Scott Pioli

[krunk]

Man I don't want to hear anything about any Scott Pioli.  I think Grigson is doing a stand up job pulling talent for this team from everywhere but the moon.I don't want anybody else but Grigs, let the man finish his job.  Did they have any other GM consultant consulting Pioli when he was in New England or KC?  No, they let the man finish his job.

 

I think what we need to do is let our young GM finish his work, and stop trying to quietly neuter him by replacing his approach and his style with somebody elses mindset. I'm not trying to be hard or abrasive, but I feel like the OP is trying to say in a quiet way lets get rid of Grigs and replace him with Pioli. Citing things like "Grigs is a little too trigger happy"  is a way of saying "this guy doesn't really know what he is doing so let's bring in someone else to show him what to do". Almost anyone can see that this team is much better talent wise than what we had last year.  Come next year(heck we may even make it to the dance with the group we have now) everybody and their momma will be hailing the Colts for the Super Bowl and the personnel side of things will be to Grigs credit.  

 

Already trying to replace the man after one half of 2 winning seasons. Come on now!

[Gavin]

Man I don't want to hear anything about any Scott Pioli.  I think Grigson is doing a stand up job pulling talent for this team from everywhere but the moon.I don't want anybody else but Grigs, let the man finish his job.  Did they have any other GM consultant consulting Pioli when he was in New England or KC?  No, they let the man finish his job.

 

I think what we need to do is let our young GM finish his work, and stop trying to quietly neuter him by replacing his approach and his style with somebody elses mindset. I'm not trying to be hard or abrasive, but I feel like the OP is trying to say in a quiet way lets get rid of Grigs and replace him with Pioli. If I misread the OP then please forgive me.  Come next year everybody and their momma will be hailing the Colts for the Super Bowl and the personnel side of things will be to Grigs credit.  Already trying to replace the man after one half of 2 winning seasons. Come on now!

Speaking on just my outside perspective i think Grigson has done a pretty good job, Not great, I certainly think he should have done some things differently but where I would like him to get a little help is an advisor of sorts on player contracts...someone that could just give him advice without actually making the decision is the player contract side of NFL

[krunk]

Speaking on just my outside perspective i think Grigson has done a pretty good job, Not great, I certainly think he should have done some things differently but where I would like him to get a little help is an advisor of sorts on player contracts...someone that could just give him advice without actually making the decision is the player contract side of NFL

 

Sounds reasonable.  I'm not too strong in the player contract area myself, but I've seen Superman do some good breakdowns on the issue. Didn't seem too bad to me, but it all depends on how you are assessing the players value and production. Some players that you feel are just "Meh" are worth a bit more to me. And others that you think are living up to what was paid I may see as "Meh".  All in all I think he paid higher monies in the FA period because ultimately you do have to shell out some coin to get who you want in FA.  What I do like is he signed multiple people instead of shelling out huge contracts on 2 guys..  

 

I for one think Walden has done a pretty okay job. I think Cherilus has been pretty good. I think Aubrayo Franklin has been serviceable. I think Donald Thomas was trending in the right direction before the injury. Landry has been a good pickup, although I think we could get more from him in the passing game.  Toler I've been kind of so so on, at times I think he's pretty solid but then other times I'm wondering why the dude is getting burnt quite a bit. I think we've gotten some good things out of Jean Francois but it could be better.  The DHB signing was HOT GARBAGE but who in the heck was left at that point when we did sign him? I love the fact that he was savvy enough to bring in Darick Rogers when the opportunity arose. That's how you make up for that mistake.  The Trent Richardson trade I'm not sure where that is going to go to be quite honest.

[MrNLM]

How about NO, Scott!

 

Grigs is doing just fine! Might I point out that there was not much complaining when Grigs worked his magic with his first offseason. We were OK with him bringing in players to turn this team around from its 2-14 season. His talent scouting was just what we needed and now it seems that some fans standards are too high to allow him to do so again with free agents/trade acquisitions that now expect more out of the organization since we are not the 2-14 team we used to be.

 

Some players have not panned out but, guess what... I am not seeing any contracts that are gonna drag us down.

 

DHB. Gone!

Bradshaw. Optional!(maybe another 'show me' contract)

Franklin: Optional!

Gordy. Who cares!

Linkenback. Could find better!

McGlynn. Could find better!

 

The list is getting worse so I will stop there. How freaking easy would it be for Grigs to replace THAT! We are gonna be fine!

[Valpo2004]

Trust someone who watched every game he played in KC:

 

Matt Cassel was hot garbage.  The ONE season he looked competent was in 2010, a season in which we played a strength of schedule around .390.  Not kidding.  And even then he only threw for 3100 yards.

 

Cassel played 51 games in KC, and threw for under 200 yards TWENTY FOUR times. 

 

He threw for under 100 yards SEVEN times.  That's almost impossible in today's NFL where the rules are slanted towards the offense.

 

He had a whopping FOUR games over 300 yards in four years.

 

The guy was trash.

 

Not that I disagree with you about Cassel, but I don't think yardage totals are the best way to analyse QB play.  

 

Havn't the Colts won a couple of different games where Andrew Luck threw for under 200 yards?

[Dark Superman]

I'm not sure if this is possible, but do you guys think we should look at bringing in Pioli as a consultant of some sort?  His eye for football talent is unreal.  He was parts of the Ravens organization when they took Ogden and Lewis in the draft.  We all know the team he helped build in New England and the talent they had there.  Then he went to KC and was able to get guys like Jamaal Charles, Eric Berry, Jon Asamoah, Tony Moeaki, Dexter McCluster, and Justin Houston.  Other than not getting a solid QB and head coach, that team was loaded.  Give them Alex Smith and Andy Reid and they became one of the league's best teams.  Pioli's eye for talent is incredible. 

 

Not only that, but Grigson is pretty young at 41.  I also think Grigs is a little too trigger-happy when it comes to free agency.  Perhaps Pioli can act as a guide to help Grigs learn and help us acquire talent.  Of course, what we say has no bearing on what actually happens.  But I think Pioli would be a great addition to the team.  Thoughts?

Is Piolo currently employed?

[21isSuperman]

Is Piolo currently employed?

I believe he is an analyst for NBC Sports or Sunday Night Football or something of that nature

[Dark Superman]

I believe he is an analyst for NBC Sports or Sunday Night Football or something of that nature

Well I agree with you.. I wouldn't mind if we brought him in.

[csmopar]

Man I don't want to hear anything about any Scott Pioli. I think Grigson is doing a stand up job pulling talent for this team from everywhere but the moon.I don't want anybody else but Grigs, let the man finish his job. Did they have any other GM consultant consulting Pioli when he was in New England or KC? No, they let the man finish his job.

I think what we need to do is let our young GM finish his work, and stop trying to quietly neuter him by replacing his approach and his style with somebody elses mindset. I'm not trying to be hard or abrasive, but I feel like the OP is trying to say in a quiet way lets get rid of Grigs and replace him with Pioli. Citing things like "Grigs is a little too trigger happy" is a way of saying "this guy doesn't really know what he is doing so let's bring in someone else to show him what to do". Almost anyone can see that this team is much better talent wise than what we had last year. Come next year(heck we may even make it to the dance with the group we have now) everybody and their momma will be hailing the Colts for the Super Bowl and the personnel side of things will be to Grigs credit.

Already trying to replace the man after one half of 2 winning seasons. Come on now!

My thoughts exactly. While my support and faith of Pagano has admittedly decreased post bye week, I still support Grigs and the rest of our staff. Pagano isn't bad but more inexperienced and somewhat stubborn. I think with some time, he's gonna do just fine. Grigs I trust completely and I love his aggressive style. Now when you're aggressive the chances some mistakes happen increase but the return is worth the risk.