Khaled Holmes

[kansascolt]

Can we safely say that he is our center moving forward into next season? This current unit with him at center has played just as good as any line in football.

[Danfish98]

PFF had him with an extremely low rating last week.  Not sure how given how much better the line looked but their opinion is no.  Obviously the line has given Luck more time the last 2 games than I ever remember him getting so I certainly won't complain if Holmes is the guy moving forward.  I've learned to stop trying to predict what the coaching staff will do with the line though.  Definitely not going to complain about how they've got the line playing currently though!

[backshoulderfade]

He seems to get man handled in the middle. A lot of plays he just doesn't seem to have the physicality. I will give him a pass so long as Luck is getting the protection he has been getting.

[Dustin]

Correlation /= Causation. He really hasn't played that well. Still rather have Shipley in. 

[Smonroe]

Can we safely say that he is our center moving forward into next season? This current unit with him at center has played just as good as any line in football.

 

Like Danfish said, PFF had him rated very low last week.  If you read Ben Gundy's analysis on Colts Authority, you'll see why.

 

He looked decent yesterday.  There's room for improvement at that position.  I'm not sure if it's Ship or Harrison, but it's nice to have options.

[ProblChld32]

I like what he has done so far....This line looks the best that ive seen all season pass protection wise, Would like to see more mauling to open up running lanes. 

[Coffeedrinker]

What will probably happen is Holmes will play well in the AFCC game, Colts will win and move on the the SB and the coaches will take that time to work harrison back into the starting lineup, Luck will get sacked 6 times and pressured another 10 and Grigs and Pags will say that Harrison played well but has some things to work on just like the rest of the team.

[lollygagger8]

He's light years better at center than Harrison so keep up the good work Holmes!

[Dark Superman]

Lance Louis and Reitz are the real surprises to me..

[Dark Superman]

He's light years better at center than Harrison so keep up the good work Holmes!

I agree. Give him another off-season and I think he comes back better than ever.

[billgorton]

What will probably happen is Holmes will play well in the AFCC game, Colts will win and move on the the SB and the coaches will take that time to work harrison back into the starting lineup, Luck will get sacked 6 times and pressured another 10 and Grigs and Pags will say that Harrison played well but has some things to work on just like the rest of the team.

[billgorton]

I would take that scenerio. Even a SB loss woild be huge for this franchise

[HtownColt]

Like Danfish said, PFF had him rated very low last week. If you read Ben Gundy's analysis on Colts Authority, you'll see why.

He looked decent yesterday. There's room for improvement at that position. I'm not sure if it's Ship or Harrison, but it's nice to have options.

PFF graded every lineman negatively yesterday

[Smonroe]

PFF graded every lineman negatively yesterday

 

It may be a case of the line being better as a whole than as individuals.  Which is how it's supposed to be.

 

I'll wait for Gundy, he's very thorough.  If that was a negative performance, I'll take it any day.

[HtownColt]

It may be a case of the line being better as a whole than as individuals. Which is how it's supposed to be.

I'll wait for Gundy, he's very thorough. If that was a negative performance, I'll take it any day.

I always wait for Gundy as well

[Ja'Crispy]

This current line combo clicks for some reason. I don't care about PFFs ratings. I'd much rather go with the eye test, and while Holmes may not be outstanding, they certainly have had more success with him in there. For whatever reason.

[Ja'Crispy]

PFF graded every lineman negatively yesterday

Interesting. If that performance resulted in negative grades, then give me negatives again. I was very pleased with what I saw.

[ColtStronger]

If the line is performing well, I wont complain.  He does have a lot to work on, but I'll definitely give him the benefit of the doubt.  He didn't get to play last season, and has been used only at the end of this season.  He will get better.  Now only if we can use our 1st round pick on a RG or bring a good one in via FA.  I think once Cherilus heals up, we may have a consistently good OL.  Can you say DYNASTY?

[mystrymaster]

I wonder if individually Holmes is not the best 1 on 1 but he is better at making the line calls than either of the other two so he puts the line in a better spot to succeed.

[TheJACKCOLT]

I like what he's done and seems to be very good at making the calls. he has less game experience than Shipley or Harrison, but seems to get better and more comfortable each week. I hope he is our center of the future, we can let all three work through the off season and battle it out in training camp. May the best man win.

[Bravo]

He is smart but gets roughed up every play he actually blocks somebody. A lot of the time he is not even blocking anyone to be honest...

[1959Colts]

PFF graded every lineman negatively yesterday

 

Well then, what good is PFF?

Obviously, it was a very good performance by the entire O-line. 

[BOTT]

It may be a case of the line being better as a whole than as individuals.  Which is how it's supposed to be.

 

I'll wait for Gundy, he's very thorough.  If that was a negative performance, I'll take it any day.

Or PFF leaves a lot to be desired

[BOTT]

He is smart but gets roughed up every play he actually blocks somebody. A lot of the time he is not even blocking anyone to be honest...

That's the beauty of being a center lol

[ColtsFanMikeC]

If the line is performing well, I wont complain.  He does have a lot to work on, but I'll definitely give him the benefit of the doubt.  He didn't get to play last season, and has been used only at the end of this season.  He will get better.  Now only if we can use our 1st round pick on a RG or bring a good one in via FA.  I think once Cherilus heals up, we may have a consistently good OL.  Can you say DYNASTY?

 

To be honest, I'm a little worried about Cherilus healing up.  There were major concerns about his knee issue prior to us signing him (Cherilus himself said he thinks J. Clowney who has a similar injury 'is screwed').  I think Mewhort has potential at RT, though I really like what we've gotten out of him at guard.  I'm hoping we get a few maulers on the OL this offseason and think we definitely have room for improvement across the line, though I imagine Costanzo and Mewhort are the 2 players we have who will be in place for a long time..  IMO, take the best OL available in a couple of the earlier rounds - we could use improvement and competition at all spots, but especially C, RG, and RT with some skepticism that Cherilus won't make it all the way back to his old self.  I think Holmes has potential to be a good C or RG if he can stay healthy, so would not mind one bit if we go after another C this offseason.

[Bravo]

That's the beauty of being a center lol

That is true! That's why I liked being one all through High school! You get a little break as long as you keep your head on a swivel!

[Nesjan3]

he seems to be better at guard

[indyagent17]

We will for sure select a guard in this next draft. We need someone to manhandle the right guard spot. We are one solid guard from being able to run better. So regardless of how far we go we need to look at a long term fix on the line

[sundance75]

Well then, what good is PFF?

Obviously, it was a very good performance by the entire O-line. 

No obviously it was very good performance by Luck!  He makes miraculous plays while under complete pressure

[omar]

Can we safely say that he is our center moving forward into next season? This current unit with him at center has played just as good as any line in football.

Yeah his been playing good and need year his going to be a pro bowler watch

[ThatOneColtFan]

People saying he hasn't played well? Should we be concerned about Wilfork?

[dudeski]

PFF had him with an extremely low rating last week. Not sure how given how much better the line looked but their opinion is no. Obviously the line has given Luck more time the last 2 games than I ever remember him getting so I certainly won't complain if Holmes is the guy moving forward. I've learned to stop trying to predict what the coaching staff will do with the line though. Definitely not going to complain about how they've got the line playing currently though!

pff is a joke

[jskinnz]

He seems to get man handled in the middle. A lot of plays he just doesn't seem to have the physicality. I will give him a pass so long as Luck is getting the protection he has been getting.

 

I am sure the Colts took a deep sigh of relief breath knowing that YOU are giving Holmes as pass.

 

Curious though - what happens to player and team if you decide to not give them a pass?

[dudeski]

I am sure the Colts took a deep sigh of relief breath knowing that YOU are giving Holmes as pass.

Curious though - what happens to player and team if you decide to not give them a pass?

cut or executed

[Happy2BeHere]

Luck wasn't sacked a single time yesterday. How is that a negative performance...scratching my head here.

[backshoulderfade]

I am sure the Colts took a deep sigh of relief breath knowing that YOU are giving Holmes as pass.

Curious though - what happens to player and team if you decide to not give them a pass?

Oh wow, Mr Passive-Aggressive. Congratulations on completely missing the point.

Stop being so high and mighty and assuming that I am so self important that I think people care what I think. When I say I give him a pass I mean I dont care about his performance. Nothig to do with anyone else. Fool.

[SteelCityColt]

I am sure the Colts took a deep sigh of relief breath knowing that YOU are giving Holmes as pass.

 

Curious though - what happens to player and team if you decide to not give them a pass?

 

 

Oh wow, Mr Passive-Aggressive. Congratulations on completely missing the point.

Stop being so high and mighty and assuming that I am so self important that I think people care what I think. When I say I give him a pass I mean I dont care about his performance. Nothig to do with anyone else. Fool.

 

Play nicely children...

[backshoulderfade]

Play nicely children...

But, but, but...he started it.

[SteelCityColt]

But, but, but...he started it.

 

No one likes a tittle tattle young man. 

 

Now shake hands and go back out to play. 

[hoosierhawk]

^{if the line played bad Sunday and against Cincy I hope they continue to play back. Luck hardly got touched in either game and when he has time he is deadly. Keep up the bad work OL.,}