WR Griff Whalen elevated to 53-Man Roster, CB Jalil Brown waived

[Stephen]

Prime Example: The interception Andrew Luck threw against the Dolphins this year. Griff Whalen WIDE OPEN running a drag route across the middle, Andrew throws it up to Reggie Wayne smh

Having a HOF WR on your team has it's pros & cons I tell you

or the Texans game when whalen ran a wheel route and was wide open in back of endzone but luck didn't see him.

[Thewholefnshow28]

My guess is Brazil will not be playing which is a disappointment. I have not seen much that has made me think Whalen is anything more than a warm body. Hopefully Brazil can heal quickly and we can send Whalen back down.

[Warhawk]

So is Griff Whalen. Arguing over which dumpster fire stinks less is largely pointless, but if you have to take one, at least make it the one that can be disguised as something other than a dumpster fire for a play or two.

Personally, if we're working under the assumption that both of them are dumpster fires, I'd take the dumpster fire that's making league minimum over the dumpster fire that counts 2.5 mil against the cap.

[CanuckColt]

Yea that's right, they better triple Rogers. That guy is a beast. He's the 2nd coming of Jerry Rice.

Not really like Rice...more like T.O., hopefully minus the 'tude.

[SkyBane]

Personally, if we're working under the assumption that both of them are dumpster fires, I'd take the dumpster fire that's making league minimum over the dumpster fire that counts 2.5 mil against the cap.

Bey's contract was a one year deal at a very meager cost, making cutting him utterly pointless from a salary cap standpoint, especially when most of it has already been paid and cutting him wouldnt remove that from the cap this year. You do realize this, right?

[ColtsLegacy]

Bey's contract was a one year deal at a very meager cost, making cutting him utterly pointless from a salary cap standpoint, especially when most of it has already been paid and cutting him wouldnt remove that from the cap this year. You do realize this, right?

Considering his production, I doubt Irsay thinks the cost was all that "meager".

[CanuckColt]

We have some nice WRs and ONE promising beast in Rogers...but Hilton is a #2 at best and easily shut down, Brazill had one good game but is unproven and MAY be injury-prone, Reggie is getting up there in years and won't play much longer, Whalen is a career fill-in.

Grigson will just have to go out and get his associate Jeremy Maclin (25 y/o;born May 11) who he had a hand in drafting...and called him the best WR in that draft class. He is a #1 talent and can step in and play the 'Reggie' role for the Colts for years to come.

...also saves us a draft pick for the D.

[Gavin]

I'd figure I would bring a little more perspective  to this Whalen-DHB debate:

 

DHB-11 starts....13 games played.....29 catches 309 yards 2 TD's 10.7 yards per catch

 

Whalen-6 games....0 starts.... 9 catches 102 yards 11.3 yards per catch but 0 TD's

 

 

Now obviously Whalen does not bring the measurables that DHB does......But those measurables dont mean a thing if you dont know the basics of catching a football, Im not campaigning  for either because I think upgrades can be had in the offseason over them...and will.......But Im sick and tired of watching DHB sent out there with all his potential with this being his 5th year in the league only to watch him not be able to perform the most fundamental act of his position and thats catch the freakin football

[ConBro]

Prime Example: The interception Andrew Luck threw against the Dolphins this year. Griff Whalen WIDE OPEN running a drag route across the middle, Andrew throws it up to Reggie Wayne smh

Having a HOF WR on your team has it's pros & cons I tell you

* Brent Grimes. Gahhhhh

[Narcosys]

Numerous is a stretch. But hey we'll see this week. Wayne is out and Luck didn't have any problems getting it to Rogers and Brazill last week.

not a stretch at all.  If you go back and watch all the games he has played in like I did, you will see that against the Texans (his most targets) he had tons of times when he was separated but not targeted.  He was also open a lot in the Tennessee game and St. Louis game.  I literally have already posted about this exact same thing and broke down every single one of his snaps and targets, most of which were very poorly thrown by Andrew Luck.

[Stephen]

I'd figure I would bring a little more perspective  to this Whalen-DHB debate:

 

DHB-11 starts....13 games played.....29 catches 309 yards 2 TD's 10.7 yards per catch

 

Whalen-6 games....0 starts.... 9 catches 102 yards 11.3 yards per catch but 0 TD's

 

 

Now obviously Whalen does not bring the measurables that DHB does......But those measurables dont mean a thing if you dont know the basics of catching a football, Im not campaigning  for either because I think upgrades can be had in the offseason over them...and will.......But Im sick and tired of watching DHB sent out there with all his potential with this being his 5th year in the league only to watch him not be able to perform the most fundamental act of his position and thats catch the freakin football

I thought dhb only had 1 td

[ColtJ82]

DHB is not better than Griff Whalen. DHB isn't better than any of the forum members kids. He's garbage

DHB is better at getting separation........but what's the point since he can't catch once open. Whalen can catch the ball, but really struggles getting separation. The one thing about DHB is that he can actually block.

[Guest TeamLoloJones]

I thought dhb only had 1 td

You thought right.

[presto123]

 Whalen probably feels like you feel when you have one of those girlfriends that dumps you and keeps calling you and stringing you along.

[dudeski]

Whalen probably feels like you feel when you have one of those girlfriends that dumps you and keeps calling you and stringing you along.

that has never happened to anyone here. Must only be you.

[IndyFan93]

Wow I didn't know everyone thought Whalen was that bad. From what little I saw from him I thought he was a pretty average WR, but definitely an upgrade over DHB. He seemed to have pretty good hands, and was able to pick up a few first downs. Like others have said there was several times that he was wide open and Luck just never seen him. I don't think he would ever be spectacular but I would take him over DHB any day.

[GoColts8818]

Wow I didn't know everyone thought Whalen was that bad. From what little I saw from him I thought he was a pretty average WR, but definitely an upgrade over DHB. He seemed to have pretty good hands, and was able to pick up a few first downs. Like others have said there was several times that he was wide open and Luck just never seen him. I don't think he would ever be spectacular but I would take him over DHB any day.

I don't think he's bad.  I don't think he has the speed to be anything special in the NFL but with the shape the Colts are in at WR right now though he's an end of the roster type of guy.  Maybe we can surgically give DHB's his hands?

[krunk]

I was thinking about Chris Owusu as a quick replacement for DHB, or to be used as another player behind Brazil but I see he is on the active roster for Tampa Bay.  Owusu runs 4.3 I believe and has better hands than DHB, plus he knows Peps system.  I was unsure if he was still available, but it looks like not.

[Superman]

I was thinking about Chris Owusu as a quick replacement for DHB, or to be used as another player behind Brazil but I see he is on the active roster for Tampa Bay.  Owusu runs 4.3 I believe and has better hands than DHB, plus he knows Peps system.  I was unsure if he was still available, but it looks like not.

 

Very physical receiver, nice size, fast, but not a good route runner, and questionable hands. On top of that, he has some serious concussion and injury issues that threatened his career. I wouldn't be interested, overall.

[krunk]

Very physical receiver, nice size, fast, but not a good route runner, and questionable hands. On top of that, he has some serious concussion and injury issues that threatened his career. I wouldn't be interested, overall.

 

 

I'm speaking about for this last couple of games and into the playoffs.  Not necessarily a long term solution.

I think he would have been a decent fit for what we've got going on right now.  I'm uneducated as far as his

injury and concussion issues.  But I have noticed Luck rarely hangs you out to dry so it could possibly be

less of a risk.  I was just speculating on Owusu a bit.  

 

If he was available I'd add him in a heart beat to the practice squad(if possible) and get rid of Josh Lenz.  We could of maybe had Owusu(if he was available) and Whalen on the practice squad providing depth for Rogers/DHB and Brazil.  

[dudeski]

I was thinking about Chris Owusu as a quick replacement for DHB, or to be used as another player behind Brazil but I see he is on the active roster for Tampa Bay. Owusu runs 4.3 I believe and has better hands than DHB, plus he knows Peps system. I was unsure if he was still available, but it looks like not.

is he a Stanford kid? If so then absolutely not

[krunk]

is he a Stanford kid? If so then absolutely not

 

Is Luck not a "Stanford Kid"?  What point are you trying to make?  He would certainly be up to speed with offense, and he played with Luck but it's a mute point now because he's already on the active roster for Tampa Bay.  I'd take a Stanford kid at this point in the season when you look at what kind of time it would take to bring in anyone else and get them up to speed with the offense.

[GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE]

Really not a big fan of getting stanford guys soley for continuity with pep and luck. ... with that being v said they have serious talent this year. .. ty Montgomery and Gaffney are legit playmakers... Also Shane skov (who I think we should target) on the other side of the ball

[MaoBerry]

Not a big fan of the stanford cardinal (yes, it's not cardinals), because they're looking quite soft and wimpy at the pro level (luck being the exception). However, coby has made strides this year. I'll pass on any other cardinal, including the much talked about SKOV.

[dudeski]

Is Luck not a "Stanford Kid"? What point are you trying to make? He would certainly be up to speed with offense, and he played with Luck but it's a mute point now because he's already on the active roster for Tampa Bay. I'd take a Stanford kid at this point in the season when you look at what kind of time it would take to bring in anyone else and get them up to speed with the offense.

because ever since we drafted luck, fans are constantly wanting to bring in every average player Stanford puts out. It annoys me

[TKnight24]

Not a big fan of the stanford cardinal (yes, it's not cardinals), because they're looking quite soft and wimpy at the pro level (luck being the exception). However, coby has made strides this year. I'll pass on any other cardinal, including the much talked about SKOV.

Richard Sherman is soft & wimpy?

[MaoBerry]

Richard Sherman is soft & wimpy?

 

 

No, but he's JUICED UP, so i don't even consider him.

[TKnight24]

No, but he's JUICED UP, so i don't even consider him.

He's "juiced up"? Really?

Please explain

[MaoBerry]

He's "juiced up"? Really?

Please explain

 

 

He's been busted before...nothing new.

[MaoBerry]

He's "juiced up"? Really?

Please explain

 

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/11/richard-sherman-seahawks-ped-problem_n_3423410.html

[TKnight24]

He's been busted before...nothing new.

Adderall isn't being "juiced up". Steroids would be considered juicing.

And he's been clean since the successful appeal & has become the BEST CB in the NFL

[MaoBerry]

Adderall isn't being "juiced up". Steroids would be considered juicing.

And he's been clean since the successful appeal & has become the BEST CB in the NFL

 

 

Yes, of course he has.

[#87WayneFanHe'sTheMan]

I'd figure I would bring a little more perspective  to this Whalen-DHB debate:

 

DHB-11 starts....13 games played.....29 catches 309 yards 2 TD's 10.7 yards per catch

 

Whalen-6 games....0 starts.... 9 catches 102 yards 11.3 yards per catch but 0 TD's

 

 

Now obviously Whalen does not bring the measurables that DHB does......But those measurables dont mean a thing if you dont know the basics of catching a football, Im not campaigning  for either because I think upgrades can be had in the offseason over them...and will.......But Im sick and tired of watching DHB sent out there with all his potential with this being his 5th year in the league only to watch him not be able to perform the most fundamental act of his position and thats catch the freakin football

 

Good info.  All these people sayin Whalen drops as many as DHB. Well Whalen hasn't played nearly as much, if he is still dropping a lot by the end of the year then maybe you can say he is as bad as DHB with drops. As of right now though he has played in a lot less games and hasn't started any. So anyone sayin Whalen is as bad as DHB is judging without enough of a sampling of Whalen.