Agent for Duron Carter talking with Colts

[PeterBowman]

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/10241/duron-carter

 

Vikings and Brows too.

 

Figured this will be a nice change of subject after yesterday.

[CanuckColt]

So the agent is just setting up a bidding war trying to get the most $$$.

 

The Colts are definitely in need of a WR or two...Reggie should definitely hang 'em up...Nicks should definitely be cut.

[Valpo2004]

So the agent is just setting up a bidding war trying to get the most $$$.

 

The Colts are definitely in need of a WR or two...Reggie should definitely hang 'em up...Nicks should definitely be cut.

 

Most guaranteed money is most likely what he's looking for.  Another post on rotoworld indicated that he's looking for a $100,000 signing bonus. . . that is a lot for a UDFA coming out of the CFL.

[lollygagger8]

If I'm Duron Carter, I'd be thinking.....Hmmmm......catching passes from Andrew Luck?? 

 

Or catching passes from Teddy Bridgewater or whoever the QB is next week for the Browns??

[NFLfan]

I hope my Vikes do not sign Carter. We have more pressing needs at other positions.

[Dustin]

WR is a huge need for this team. With TY being double, nobody else could get separation. 

[Jdubu]

So the agent is just setting up a bidding war trying to get the most $$$.

 

The Colts are definitely in need of a WR or two...Reggie should definitely hang 'em up...Nicks should definitely be cut.

I will give you the fact that RW should probably retire but the OC has to draw up better plays that open up receiver's. You can't tell me that the Pats have such elite wr's that they are able to get 5-10 yards of separation play after play? TY and Moncrief should have been able to catch more balls than they did but every play was hotly contested when they tried to throw. Luck missed a few plays to his guys but they just don't seem to try and scheme for getting receivers open, we try and out talent them. The NFL is full of guys close in talent, its the coaches who plan better and put the guys in better positions to succeed. Nothing points this out more than this past game. Pep wouldn't be a pimple on BB booty in devising plays for specific games played. Pep does just enough to say wow, look at this play or look at that one, this coach has vision. Then he goes on a trek of just bland regular plays and say, your the athlete, out athlete the defender. Need better than this.  

[Valpo2004]

I hope my Vikes do not sign Carter. We have more pressing needs at other positions.

 

You are worried about them signing a player for min salary?  Again he may want a large signing bonus. . . doesn't mean he's gonna get it but he's not going to get a big contract.  He's a UDFA out of the CFL.  He has to prove himself in the NFL first.  

[Indeee]

I,m thinking carter would be a good, needed sign for the Colts. Our wideouts are suddenly bleak. Reggis needs to retire, Nicks is done and moncrief still learning to run routes. If carter isn't available the Colts need to sign a wr in free agency and not waste draft picks on one. Cobb would be great in GB let him go as he can run routes and make dynamic plays after the catch

[NFLfan]

You are worried about them signing a player for min salary? Again he may want a large signing bonus. . . doesn't mean he's gonna get it but he's not going to get a big contract. He's a UDFA out of the CFL. He has to prove himself in the NFL first.

Of course I am not worried. I like the way we are building our team by not signing too many free agents from outside the organization. If we are to sign one, I want an O-lineman. Also, I am concerned that his father (who is one of my favorite Vikes) would meddle and undermine the coaching staff.

You seem to know a lot about the Iowa football team. I would not mind drafting Brandon Scherff.

[throwing BBZ]

I will give you the fact that RW should probably retire but the OC has to draw up better plays that open up receiver's. You can't tell me that the Pats have such elite wr's that they are able to get 5-10 yards of separation play after play? TY and Moncrief should have been able to catch more balls than they did but every play was hotly contested when they tried to throw. Luck missed a few plays to his guys but they just don't seem to try and scheme for getting receivers open, we try and out talent them. The NFL is full of guys close in talent, its the coaches who plan better and put the guys in better positions to succeed. Nothing points this out more than this past game. Pep wouldn't be a pimple on BB booty in devising plays for specific games played. Pep does just enough to say wow, look at this play or look at that one, this coach has vision. Then he goes on a trek of just bland regular plays and say, your the athlete, out athlete the defender. Need better than this.  

 

 Peps routes are for what Andrew wants. Andrew wants/needs open receivers running 20+ yards downfield. lol

[backshoulderfade]

Dont want to overpay for a player who could end up being camp fodder.

[TKnight24]

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/10241/duron-carter

Vikings and Brows too.

Figured this will be a nice change of subject after yesterday.

Talks that he'll probably go to the Vikings cause he wants to be a #1 WR and he wouldn't be that here. That's Hilton's role

And then with the emergence of Moncrief...... Maybe Duron would be #3 here.

[pgt_rob]

WR is a huge need for this team. With TY being double, nobody else could get separation. 

 

I agree. Is this guy it, though? We need a big, tall, physical WR that will fight for the ball. Our WR's aren't very physical at fighting for the ball. I wish we could have picked up Kelvin Benjamin.

[PrincetonTiger]

Talks that he'll probably go to the Vikings cause he wants to be a #1 WR and he wouldn't be that here. That's Hilton's role

And then with the emergence of Moncrief...... Maybe Duron would be #3 here.

He wouldn't be #1 in Minny either

[PrincetonTiger]

Dont want to overpay for a player who could end up being camp fodder.

He won't be camp fodder

[Stephen]

We need a Odell Beckham type receiver

[backshoulderfade]

He won't be camp fodder

That's not something that can even nearly garunteed.

[coltsfanatic24]

Carter would be a great signing. Wayne will most likely retire and Nicks won't be back.

[Dudley Smith]

Is this guy really that good? This has shades of Da'Rick Rogers to me. I would rather the Colts went through the draft.

[pgt_rob]

That's not something that can even nearly garunteed.

 

Yeah, I think this guy may be a headcase. I was a fan of Da'Rick Rodgers potential but this guy kinda reminds me of him. I wouldn't want to pay an unknown all of that cash just because of the hype behind him and him to do something bad off the field and get the boot.

[PrincetonTiger]

Is this guy really that good? This has shades of Da'Rick Rogers to me. I would rather the Colts went through the draft.

He is not DR

[TKnight24]

He wouldn't be #1 in Minny either

He would be. Jennings is washed up. Cordelle has been disappointing.

He'll have a better shot at being a #1 there than he would here

[dw49]

So the agent is just setting up a bidding war trying to get the most $$$.

 

The Colts are definitely in need of a WR or two...Reggie should definitely hang 'em up...Nicks should definitely be cut.

 

For the record ... Nicks is a free agent and will sign with the team that offers the best deal.

[MTC]

He's going to the Vikings.

[Flash7]

If we get Duron Carter, great. If not, who cares? How many good receivers do the Pats have? Edellman? The Pats make it to the Super Bowl whenever they have a good defense because they have BB and Brady.

 

Our defense should be priority #1. We already have the #3 offense in the league. Let's get an actual defense to pair with our offense. We have Luck. We will be fine on offense. Let's get a defense. Unless Duron Carter can rush the passer or play MLB, I don't see him having more of an impact than Nicks.

[PrincetonTiger]

He's going to the Vikings.

That could be the worse thing he does

[ProblChld32]

From everything ive heard so Far, all signs point to him coming to Indy. and with the likely retirement of Reggie he will be a nice addition to the Receiving Corps. 

[corgi]

He would be. Jennings is washed up. Cordelle has been disappointing.

He'll have a better shot at being a #1 there than he would here

If he's as good as he thinks he is, he will be a #1 wherever he goes.

[TKnight24]

If he's as good as he thinks he is, he will be a #1 wherever he goes.

indeed

Personally I'd go to the team with more weapons. I wouldn't wanna be the star of the group. People gonna look to you to show up every game, and blame you when things go wrong lol

[Superman]

I've never seen so much chatter about a futures player. Much less one who has been too lazy and undisciplined to live up to his potential.

 

I'm fine with signing him. I just don't think he's important.

[jvan1973]

Talks that he'll probably go to the Vikings cause he wants to be a #1 WR and he wouldn't be that here. That's Hilton's role

And then with the emergence of Moncrief...... Maybe Duron would be #3 here.

what emergence?

[JColts72]

At least to start with PR/KR's. Nicks needs to move on-Reggie's tank is all about empty.

[zibby43]

what emergence?

 

Dude caught a big TD in the Bengals game.  Had some big receptions in the Denver game, too.

 

He is still extremely young/green.  Every scout/GM in the league is high on Moncrief and impressed by his progression this year.

 

He was only targeted once yesterday.  T.Y. is a known commodity and he only had 1 reception yesterday.  Hard to perform when your offense barely sees the field in the AFC title game.

[jvan1973]

Dude caught a big TD in the Bengals game. Had some big receptions in the Denver game, too.

He is still extremely young/green. Every scout/GM in the league is high on Moncrief and impressed by his progression this year.

He was only targeted once yesterday. T.Y. is a known commodity and he only had 1 reception yesterday. Hard to perform when your offense barely sees the field in the AFC title game.

a few big catches doesn't equal an emergence. The kid is very good, but to say he is the clear cut #2 is very premature

[zibby43]

a few big catches doesn't equal an emergence. The kid is very good, but to say he is the clear cut #2 is very premature

 

I'm not arguing that he is a solid #2 yet.  I'm simply arguing that he has emerged as a starting WR in this league.  He was one of the best-performing rookie WRs this year. 

 

He played in all 16 games and put up these numbers:

 

Rec  Yds  Y/G  Avg  100+  TD

 32   444  27.8  13.9    2      3  

 

No, those aren't Mike Evans/Kelvin Benjamin numbers, but those 2 guys were targeted far more.  They also played a lot more snaps.

 

As far as our roster is concerned, I don't see us having a clear #2.  However, Fleener and Allen do a nice job masking that deficiency.  We were the only team in NFL history to have 2 TEs with 8+ TD receptions this season. 

[yankeeclipper]

how does Carter stack up against this year's class of WR draft eligible players?

[Jdubu]

If we get Duron Carter, great. If not, who cares? How many good receivers do the Pats have? Edellman? The Pats make it to the Super Bowl whenever they have a good defense because they have BB and Brady.

 

Our defense should be priority #1. We already have the #3 offense in the league. Let's get an actual defense to pair with our offense. We have Luck. We will be fine on offense. Let's get a defense. Unless Duron Carter can rush the passer or play MLB, I don't see him having more of an impact than Nicks.

Defense should be looked at for certain but signing a kid to a relatively cheap 3 yr contract with his body of work (however successful will be up to the scouts) in Canada and a $100,000 SB will hardly impact the teams ability to sign any defensive player or draft any defensive player in this years draft. It also will have little, if any, impact on the coming salary cap implications if he comes in and doesn't pan out. People like Landry affect our cap and affects our ability to go sign a big FA defensive guy. Trading for any RB for a first round pick is almost the dumbest thing a team can do anymore and watching Blount blow this team up proves you can get more out of a FA pick up at that spot.  

 

I am all for signing Carter and seeing if he can turn into our #2 guy or push Moncreif into that #2 spot. win/win. If he can run routes, catch balls and behave outside the confines of the field, I am all for it. If he fails at any one of those things, you really have to question bringing him in. I have not heard those 3 things being a problem for him. He didn't like school, neither did/do I but my employer accepted me anyways some 19 years ago and we are still a partner. Some things can work out, this deal for Carter isn't going to dent our Colts future decisions if he fails miserably here.

[bsteves]

This would be a big signing. Nice potential and should come cheap. We need to save our draft picks for the offensive line and the defense.

[COLTS449]

I want us to sign Carter plus draft Green Beckham. One, and most likely both are going to be beast wide outs. We would be stacked at WR. Hilton, Moncrief, Green Beckham, Carter, and Whalen.