Why Not Cromartie?

[Dark Superman]

Why not bring in a guy like Antonio Cromartie to help our secondary?

He's big and physical and makes a ton of plays!

Plus, Toler can never stay healthy.. Plus Greg is more suitable for the slot. Cromartie can play the outside..

[BigQandTheManiac]

Why not bring in a guy like Antonio Cromartie to help our secondary?

He's big and physical and makes a ton of plays!

Plus, Toler can never stay healthy.. Plus Greg is more suitable for the slot. Cromartie can play the outside..

yep !

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

Since we have our starting center in Costo i'd be okay with signing him to a 1 or 2 year deal.

[Dark Superman]

Agreed.

[throwing BBZ]

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[#BringBobBack]

he'd be ok more likely we bring back Vaughn though he finally had an ok year but i think cromartie would be a solid signing

[21isSuperman]

Physical?  Maybe at pressing.  But (and this may have changed since his time with the Jets) as far as I know, he can't tackle.

[bestQBever]

No way we move Toler to slot. We already have a beast there. If we get Cro, it would be Davis, Cro, Butler, the rest.

[RealityIsLuck]

He was literally Horrible last year. Like no joke, Toler < Cromartie

[corgi]

Physical?  Maybe at pressing.  But (and this may have changed since his time with the Jets) as far as I know, he can't tackle.

Yeah we already have Landry, and had Zbikowski for that.

[Derakynn]

He was also one of the worst FA CBs in the league last year. 

[jameszeigler834]

he'd be ok more likely we bring back Vaughn though he finally had an ok year but i think cromartie would be a solid signing

I hope not please no Vaughn is beyond terrible.

[#BringBobBack]

I hope not please no Vaughn is beyond terrible.

at least he was on the field didn't do much but he played ok better than toler holding the clipboard

[NJColtsFan]

If we could sign him for a 1 yr 4 mil contract I would have no more than happy with him.

[Nobody]

Cro? Physical? No he isn't. Shys away from contact, can't tackle.

[Gavin]

Would be nice to get Jamar Taylor but would never happen, was a physical corner in college, Did not see alot of action in Miami his rookie year

[Bluefire4]

Another thread about a player past his prime..

[Nobody]

Would be nice to get Jamar Taylor but would never happen, was a physical corner in college, Did not see alot of action in Miami his rookie year

Yep he ran under 4.4 as well IIRC. He was a very good man cover prospect.

[Gavin]

Another thread about a player past his prime..

He is 27

[Bluefire4]

He is 27

He has severe hip problems and was AWFUL last year.

[Rhane19]

might be too costly for us to dive in on him with still other positions we could upgrade (safety and center), but it would improve our CB depth and bring in someone who has coverage skills

[BleedBlu8792]

No need for soft corners in this defense..

[BrentMc11]

at least he was on the field didn't do much but he played ok better than toler holding the clipboard

In all honesty, Vaughn did actually turn his head toward the ball one time last year...a great improvement over past performance.    !!!

 

At least he downed the ball in the endzone on kicks....unlike David "I'm comin to join ya honey" Reed!!

 

[NJColtsFan]

He has severe hip problems and was AWFUL last year.

If that is the case then Dewayne Allen is already past his prime at the age of 24. He had an awful year due to a hip injury as well. 

[throwing BBZ]

I hope not please no Vaughn is beyond terrible.

 

More FANS who just don`t seem to follow the action very well. .

 Vaughn showed real improvement last season. He was productive in his limited backup role. It should have been obvious.

 Vaughn had 6 passes defended, the same as Bethea.

 Vaughn had 3 int. The same total as Bethea, over the last 4 seasons. !

 Vaughn had a FF  None for Bethea.

 Obviously at different positions, just a statement about the Effectiveness of one and the lack of of another. As always, JMO of course.

Too bad a FAN isn`t really watching what is going on.

[Valpo2004]

More FANS who just don`t seem to follow the action very well. .

 Vaughn showed real improvement last season. He was productive in his limited backup role. It should have been obvious.

 Vaughn had 6 passes defended, the same as Bethea.

 Vaughn had 3 int. The same total as Bethea, over the last 4 seasons. !

 Vaughn had a FF  None for Bethea.

 Obviously at different positions, just a statement about the Effectiveness of one and the lack of of another. As always, JMO of course.

Too bad a FAN isn`t really watching what is going on.

 

Number of passes defensed and interceptions are a poor way to evaluate a CB.

 

I would suggest QB rating when throwing towards his coverage as a better indicator.  

 

I have no idea what that is, I'm just saying that you can't use passes defensed and int's to evaluate a CB.  

[throwing BBZ]

Number of passes defensed and interceptions are a poor way to evaluate a CB.

 

I would suggest QB rating when throwing towards his coverage as a better indicator.  

 

I have no idea what that is, I'm just saying that you can't use passes defensed and int's to evaluate a CB.  

 

 Actually you have to use those stats to evaluate a CB. Clearly the tape, scheme and the talent surrounding give the best story.

 I have watched Bethea for years and those stats did truly reflect how weak he was in coverage.

 And i watched Vaughn and would be glad to have him back, rather than HE IS AWFUL. I highly doubt a Rookie would come in and play as well, and believe he still has upside.

[Bluefire4]

If that is the case then Dewayne Allen is already past his prime at the age of 24. He had an awful year due to a hip injury as well.

No DWAYNE Allen didn't play last year because of his hip. Cromartie recovered and still sucked the whole season. There is a reason why he's still on the market and will get a low deal before the age of 30.

[#BringBobBack]

In all honesty, Vaughn did actually turn his head toward the ball one time last year...a great improvement over past performance.    !!!

 

At least he downed the ball in the endzone on kicks....unlike David "I'm comin to join ya honey" Reed!!

 

nice one that was funny

[NJColtsFan]

No DWAYNE Allen didn't play last year because of his hip. Cromartie recovered and still sucked the whole season. There is a reason why he's still on the market and will get a low deal before the age of 30.

First off the hip injury occurred during the season so he probably never did recover until after the season. Second if he waits less than a month he can get a low deal after the age of 30! Fun for him. But really we have enough cap space to sign him to a one year incentive laden contract. If he performs well then great but if not we only lose a couple mil and carry that cap space over to next year. He will be the number two CB here matched up against number two WRs which that alone should cause him to have a better season.

[NJColtsFan]

Breaking News! Cromartie just signed with the Cardinals so it does not matter what we think about him.

[BrentMc11]

nice one that was funny

 Thank you Nick!

[Dark Superman]

He has severe hip problems and was AWFUL last year.

Put him in a good organization with solid coaching and pass rush..

Things can change.

[Jason_]

More FANS who just don`t seem to follow the action very well. .

 Vaughn showed real improvement last season. He was productive in his limited backup role. It should have been obvious.

 Vaughn had 6 passes defended, the same as Bethea.

 Vaughn had 3 int. The same total as Bethea, over the last 4 seasons. !

 Vaughn had a FF  None for Bethea.

 Obviously at different positions, just a statement about the Effectiveness of one and the lack of of another. As always, JMO of course.

Too bad a FAN isn`t really watching what is going on.

 

 

The defense went from good to horrible when Toler went down and Vaughn had to take over at #2 CB.  The defense continued to be horrible over a ~5 game span while Vaughn was still in that role.  Once Vaughn was benched and Butler/Gordy took over at #2, the defense played considerably better.  That tells me pretty much what I need to know about Vaughn.  I really hope he is not brought back.

[Dustin]

More FANS who just don`t seem to follow the action very well. .

Vaughn showed real improvement last season. He was productive in his limited backup role. It should have been obvious.

Vaughn had 6 passes defended, the same as Bethea.

Vaughn had 3 int. The same total as Bethea, over the last 4 seasons. !

Vaughn had a FF None for Bethea.

Obviously at different positions, just a statement about the Effectiveness of one and the lack of of another. As always, JMO of course.

Too bad a FAN isn`t really watching what is going on.

Vaughn is bad. Juding DBs by ball plays exclusively is laughable.

[NewColtsFan]

More FANS who just don`t seem to follow the action very well. .

 Vaughn showed real improvement last season. He was productive in his limited backup role. It should have been obvious.

 Vaughn had 6 passes defended, the same as Bethea.

 Vaughn had 3 int. The same total as Bethea, over the last 4 seasons. !

 Vaughn had a FF  None for Bethea.

 Obviously at different positions, just a statement about the Effectiveness of one and the lack of of another. As always, JMO of course.

Too bad a FAN isn`t really watching what is going on.

 

Sorry.....   but once fans here decide someone is terrible,  then it's official -- they're terrible!

 

Doesn't matter how many times they're wrong,  they're fans and they know better!

 

If we had a better eye rolling emoticon,  I'd use it....

 

But for now,  your good post will have to do....   

[IndyScribe]

Cromartie got signed by the Cardinals.