operation based on one man's prejudices against one team.

 

(And it makes it funnier and far more ironic that the game didn't open up until the alleged deflated balls were re-inflated. Whoops!)

 

You seriously could not make this stuff up. 

Yeah, this is a royal mess. Makes me wonder if they never took the Colts concern seriously or if ball tampering is just something that is pretty much the norm. It is ridiculously hard to prove a team did anything without an admission or video and the only video the league has is their own guy handing an unmarked ball to our game manager because the other official was setting aside the actual game ball for sale after the game. I mean honestly, Hollywood could not come up with this stuff. Kensil really needs to say something soon as he is looking ridiculous in all this right now.

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I disagree that it was stunning, that very thing had already been reported, it was just not acknowledged by Grigson. Nothing stunning there at all, it is just a pretty pathetic attempt to make his article sensational/interesting.

Grigson confirming it hangs Troy Vincent who is VP of game operations out to dry. The admission is stunning because it reveals lying at the very top of the NFL.

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I also find it extremely circumspect, how the narrative changes after every leak.

Examples;

Leak: 11 of 12 balls are 2 psi under regulation.

Reason given for anomaly: cold weather caused it. Every C- physics student was showing how the ball could lose up to 3 psi by game time.

Leak: All balls except one were just a tick under.

Reason given for anomoly: nothing happened except for the one ball. That ball must have been deflated by the Colts.

This is an example of the moving goal posts in this thing. All of a sudden in the middle of a physics frenzy, people abandon the idea for no reason. So which is it? Did the weather cause deflation or not?

 

According to Patriot fans the weather was the culprit , on the Patriots side of the  field this was a issue while this did not occur on the Colts sidelines .

 

 

Yeah sure this makes perfect sense in Wonderland ..

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Grigson confirming it hangs Troy Vincent who is VP of game operations out to dry. The admission is stunning because it reveals lying at the very top of the NFL.

One would have to hear the full story in order to come to that conclusion, from Grigson, Vincent, Blandino and Kensil. No one has all of that information yet, that is why I will wait until I see the Wells report. My comments were all about how poor a journalist Florio is, his "articles" are short on facts and yet stuffed full of speculation and hyperbole.

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One would have to hear the full story in order to come to that conclusion, from Grigson, Vincent, Blandino and Kensil. No one has all of that information yet, that is why I will wait until I see the Wells report. My comments were all about how poor a journalist Florio is, his "articles" are short on facts and yet stuffed full of speculation and hyperbole.

Yeah, the whole thing is a mess of contradictions. I have never been a fan of Florio and any of the major sports reporters. As you say, the writing is awful and sensationalized in an effort to get it out fast.

 

Not to derail but the same is true of book authors. I can't stomach today's writers and what they submit as "writing" and story lines that are intended to shock versus actual character development and moving dialog that advances the story. Gosh, I sound old and I am not. It didn't used to be this way not that long ago.

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Gosh, I sound old and I am not. It didn't used to be this way not that long ago.

LOL, okay that is funny, mostly because I can very much relate to what you wrote.

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Yeah, the whole thing is a mess of contradictions. I have never been a fan of Florio and any of the major sports reporters. As you say, the writing is awful and sensationalized in an effort to get it out fast.

 

Not to derail but the same is true of book authors. I can't stomach today's writers and what they submit as "writing" and story lines that are intended to shock versus actual character development and moving dialog that advances the story. Gosh, I sound old and I am not. It didn't used to be this way not that long ago.

See- there's this little trip wire in life where you think you're young and then you trip the wire and you're really not young anymore.

 

Trip wire mileage may vary.   I'm still tripping........oo :)

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I didn't click your link, because I've lost count of how many times Ron Borges has been completely and totally flat-out wrong... about more things than I can remember. 

 

He is a hack.

 

He is a known Patriots hater.

 

He is also a known plagiarist, for what it's worth. The Globe "suspended" him when it happened and then he mysteriously popped up on the Herald staff after his suspension ended. I guess in some respects that makes him an "expert" at bending rules and taking shortcuts. 

 

Whatever the article says, I'm confident that it's the epitome of biased writing painting the Patriots and their fans in the most negative light possible. 

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I didn't click your link, because I've lost count of how many times Ron Borges has been completely and totally flat-out wrong... about more things than I can remember. 

 

He is a hack.

 

He is a known Patriots hater.

 

He is also a known plagiarist, for what it's worth. The Globe "suspended" him when it happened and then he mysteriously popped up on the Herald staff after his suspension ended. I guess in some respects that makes him an "expert" at bending rules and taking shortcuts. 

 

Whatever the article says, I'm confident that it's the epitome of biased writing painting the Patriots and their fans in the most negative light possible. 

 

 

God it must be terrible to be so persecuted

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I didn't click your link, because I've lost count of how many times Ron Borges has been completely and totally flat-out wrong... about more things than I can remember. 

 

He is a hack.

 

He is a known Patriots hater.

 

He is also a known plagiarist, for what it's worth. The Globe "suspended" him when it happened and then he mysteriously popped up on the Herald staff after his suspension ended. I guess in some respects that makes him an "expert" at bending rules and taking shortcuts. 

 

Whatever the article says, I'm confident that it's the epitome of biased writing painting the Patriots and their fans in the most negative light possible. 

Do yourself a favor and just read it. It's very well written.

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A great man? Because he owns a football team? Geez, join the real world sometime.

 

He's widely regarded as a great man for what he does outside of owning a football team. Like charitable and educational foundations. You know...real world stuff.

 

Stop hatin'

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Still Trolling enjoy your teams ill gotten gains you & your ilk seem to enjoy drama more than your Lombardi ..

:applause:

Personal shots are not allowed here. Stop violating the rule, please.

And believe me, Patriot fans are loving their 4th Lombardi.

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Personal shots are not allowed here. Stop violating the rule, please.

And believe me, Patriot fans are loving their 4th Lombardi.

Things have calmed down here a bit.  It's good to see.  Stop stating the rules and then trying to get a rise out of someone by a little nanananabooboo.  This is what I'm talking about.  And you are famous for it!  

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He's widely regarded as a great man for what he does outside of owning a football team. Like charitable and educational foundations. You know...real world stuff.

 

Stop hatin'

Look, the same thing can be said for Irsay when Pats fans rip him. Fault him for his addiction related incidences but he is extremely philanthropic as well. It won't change the opposite team's view of the owner despite how charitable they are.

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Things have calmed down here a bit. It's good to see. Stop stating the rules and then trying to get a rise out of someone by a little nanananabooboo. This is what I'm talking about. And you are famous for it!

Interesting how you don't scold him for doing worse.

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God it must be terrible to be so persecuted

 

LOL...

 

Man you do like pickin' fights don't you.

 

Where did I say anything about being persecuted? I said this guy is a hack. He's been in Boston as long as I can remember and has sucked at his job for the entire time. Well before Deflategate or anything else. 

 

Now it's time for you to somehow twist that all up and down and backwards and make me sound like a jerk, so... GO! 

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