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Nope, giving up even a late round pick for a one dimensional TE that has been benched for a rookie is a horrible idea.

Almost every TE in football is one dimensional now, Fred adds about as much blocking as Scheffler and much more receiving. Now if his injury has crippled him then he won't pass a physical and the trade would be void. I just find it hard to believe that all of Fred Davis' talent and skill just disappeared seemingly overnight and I'd be willing to give up that late pick and find out.

We can agree to disagree here, no need to waste more of our time.

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Care to elaborate? Fred Davis in 2011 and 2012 was one of the best TEs in football before his injury. We're talking 1 year ago, not 4 or 5, he was playing at an extremely high level. I find it hard to believe he's lost it all and we're talking a late round pick, none of that "mortgaging the future" crap people love to throw around.

You do realize Dwayne Allen is out for the year, correct? You do realize the Colts could use a receiving threat this year, correct? Fred Davis would give us that receiving threat for as cheap as a 6th or 7th rounder. Do you really want to hold on to late round picks so badly that you'd give up a chance to improve this team now, when we are legitimate Super Bowl contenders?

I'm not worried about mortgaging the future. He's a stop gap player. Yes, I know DA is out for the season, and that we need a receiving threat, but a TE that is practically being given away probably doesn't strike much fear in the heart of defenses. Also, It doesn't stop Reggie from getting older, or provide a solution for anything, but this year, and that's even iffy. Ask Pierre Garcon, the Redskins "suck at passing" would it really make sense to get rid of Davis if he would be such an asset? I don't see any reasoning behind it. I'm not stingy with late round picks, but I'd at least like a player that is going to be here for a few years in return.

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The coaches need to light a fire under Richardsons butt!! I would make him run hard the first half, then bring Donald Brown in the second half... A little thunder and lightning!!! Donald runs twice as hard as Trent!!

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I'm not for or against a trade. If we make a trade, cool. If we don't, cool.

 

The problem for some is that they're so bent on a trade, they refuse to acknowledge anything West 56th Street says that doesn't line up with their desire.

I acknowledged that they said that...hence the thread.. Now, I may not agree with the decsion not to trade or at least bolster the WR corps, but I'm not bent out of shape. Confused? Yes. Disheartened? Maybe a little. I just think we need to do something to replace Reggie's production.

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no way be serious people no way the lions trade Calvin Johnson with the game he had sunday just no way.

Ever heard of sarcasm? If you ever see someone mention a trade for Calvin Johnson, they're being sarcastic . . . or they're insane.

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Heyward-Bey and Hilton need to learn how to catch the ball on a regular basis!! Also, our LB corps are BAD!! Especially Angerer!! He blocks himself better then any O-lineman or Rb ever could. THe only tackles he makes is falling on the pile!! Trade for Paul Posluszny or Shawn Lee.... Navro Bowman too! 

Paul Posluszny!!

 

Paul Posluszny

 

Paul Posluszny

 

 

lol No way you can get Lee or Bowman unless your trading luck. No thank you to the 3rd option. 

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I just think we need to do something to replace Reggie's production.

 

That is obvious.

 

But it would appear that we did do something to replace Reggie's production when we drafted Eugene Hilton with the 92nd pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, Lavon Brazill with the 206th pick and signed Griff Whalen as an undrafted Free Agent.

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Heward Bey and Fleener will not be in Colts uniforms next year.

 

Ehhh that's a mighty big stretch.

 

Heyward-Bey specifically signed with us because he and his agent knew we were going to have a lot of cap space next year. Now there may be a GM out there that thinks his QB can take advantage of DHB's skill set but I'd be willing to wager that most GMs will (incorrectly) attribute DHBs production to Andrew Luck being his QB and therefore will not be willing to drop but so much coin on him next off-season, thinking they cannot get the same kind of production out of him that we have/will.

 

And Fleener isn't going anywhere.

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That is obvious.

 

But it would appear that we did do something to replace Reggie's production when we drafted Eugene Hilton with the 92nd pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, Lavon Brazill with the 206th pick and signed Griff Whalen as an undrafted Free Agent.

I would argue that they were meant more to aid his production, not replace it.

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I'm not worried about mortgaging the future. He's a stop gap player. Yes, I know DA is out for the season, and that we need a receiving threat, but a TE that is practically being given away probably doesn't strike much fear in the heart of defenses. Also, It doesn't stop Reggie from getting older, or provide a solution for anything, but this year, and that's even iffy. Ask Pierre Garcon, the Redskins "suck at passing" would it really make sense to get rid of Davis if he would be such an asset? I don't see any reasoning behind it. I'm not stingy with late round picks, but I'd at least like a player that is going to be here for a few years in return.

I can respect that. I just feel that Fred Davis is worth the low round risk for how brilliantly he has played as recently as a year ago.

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You can argue that. But the fact that we did not trade/make a move to add anyone else in Reggie's place would bolster the contrapositive perspective.

Personally, I believe it bolsters the intranegative perspective.

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Ehhh it's kind of arguing semantics. Regardless, your response served to do a little less than further the discussion. ;)

So did your response to me.  I wasn't even talking to you.  But hey that's my opinion.

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Personally, I believe it bolsters the intranegative perspective.

 

Unfortunately you've misapplied the word intranegative.

 

Unless you meant to say a low-contrast color image is used as a positive...and somehow that has anything to do with this conversation.

 

Perhaps you meant interrogative? But that doesn't really apply either.

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