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OK, the premise of this entire thread is Peyton not coming back.

So, if Peyton does not come back, and with Painter's rookie contract expiring after the 2012 season and with most of us not sold on him as our future backup, wouldn't it make sense to draft a backup we can develop along with the primary QB in whatever offensive system we are going to play moving forward?

If a QB with upside drops to the 5th or 6th round that we like, what is the downside of drafting the 2nd QB that late in the draft? We probably keep 3 QBs on the roster with a rookie QB starter drafted. It will also pave the way for phasing out Painter, IMO.

Thoughts??? Possible late round QB candidates that might fit the Colts system can also be discussed here.

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chad knows what I'm going to say, but I'd like everyone to know my opinion...

I think it's a good idea, if we take a QB in the 6th round. We could take Kellen Moore or the Houston QB in the 6th round. We take Luck then we take a good backup and maybe keep Painter for a year just to teach these guys. PM could be a coach too, but I THINK HE WILL COME BACK. Even if he does come back, I wouldn't be against drafting 2 QBs and getting rid of Painter + Orlovsky.

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chad knows what I'm going to say, but I'd like everyone to know my opinion...

I think it's a good idea, if we take a QB in the 6th round. We could take Kellen Moore or the Houston QB in the 6th round. We take Luck then we take a good backup and maybe keep Painter for a year just to teach these guys. PM could be a coach too, but I THINK HE WILL COME BACK. Even if he does come back, I wouldn't be against drafting 2 QBs and getting rid of Painter + Orlovsky.

-2? I think people are misunderstanding what I'm saying, I was talking to chad about this in another thread, but I still wanted to post it here, I didn't mean to tick off anyone... :(

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-2? I think people are misunderstanding what I'm saying, I was talking to chad about this in another thread, but I still wanted to post it here, I didn't mean to tick off anyone... :(

I don't think you have ticked anyone off. There is just a lot to disagree with in your premise.

The Colts will not take 2 QB's in the draft. They just won't. Not with all the holes on the roster.

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Peyton was an Iron Man. As far as I know, there were only 2 of them in the league (Manning and Favre). Going forward, we should be like every other team and have 3 QBs. Luck and 2 backups. Now, maybe 1 of them needs to be experience. I'll agree with that, but If Painter is gone after this year, then we will need to draft at least 1 more QB. I think the premise is logical.

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I don't think our other backup has to be drafted the same year we take our primary back up/ future starter, whatever. Bring in a vet, keep either Painter or Orlovsky, then take another QB in 1 or 2 years in a later round. We have too many holes and pressing needs to take Luck anyway, but we definitely can't afford to spend two picks on back up QB's.

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I don't think you have ticked anyone off. There is just a lot to disagree with in your premise.

The Colts will not take 2 QB's in the draft. They just won't. Not with all the holes on the roster.

I'm not saying they will, but Im not against the idea...

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I'm not saying they will, but Im not against the idea...

I think most of the rest of us are very much against the idea. The primary arguing point by the "we must draft Luck" people is that we'll have 6 other high picks to help fill holes on the defense, OL, WR etc...but now you want to use another one of those picks for another QB? yeah...no. Like Doogan said, if another QB needs to be drafted it can be next year or the year after.

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I think most of the rest of us are very much against the idea. The primary arguing point by the "we must draft Luck" people is that we'll have 6 other high picks to help fill holes on the defense, OL, WR etc...but now you want to use another one of those picks for another QB? yeah...no. Like Doogan said, if another QB needs to be drafted it can be next year or the year after.

I never said I wanted to, I was just saying that if it happened, I wouldn't be too upset.

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It all depends on a few things, IMO:

  1. How much of this offense are we going to retain if Peyton does not come back and if Clyde does not come back, thus making Painter just as dispensable?
  2. Are we going to trade down and stockpile a bunch of picks or are we going to get a bunch of compensatory picks for Session and Charlie Johnson (even if they are 5th & 6th rounders)? If you remember, we had 4 sixth round picks in 2008 some of which were compensatory. We did not know if we were going to cut Marvin Harrison the next year, we had Gonzo in the wings drafted in 2007 and we had drafted Addai in 2006 with Kenton Keith backing him up in 2007. I think we got Rhodes back in 2008 as well. So, with 2 out of those 4 sixth round picks, I think we drafted Garcon and Mike Hart. Garcon, probably for the upside, and Mike Hart probably because of the value.

So, in a scenario where we have enough picks to address our several holes, primarily on D, if value presents itself in the form of a QB that drops considerably to the 6th round, I can see the Colts drafting a backup QB in the draft as well that late.

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It all depends on a few things, IMO:

  1. How much of this offense are we going to retain if Peyton does not come back and if Clyde does not come back, thus making Painter just as dispensable?
  2. Are we going to trade down and stockpile a bunch of picks or are we going to get a bunch of compensatory picks for Session and Charlie Johnson (even if they are 5th & 6th rounders)? If you remember, we had 4 sixth round picks in 2008 some of which were compensatory. We did not know if we were going to cut Marvin Harrison the next year, we had Gonzo in the wings drafted in 2007 and we had drafted Addai in 2006 with Kenton Keith backing him up in 2007. I think we got Rhodes back in 2008 as well. So, with 2 out of those 4 sixth round picks, I think we drafted Garcon and Mike Hart. Garcon, probably for the upside, and Mike Hart probably because of the value.

So, in a scenario where we have enough picks to address our several holes, primarily on D, if value presents itself in the form of a QB that drops considerably to the 6th round, I can see the Colts drafting a backup QB in the draft as well that late.

This I could agree with, though honestly I think I'd still prefer to stockpile another position before QB but if we had a lot of additional picks attained through smart maneuvering, then I wouldn't be upset to spend a second pick on a QB late in the draft. However, if we stick to the 7 picks we're going to have going into the draft (not accounting for any compensatory picks because honestly I'd be surprised if we get more than one, if that) and we spent 2 picks on a QB I would be furious. Not that it really matters how I feel about who gets picked but I would consider it a colossal waste.

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Don't feel bad Andy. I +1'ed you. I don't agree with what you had to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it!

I agree with you, ReMeDy. I never give a negative rep just because I disagree with a poster's thoughts.

I save my negative rep for someone who is just being a total jerk.

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