Trade

[twfish]

Not really, it's just Vinny won't retire!

Parkey was actually pretty good. Even recovered a fumble for us

Has Vinny ever done that?

Mehhh id call Parkey alright at best. I wouldnt trust him if the game came down too It

[buccolts]

Parkey and Fluellen were never officially put on waivers. 

 

They were about to, but both teams just swapped players. 

 

I understand.

Was just illustrating that the end result seems to be O.K, Some are just annoyed by how we got there.

Assuming, of course, I'm understanding the banter correctly.

[MrNLM]

I survived the ***ALMOST WAIVED RUNNING BACK FOR AN ALMOST WAIVED KICKER TRENT RICHARDSON DONALD BROWN RYAN MATHEWS LOVE HATE PRESEASON SPECULATION EXTRAVAGANZA THREAD 2014***

 

Never Forget!

[buccolts]

I survived the ***ALMOST WAIVED RUNNING BACK FOR AN ALMOST WAIVED KICKER TRENT RICHARDSON DONALD BROWN RYAN MATHEWS LOVE HATE PRESEASON SPECULATION EXTRAVAGANZA THREAD 2014***

 

Never Forget!

 

Well, every thread is about Trent, so you can't be too surprised by that.

I think it'd be best if all posters had to have a statement in their signature proclaiming their stance on Trent.

Then also a new forum rule that Trent is forbidden to be spoken of.

Then, maybe we can all stay on topic.

[High Valyrian]

Well, every thread is about Trent, so you can't be too surprised by that.

I think it'd be best if all posters had to have a statement in their signature proclaiming their stance on Trent.

Then also a new forum rule that Trent is forbidden to be spoken of.

Then, maybe we can all stay on topic.

My stance on Trent has always been in my signature. In this case, it deals in terms of career. Your second point, your 'forum rule' is asinine. No offense, but damn.

[buccolts]

My stance on Trent has always been in my signature. In this case, it deals in terms of career. Your second point, your 'forum rule' is asinine. No offense, but damn.

 

It was pretty much tonge in cheek. Sorry you didn't catch onto that.

[High Valyrian]

It was pretty much tonge in cheek. Sorry you didn't catch onto that.

Oh, I caught onto it, smart guy. The comment was just a bit snarky and *heavy-handed and I had to call you on it. Like I said, no offense. 

[TKnight24]

⬆

[High Valyrian]

⬆

LOL...no. There's nothing wrong with discussion/criticism/disagreement. And from what I've seen TKnight24 is no stranger to any of those on this forum. 

[jvan1973]

Oh, I caught onto it, smart guy. The comment was just a bit snarky and *heavy-handed and I had to call you on it. Like I said, no offense.

Way to overreact to a joke. Well done

[TKnight24]

LOL...no. There's nothing wrong with discussion/criticism/disagreement. And from what I've seen TKnight24 is no stranger to any of those on this forum.

Pshh, I haven't the slightest understanding of where you got that wild idea from that TK24 engages in such actions

I merely spend my time on this forum drinking my apple juice my fellow fan. Excuse whoever gave you such a foolish impression that TK24 engages in such actions

[High Valyrian]

Way to overreact to a joke. Well done

Good lord. I'm not going any further in this thread. Officially blowing up my presence. Y'all are sen-si-tive.

[Malakai432]

I survived the ***ALMOST WAIVED RUNNING BACK FOR AN ALMOST WAIVED KICKER TRENT RICHARDSON DONALD BROWN RYAN MATHEWS LOVE HATE PRESEASON SPECULATION EXTRAVAGANZA THREAD 2014***

Never Forget!

Lol...........

[Superman]

He was a back up kicker to us.

 

Henery struggled last year made a career low 80% of fg's and doesn't have the leg to kick the ball into to the endzone on Kickoffs. Kelly was looking to replace him. He probably just did.

 

We should have got a 6/7th round pick instead of a player we are going to cut or made Philly wait on him until cuts.

 

I don't get it. One more guy for the training table. He missed three of Toledo's final four games with the ankle injury, which turned out to be a small fracture that wasn't discovered until a late November MRI. Over his final two college seasons, he missed a full contest or significant time in a game nine times because of injury.

 

Another player with a history of being injured we will cry curse when he goes down.

 

There are going to be healthy backs released here pretty quick. I don't get it seems like we decided to help out a team we play week 2 for nothing.

 

I don't understand.

 

We rescinded waivers on this guy. We weren't going to get a draft pick for him. He wasn't even a member of the team, as far as we were concerned, until the Eagles waived Fluellen.

 

So now, we get a guy that Grigson probably would have put in a waiver claim on, except we don't have to use our spot in the waiver order to get him. And we only had to give up a guy that we had already parted ways with, who we probably had to track down in the airport before he took his flight back home. 

 

And then, when one of those healthy backs comes available in a week or so, we'll still have our waiver spot to claim one of them, because we didn't have to use it on the injured David Fluellen.

 

Of all the moves to be critical about... this???

[Dustin]

I can not think of a more useless position aside from backup kicker. Backup LS maybe?

[Superman]

dude we traded a backup kicker. We win by default.

 

In Madden -- not that Madden matters or anything -- you can't even trade a kicker or punter. Not to mention a backup.

[Superman]

Mehhh id call Parkey alright at best. I wouldnt trust him if the game came down too It

 

Rookie Justin Tucker hit like five game winners for the Ravens in 2012. Sometimes you gotta give a guy a chance.

[twfish]

Rookie Justin Tucker hit like five game winners for the Ravens in 2012. Sometimes you gotta give a guy a chance.

I agree with giving chances. I just didnt like the way he looked at camp. Missed alot more than he made

[buccolts]

Oh, I caught onto it, smart guy. The comment was just a bit snarky and *heavy-handed and I had to call you on it. Like I said, no offense. 

 

No offense here either, and no offense taken.

Though, I don't retract.

I think the whole Trent topic has gotten old, predictable, and boring.

And there's no way to ignore it, 'cept visiting no threads.

[GoColts8818]

Well we all knew Parkey wasn't going to make the final roster so getting a guy who might have some kind of chance is a pretty good move.  Nothing to lose here.

[Superman]

I agree with giving chances. I just didnt like the way he looked at camp. Missed alot more than he made

 

Ah. I didn't see him at camp, obviously. He's been good in preseason. The only misses have been AV (his seasonal head scratchers, which you shrug off because he can still boot it from 53, with leg to spare), and then Pat's record tying attempt at the gun. And his kickoffs were good. He's got a nice leg. Can't speak for his accuracy or consistency, though.

[Superman]

Well we all knew Parkey wasn't going to make the final roster so getting a guy who might have some kind of chance is a pretty good move.  Nothing to lose here.

 

We knew for a FACT Parkey wasn't going to make the roster, because they waived him. 

 

All we did with the Eagles is circumvent the waiver process. Nothing to lose by swapping your 90th man for their 90th man, especially when you were both getting rid of your 90th man anyways.

[dw49]

We knew for a FACT Parkey wasn't going to make the roster, because they waived him. 

 

All we did with the Eagles is circumvent the waiver process. Nothing to lose by swapping your 90th man for their 90th man, especially when you were both getting rid of your 90th man anyways.

 

 

Grigson and the Eagles have obvious connections and do a lot of business. I wouldn't be surprised if Grigson wasn't just doing his old team a favor as they wanted some competition for Henry. We were dropping Parkey , so what's the harm in just letting the eagles have him even if you really don't care about the RB. 

[Superman]

Grigson and the Eagles have obvious connections and do a lot of business. I wouldn't be surprised if Grigson wasn't just doing his old team a favor as they wanted some competition for Henry. We were dropping Parkey , so what's the harm in just letting the eagles have him even if you really don't care about the RB. 

 

Maybe. I think Grigson probably had an eye on Fluellen, given the way it went down. They waived him earlier today, about an hour before the news of the trade started coming out. Grigson probably saw that they were waiving him, picked up the phone and said "scratch my back, I'll scratch yours," and then they sent the trade in. Neither team had to use their place in the waiver order.

 

Either way, it's entirely immaterial, as far as our roster is concerned. Parkey was toast, and we were able to use him to get a different player. Even if that player is toast in a few days, what difference does it make to us? Like you say, what's the harm?

[akcolt]

I don't understand.

We rescinded waivers on this guy. We weren't going to get a draft pick for him. He wasn't even a member of the team, as far as we were concerned, until the Eagles waived Fluellen.

So now, we get a guy that Grigson probably would have put in a waiver claim on, except we don't have to use our spot in the waiver order to get him. And we only had to give up a guy that we had already parted ways with, who we probably had to track down in the airport before he took his flight back home.

And then, when one of those healthy backs comes available in a week or so, we'll still have our waiver spot to claim one of them, because we didn't have to use it on the injured David Fluellen.

Of all the moves to be critical about... this???

[akcolt]

Bored no camp reports to discuss read my crazy defense theory for Bell. I had the day off everyone else was at work got in 9 holes this evening feeling better

[Superman]

Bored no camp reports to discuss read my crazy defense theory for Bell. I had the day off everyone else was at work got in 9 holes this evening feeling better

 

Glad you got to whack it around and clear your head, LOL. 

 

Yeah, just checked out the Bell thread... I don't wanna be involved. I wonder how you'll feel if he goes informant and turns in Blount (I mean, with that name...) ;)

[Warhawk]

Then, maybe we can all stay on topic.

 

I'd normally agree, but frankly, this topic kind of sucks anyway.  I would say that 6 months from now we won't remember either of these guys' names, but that's being rather generous to our memories 2 months from now.

 

I can not think of a more useless position aside from backup kicker. Backup LS maybe?

 

Syrup boy.  Like the water boy, but he's there to give cups of corn syrup to players at practice.

 

Ironically, the only guy who does less business than the syrup boy is the hotcake vendor.  Because they're not selling like... eh... you know.   :whatever:

[dw49]

Maybe. I think Grigson probably had an eye on Fluellen, given the way it went down. They waived him earlier today, about an hour before the news of the trade started coming out. Grigson probably saw that they were waiving him, picked up the phone and said "scratch my back, I'll scratch yours," and then they sent the trade in. Neither team had to use their place in the waiver order.

 

Either way, it's entirely immaterial, as far as our roster is concerned. Parkey was toast, and we were able to use him to get a different player. Even if that player is toast in a few days, what difference does it make to us? Like you say, what's the harm?

 

 

Parkey actually might have made the team if he was around when Polian was signing KO specialists back a few years. I did a little research on him and that what appears to be his forte as he led the nation with 69 touchbacks. He stats didn't really look too stellar as far as FG accuracy.

[ColtsLover4ever]

Not missing it at all

We traded a good player, for nothing

That doesn't make sense

Parkey could be a starting K but as I stated our grandpa Vinny won't hang his cleats up so no matter what K we bring in, they don't have a chance to crack our roster until Grandpa Vinny is gone

It's funny how you're the only one who doesn't get it. Let me explain in plain English. If we keep Cody, he will wind up being cut. You even said it, he won't have a chance of making the roster. So, letting him stick around a bit longer, then cutting him and getting nothing, is better? Hmmmm, seems to me at least we got a warm body that has a small chance to make the team. If you can't see the logic (like everyone else does) then I think you're drunk on fruit juice.

[twfish]

Ah. I didn't see him at camp, obviously. He's been good in preseason. The only misses have been AV (his seasonal head scratchers, which you shrug off because he can still boot it from 53, with leg to spare), and then Pat's record tying attempt at the gun. And his kickoffs were good. He's got a nice leg. Can't speak for his accuracy or consistency, though.

Lol trust me ill be the first to tell you everyone gets a chance. Like i say until the day I die, everyone gets the benefit of the doubt. Ill never dog a player I haven't seen, and ill almost never dog a player because hey they are out there not me so they must be better than me. However he just didnt impress me with his kicks. His best kick was like a 35 yarder when he about took the head off the camera man that was on the scissor lift hahaha XD

[John Dee]

actually if these guys are waived they have to clear waivers before they can get signed...     so the Eagles and Colts respectively may have never gotten the chance to claim them if another team jumped in ... 

 

thus a trade?

O.K., let me see if I have this straight.

 

Colts waive Parkey.

Eagles waive Fluellen.

Colts claim Fluellen.

Eagles claim Parkey.

Virtually, a trade.

Everyone's O.K. with that.

 

HOWEVER, if they ACTUALLY trade those two players, there's a rub?

 

Is that correct?

[buccolts]

actually if these guys are waived they have to clear waivers before they can get signed...     so the Eagles and Colts respectively may have never gotten the chance to claim them if another team jumped in ... 

 

thus a trade?

 

Oh, understood, but if things HAD fallen into place that way, it appears many would have had an issue with it.

The only complaint seems to be the it was ACTUALLY a trade. Yet the end result is the same.