Jump to content
Indianapolis Colts

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

number28

Caldwell/coaching (Merge)

Recommended Posts

Caldwell and the FO are to blame....The FO should have had a serious plan for Manning not playing....As for Caldwell, you're an NFL coach and you just go through the motions....He doesn't even attempt to look like he wants to win.....

Exactly,to put so much success of a team on one player{even a great one}is risky.What exactly do we give polian credit for then?I could have drafted Peyton.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's time to admit that Manning made pro bowlers out of most of the pro bowlers on the team on both sides of the ball. Most of these players would not have been pro bowlers without Manning as you can see now. All of a sudden we have no pro bowlers on the team.

i agree as of right now we dont. manning made these guys who they are. it doesnt help by making freeney run 50 yards every play to get ot the qb either

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

lol yea i didnt know 62 points was possible

I hate to admit it but I feel asleep/paased out with 5 mins to and the 62 points and come with

out even 1 freaking stop. does anyone know if we ever made them punt. to me that is the most embarrassing

part of this. My lord even IU made wisconsin punt a few times. How someone on 56th st has not been fired today

is a joke. O by the way I thought Peyton was going to suit up he looked humiliated, fire is burning in him for sure.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

D coord has WHAT to work with?You could have BB as D coord and still have a pourous D considering the lack of talent there.

Apparently thats what happens when you let decent players walk on free agency and waivers. Polian must like scab players that were 3rd string players from college or cut from one of the other teams because they sucked. Well thats what we're working with for sure. A coaching and front office mentality that wouldn't work anywheres.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have been off the forum for a week and should have stayed off longer. I have said before, Caldwell will not be fired mid-season! The fact that we have 4-5 pro bowl caliber players does not make up for an offensive line decimated by injuries, a quarterback who would be marginal behind an all pro offensive line, but panics at the snap of the ball because he is justifiably afraid for his life, a defensive backfield made up of children, an interior defensive line that could be pushed around by a high school offensive line. Coaching can only make up a little for lack of talent, particularly lack of talent in the trenches.

As to whether or not his is fired after the season, we will have to wait and see. I have watched professional football and know what can be fixed by coaching and what is just lack of talent. This is also the last time I respond to a "fire Caldwell" thread. Those of you that really think you know how to coach profootball, break out your Madden and have at it

I mean really? After a 62-7 loss you don't even think Caldwell had some of play in this? I mean really. Did you watch the game yesterday?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Maybe Caldwell would be willing to coach the Colt's Bowling League? I mean, the guy has to be good at something? Right?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Caldwell on the hot seat. Did anyone see this on ESPN? I seen it, but couldn't hear the volume. Does anyone know what they said.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ultimately the Coaching staff and the FO are responsible for getting the team ready to play. The team that I saw last night was not ready to play.

I have been a Colts fan for 40 years and that my friends was the worst I have seen. Those players were not prepared for the Saints.

That falls on the coaching staff and the Polians's.............. Horrible Horrible Horrible

I hope next week gets better.......................Has anyone seen Jeff Fisher?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Has anyone mentioned Caldwell sending out Matt Stover, the geezer with no range left in his kicking leg, to kick a 51 yd FG in the SB as being a stupid move ? Seriously I was yelling at the tv that night when he sent him out there.

Yes I have...frequently...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Caldwell on the hot seat. Did anyone see this on ESPN? I seen it, but couldn't hear the volume. Does anyone know what they said.

Sure, analysts will say he is just to have something to talk about, but as a Colts fan, you should know better.

Caldwell isn't going anywhere.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sure, analysts will say he is just to have something to talk about, but as a Colts fan, you should know better.

Caldwell isn't going anywhere.

That's why I started a thread that this is similar to the Pacers situation.(only got one reply)We are stuck until we hit even more of a rock bottom than we have.(if that's possible) Pacer fans knew long before O'Brien was fired that he needed to go but Bird held on to the stubborn end. I see a similar situation here. We may have to go 0-16 with many more blowouts for something to get done. But I want Polian gone too. I think as long as Bill is here he is not going to budge from that smaller, faster defensive philosophy that plain just has not worked.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Someone needs to design a "Fire Jim!" logo, similar to the "Suck for Luck" design.

OK, i am not a web master, but if i were ,I would have a puppet hanging from a string with scissors snipping the strings, with a caption saying,CUT THE CALD. sorry best i could do.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

OK, i am not a web master, but if i were ,I would have a puppet hanging from a string with scissors snipping the strings, with a caption saying,CUT THE CALD. sorry best i could do.

I'm fond of my Farewell Tour i guess you would call it a poster... Would look good on a t-shirt.

317791_262702633775136_155110744534326_854029_939538722_n.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Right, except Painter has proven he is a more than capable backup. In fact, I think the guy could be pretty good given the chance. I am sure if Painter was in Cassel's shoes several years ago in New England he would have a similar record as Cassel.

Painter IS NOT a capable backup!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Caldwell on the hot seat. Did anyone see this on ESPN? I seen it, but couldn't hear the volume. Does anyone know what they said.

Adam La Canfora talked about Caldwell definitely being on the hot seat on Monday Night Countdown. And both Keyshawn and Ditka tore the FO and coaching staff a new one. The word "pathetic" was used multiple times.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yep and Enron is going to be the best stock in 2011.

I thought Enron was shut down? How can they be the best stock in 2011 if you can't by it?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I thought Enron was shut down? How can they be the best stock in 2011 if you can't by it?

The same way Jim Caldwell is going to coach top notch football from here on out.

It's not happening! One has much of a chance of happening as the other and one is impossible.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

But it would make too much SENSE to fire him!

Therefore, I call shenanegeans. (Sp?)

Next we'll be hearing the ST unit has been overhauled, Polian has been chased out of Indianapolis by rabid Doberman pinschers with bees in their mouths, and the Tampa 2 is being abolished in all 50 states.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Maybe this has been stated in other posts, and if so, it is reiterated here. There is just too much talent on this team for one guy (Manning) to have such a drastic effect. Caldwell is a good coach. He's not the best. I believe Caldwell rode the wings of Manning's leadership and abilities, which ultimately guided the team. As Manning is not in that leadership capacity at the moment from being off the field, Caldwell has not stepped in (thus wasn't there in the beginning) nor has he met the expectations of fans and seemingly, the team.

Anyone remember Brady leaving the season from a leg injury on the frist game? Did the Patriots crumble? NO!! They had a coach that stayed with the team and COACHED them to a winning season, albeit it wasn't a playoff one.

I am not just a Manning fan. I am Colts fan. I want the best for the team and it hurts to watch them play, unguided. Actually, it ticks me off when I see them play. Can this all be blamed on the coach? Probably not, but that's who is at the top of this pyramid.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Meh, at this point I don't really care what they do. I don't know enough about the technicals to have much say here.

My only question is, if we do dump Caldwell and Co., who will replace them? Tressel, Gruden, Cowher(sp?), etc.? We don't want to get rid of a coach only to take another step back.

Keep Caldwell for now until we can get an upgrade...

... which can't be too hard at this point.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Meh, at this point I don't really care what they do. I don't know enough about the technicals to have much say here.

My only question is, if we do dump Caldwell and Co., who will replace them? Tressel, Gruden, Cowher(sp?), etc.? We don't want to get rid of a coach only to take another step back.

Keep Caldwell for now until we can get an upgrade...

... which can't be too hard at this point.

Gruden is out. He signed an exclusive agreement with ESPN last week or so. I guess that he got nominated for Emmy or two.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Gruden is out. He signed an exclusive agreement with ESPN last week or so. I guess that he got nominated for Emmy or two.

No he didn't. He can get out to take a coaching job at any time he wishes.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Gruden is out. He signed an exclusive agreement with ESPN last week or so. I guess that he got nominated for Emmy or two.

Yeah, like I said, I don't know enough about it! :clap:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No he didn't. He can get out to take a coaching job at any time he wishes.

Big news in broadcasting today as ESPN announced it has signed MNF analyst Jon Gruden to a five year "exclusive" deal that will keep him out of coaching and off the sidelines for the length of the deal. The deal starts in 2012, so that means you'll be hearing "THIS GUY" through the 2016 season

http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2011-articles/october/jon-gruden-signs-five-year-exclusive-mnf-extension.html

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

i haven't liked caldwell for a while, but the coaching job done this year is absolutely terrible. there is way too much talent on this team to be as bad as they have been this year. you can add coaches to the list of wr's and o-lineman that manning makes look much better than they really are.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The same way Jim Caldwell is going to coach top notch football from here on out.

It's not happening! One has much of a chance of happening as the other and one is impossible.

That doesn't make any sense though if Enron has been shut down... Oh well, Jim Caldwell is gonna start coaching some great football, I can feel it!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That doesn't make any sense though if Enron has been shut down... Oh well, Jim Caldwell is gonna start coaching some great football, I can feel it!

Obviously that went right over your heard. My apologies..

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Big news in broadcasting today as ESPN announced it has signed MNF analyst Jon Gruden to a five year "exclusive" deal that will keep him out of coaching and off the sidelines for the length of the deal. The deal starts in 2012, so that means you'll be hearing "THIS GUY" through the 2016 season

http://www.awfulanno...-extension.html

ESPN clearly intends for this announcement to insinuate that Gruden will not be returning to coaching. Monday Night Football PR guy Bill Hoffheimer

tweeted "Cross this guy off coaching candidate list for 2012" with a link to the news.

However, as Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio speculates, ESPN has declined to release terms of the contract, which makes it tough to tell how punitive the exclusivity clause is were Gruden to leave the network for a coaching gig.

But what this contract does mean is that Gruden won't be in a hurry to move back to the coaching ranks. He has plenty of job security - and undoubtedly also a salary - that will allow him to be extremely picky about any offer to coach.

Perhaps, a job that came with a rookie franchise quarterback such as Andrew Luck could tempt Gruden. But now, he's not going to take a job just because he's desperate to get back in the NFL.

So the door for Gruden to return to the NFL may not shut completely, but it's ajar by a much slimmer margin than it was before this deal.

http://www.nationalf...-but-is-he.html

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

While I like the way Gruden coaches (ie. He actually shows emotion/passion)...we all got to sit back while he tore the Super Bowl Bucs team to shreds. Some of it, I'm sure, was the Glazers being cheap. But still! A head coach does have say in personel decisions. Does anyone really want Gruden to come in to Indy and rip this team apart even if he was available? Hopefully not. Id take Cowher in a hot second. I'm sure that somebody with his track record isn't interested in being a bandaid coach to a team this mismanaged for so long though. Regardless...whoever we get CAN'T be worse than Caldwell. Even if all they know how to do is call timeouts correctly...its already an upgrade. Lol. GO COLTS!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Thread of the Week

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Here's where I think Kelly 'fans' are distressed. To your point we don't know Kelly...fair.  So what do we know.  We know he can run, dude's fast.  We know he has a strong arm, like that.  We know he'll throw downfield and into tight windows, good!  We know he will stand in the pocket, check. We know he has the stuff to go into Alabama with an Ole Miss team and beat em, that no small thing. We also know he has off-field issues maybe he's grown up, don't know but we hear good things from Frank.  So to someone like me, I like what I see and like what I hear...Rally confused.   Here's what we know about Hoyer, he has none of those physical attributes but he's good in the QB room.  Ok, well, I'm good in QB room but you wouldn't want me under center.  There's an obvious hesitation here on the part of Frank and/or Chris to make Kelly a part of the permanent roster, they will likely cut him again and hope he clears waivers over Hoyer, that to me is absolutely stunning.  Either, Kelly is an off the field nightmare we shouldn't be investing in OR he should be at worst QB2. Hoyer is simply not good, we can get his level of performance literally anywhere, he's the prototypical failed backup and those are readily available on the cheap. I wouldn't understand keeping him over a contract when he weakens the team relative to someone like Kelly on game day.  So to a previous posters comment, why is Kelly here?  If he is such an integrity issue it's not our job to make a man out of him while he occupies a spot.  If he's is good enough physically, which he is, and he's on this roster, which he is, he should stay up and get some first team reps, as all back ups should and see how matures.  It starting to feel like some ego at play here.  All in all, our leadership was ill-prepared to deal with Brissett going down and choked this week in prep.  It's my hope we dump Hoyer who is useless and keep Kelly at QB2, I don't think that will happen.  My 2+ cents.
    • Willis ran in the low 4.5s in both his pro day and combine. No offense, but the articles on Colts.com are always very kind to the guys we draft. Like I said, love Willis, I just think he's more of a box guy. And low 4.5s is fast enough. He's field fast in the short space, which is great. 
    • Ok, read the following, and let me know specifically what you disagree with...   On Parcells.... https://nypost.com/2019/09/08/why-jacoby-brissett-has-a-big-backer-in-bill-parcells/   I love BP. Old school dude. Keep in mind he was a "defensive" coach. Do you remember the Bruner/Simms fiasco when he was in NY (not sure how old you are). Even BP admits he made the wrong QB decisions. At NE, he drafted Drew B with the first pick his first year, and then he bolted for NYJ after a few years. He didn't last long there either. When he was at Dallas, they were all over the place with QB.   I give him props for the two SBs in NYG, but he's also had some bad years and a lot of first round and WC losses. I don't think of him as a QB genius at all. It's pretty clear BP is more sold on JB's character than talent. And that's fine too. But his endorsement doesn't weigh heavily from a talent perspective given the entire context.    As far as Belichick is concerned, he's a genius on many things. And he's also a D guy. Aside from Brady, what is his track record for QBs? His HC gig with the Browns was a real mixed bag. At NE, since Brady, he's drafted 10 QBs. The majority of them never amounted to anything. Aside from Cassell (who had more downs than ups) and Jimmy G, the rest were bombs.    And JB was third on their depth chart, and IIRC they were shopping JB after the deflate gate and injury time was done. Not saying BB isn't a genius, or a great at evaluating .........  but the other 8 QBs did nothing, and what does that say about him? Love to hear the explanation.      
    • Yea that’s what his combine profile states but when the scouts took him through position drills and had him run his 40 at pro day their numbers tell a different story. And anyone can tell you a 40 yard dash is all about technique. Track speed doesn’t necessarily translate to “On the Field Speed” but I found the article and verbatim this is what the scouts said on Willis. If you’re curious to read the entire article it’s on Colts.com and titled “Through the Scouts Eye”   “So, you see him not only playing in the box, but I mean, he's played free safety. He plays nickel. He's played on the slot and he did a pretty good job with that. I think he's faster than a lot of people and a lot of people give him credit for it and he tested pretty well that way. I think he ran in the 4.4s, and he's a very well-rounded player. I was always taught a long time ago slow safety usually get your beat, dumb safeties always get your beat. He's the polar opposite of both. So, we're really excited about him.”
  • Members

×
×
  • Create New...