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It got of coarse by the Bob supporter. All she had to do is explain why Swiss cheese ate Bobby for lunch yesterday

Oh no way bobby is way better then luck lucks not even half the QB luck is Sony you know bob dominated luck last season

^sarcasm I'm bout done with all this rg excuses nonsense

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Another poster brought Brady in and I was responding. That is the post you responded to and took out of context. I will always defend my QB up here especially when someone chooses to only focus on half the game.

 

If you really want to bring Brady into this then we have to go back to last year as that is what we are comparing between RG and Luck in terms of the better QB. If we bring last year in then Brady slams both of them.

 

But again, for the last time, I am comparing Luck and RG. We have last season and half a season this year. RG crushed Luck last year and this year Luck is on top.

 

I have watched quite a few of the Colts games this year and I see an offense that runs a ton, a GM that spent a number one on a RB who was the overall number 3 pick from last year and a defense that is playing great ball. If you see that as taking away from Luck but so be it. But they are winning because they are playing great team football. Luck is doing his share but his run game and D are doing more IMO. You can disagree but his stats bear that out this season. They are asking him to do less which is a good thing in the long run. When they asked him to carry the team last year you got 23 TOs and a ton of hits. Not a good formular for winning or keeping your QB healthy.

 

In terms of RG, his team is horrific all around. He has not been playing well and yet they are in the thick of things in the putrid NFC East. I think he could win the division. Does his game have shortcomings? For sure. He is not proficient at progression based reading, his clock in his head is not going off at the right time and he is getting hit way too much. Will his body hold up? I have my doubts. I think Luck has his issues too like bounce passes one of which got Wayne on IR. He makes bad decisions at times. He can be streaky but he can be clutch too. It is always a mixed bag with the QB position because it relies so much on all 11 guys being on the same page. Luck has the much better team this year so I would expect him to be more successful but that is hardly a reason to proclaim him better than Rg just like Rgs superb season last year was not a reason to proclaim him better than Luck.

 

 

It's OK that Luck had a terrible team around him last year and he won 11 games. Now RG111 has a terrible team around him and it's geez .. yeah but .. well .. I still think "He" can win the division. How utterly ridiculous you sound. So if Luck goes 12-4 and RG111 goes 7-9 , they are pretty much equal because both guys (teams) won their division. You really are making a donkey out of yourself . I can't believe you don't just stop responding to this and hope it goes away.

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It's OK that Luck had a terrible team around him last year and he won 11 games. Now RG111 has a terrible team around him and it's geez .. yeah but .. well .. I still think "He" can win the division. How utterly ridiculous you sound. So if Luck goes 12-4 and RG111 goes 7-9 , they are pretty much equal because both guys (teams) won their division. You really are making a donkey out of yourself . I can't believe you don't just stop responding to this and hope it goes away.

She actually does this a lot lol it cracks me up
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It's OK that Luck had a terrible team around him last year and he won 11 games. Now RG111 has a terrible team around him and it's geez .. yeah but .. well .. I still think "He" can win the division. How utterly ridiculous you sound. So if Luck goes 12-4 and RG111 goes 7-9 , they are pretty much equal because both guys (teams) won their division. You really are making a donkey out of yourself . I can't believe you don't just stop responding to this and hope it goes away.

Their teams were similar last year. Both below average for sure. I think Colts were 21 in defense and the Skins were 22. This year it is not even close. Colts had the better off-season and better coaching too thus far. I think Luck will have the better year this year but we are only half way through. Like I said, two years does not prove anything. I don't think RG was the better QB just based on last year. It needs some time.

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Their teams were similar last year. Both below average for sure. I think Colts were 21 in defense and the Skins were 22. This year it is not even close. Colts had the better off-season and better coaching too thus far. I think Luck will have the better year this year but we are only half way through. Like I said, two years does not prove anything. I don't think RG was the better QB just based on last year. It needs some time.

I think Luck is better than Brady right now...yeah and I mean it...deal with it.

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Their teams were similar last year. Both below average for sure. I think Colts were 21 in defense and the Skins were 22. This year it is not even close. Colts had the better off-season and better coaching too thus far. I think Luck will have the better year this year but we are only half way through. Like I said, two years does not prove anything. I don't think RG was the better QB just based on last year. It needs some time.

 

 

 

No they weren't that similar. The Redskins had a very good offensive line and the Colts had the worst in football. The Redskins had a great running game and the Colts did not. We were often behind by a whole bunch and Luck threw 40- 50 times , that alone will give you some extra ints.

 

Furthermore ...

 

RG111 played in a college system designed to make up for his lack of reading defense abilities. It also put him out in space where his bad pocket presence would not be exposed. Most of this resulted in safe one read throws that don't lead to ints. Now the defenses have learned how to defend the read option and he's being asked to do things that he didn't have to do last year. If you get pressure up the middle on this guy , you have a MAJOR catastrophe. He'll be seeing pocket ghosts the rest of the game and will pretty much implode. He needs to be taught how to read defenses and I believe you do that by "biting the bullet " and designing an offense that does not try to cover up his weakness ... as Shanahan has done. It's always been a let's win now attitude and the heck with RG111's development . Besides that , the guy is going to get killed as this style of offense is resuting in massive bad hits on him.

 

Luck on the other hand was asked to run a downfield Arians offense that was almost impossible to do with that horrific offensive line.No rookie should have ever been asked to do what was put on Luck's shudders. Yes he made some bad decisions and he still does and he always will. Just like Tom Brady and every other QB in the NFL. It appears to me and the rest of the footbal world that he makes less all the time and his "learning curve " is off the charts. Anyway.. you have to put at least some of those ints on Arians

 

I always like to back up my premises with a stat if possible. 

 

Last year Carson Palmer with a bad Oakland team        565 pass attempts  14 ints.

 

This year Carson Palmer with a so so Arizona Cardinal team   284 pass attempts  14 ints.

 

 

 

I know you have to have the last word but you are being so badly dominated . You are looking more silly by the post.

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She actually does this a lot lol it cracks me up

 

 

It's like the kid that will keep fighting no matter how often and how bad the beatings are. I can't help but like her as you pretty much can call her any name in the book , insult her ... and whatever else. She will never hit the report button and will take all you can dish out.

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It's like the kid that will keep fighting no matter how often and how bad the beatings are. I can't help but like her as you pretty much can call her any name in the book , insult her ... and whatever else. She will never hit the report button and will take all you can dish out.

I just love when the fans of other teams come here and try to prove their point and fail horribly lol
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No they weren't that similar. The Redskins had a very good offensive line and the Colts had the worst in football. The Redskins had a great running game and the Colts did not. We were often behind by a whole bunch and Luck threw 40- 50 times , that alone will give you some extra ints.

 

Furthermore ...

 

RG111 played in a college system designed to make up for his lack of reading defense abilities. It also put him out in space where his bad pocket presence would not be exposed. Most of this resulted in safe one read throws that don't lead to ints. Now the defenses have learned how to defend the read option and he's being asked to do things that he didn't have to do last year. If you get pressure up the middle on this guy , you have a MAJOR catastrophe. He'll be seeing pocket ghosts the rest of the game and will pretty much implode. He needs to be taught how to read defenses and I believe you do that by "biting the bullet " and designing an offense that does not try to cover up his weakness ... as Shanahan has done. It's always been a let's win now attitude and the heck with RG111's development . Besides that , the guy is going to get killed as this style of offense is resuting in massive bad hits on him.

 

Luck on the other hand was asked to run a downfield Arians offense that was almost impossible to do with that horrific offensive line.No rookie should have ever been asked to do what was put on Luck's shudders. Yes he made some bad decisions and he still does and he always will. Just like Tom Brady and every other QB in the NFL. It appears to me and the rest of the footbal world that he makes less all the time and his "learning curve " is off the charts. Anyway.. you have to put at least some of those ints on Arians

 

I always like to back up my premises with a stat if possible. 

 

Last year Carson Palmer with a bad Oakland team        565 pass attempts  14 ints.

 

This year Carson Palmer with a so so Arizona Cardinal team   284 pass attempts  14 ints.

 

 

 

I know you have to have the last word but you are being so badly dominated . You are looking more silly by the post.

I am not sure what you want to prove honestly. If you believe Luck is better so be it. My only point is that RG was the better QB last year and this year Luck is playing better. If you want to say RG had a better team last year, ok. Luck has the better team this year. Everything needs to play out this year first and the years to come to truly determine who is better.

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His numbers are on par with Alex Smith.

 

Alex Smith: 10 TDs (9 passing 1 rushing), 4 INTs, 59.1 completion%, 6.3 YPA

 

Brady: 9 TDs, 6 INTs, 55.7 completion%, 5.9 YPA

 

Luck 13 TDs (10 passing 3 rushing), 3 INTs, 60.1 completion%, 7.0 YPA.

 

Not to mention Luck has almost 200 rushing yards. 

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Alex Smith: 10 TDs (9 passing 1 rushing), 4 INTs, 59.1 completion%, 6.3 YPA

Brady: 9 TDs, 6 INTs, 55.7 completion%, 5.9 YPA

Luck 13 TDs (10 passing 3 rushing), 3 INTs, 60.1 completion%, 7.0 YPA.

Not to mention Luck has almost 200 rushing yards.

Uh oh.

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Alex Smith: 10 TDs (9 passing 1 rushing), 4 INTs, 59.1 completion%, 6.3 YPA

 

Brady: 9 TDs, 6 INTs, 55.7 completion%, 5.9 YPA

 

Luck 13 TDs (10 passing 3 rushing), 3 INTs, 60.1 completion%, 7.0 YPA.

 

Not to mention Luck has almost 200 rushing yards. 

Like I said on par with Smith and Smith is undefeated...

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Nope. GO and read ANY of my posts concerning Richardson. I literally say SO FAR Richardson has been an average looking back imo. Not once have I used the term Bust, and multiple times I have stated that I will give give him as much times as he needs to prove me wrong. So OffensivelyPC, I've no idea who you're trying to follow here. If you're debating anything i've written, just go look at my posts on him :)

You are fooling nobody with that codswallop. I have pet hates, it's ok to be honest, rather than try and cover up your views.

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Like I said on par with Smith and Smith is undefeated...

 

Yep. And they are way better than Brady's. 

 

Who would have thought last year that Luck and Alex Smith would be better QBs than Tom Brady was halfway through this season?

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Yep. And they are way better than Brady's. 

 

Who would have thought last year that Luck and Alex Smith would be better QBs than Tom Brady was halfway through this season?

Too bad they don't give out the Lombardi and league MVP at the half way point....

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You don't want to turn this into another Jim Irsay therapy session, do you? ;) I think this post would be considered baiting according to forum rules, no?

This proves why you are here. You are making yourself, and your Patriot cohorts look bad. Please put the internet(s) down... and walk away.

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Alex Smith: 10 TDs (9 passing 1 rushing), 4 INTs, 59.1 completion%, 6.3 YPA

 

Brady: 9 TDs, 6 INTs, 55.7 completion%, 5.9 YPA

 

Luck 13 TDs (10 passing 3 rushing), 3 INTs, 60.1 completion%, 7.0 YPA.

 

Not to mention Luck has almost 200 rushing yards

 

I do hope that you are mindful of rushing yards of a QB the next time you think about RGIII

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Their teams were similar last year. Both below average for sure. I think Colts were 21 in defense and the Skins were 22. This year it is not even close. Colts had the better off-season and better coaching too thus far. I think Luck will have the better year this year but we are only half way through. Like I said, two years does not prove anything. I don't think RG was the better QB just based on last year. It needs some time.

 

 

Not meaning to jump on the rampage that is on you.  BUT lets put Brady to the side 

 

What is it that you are seeing that makes RG3's season last year better than Luck's?  (I'm trying to have an intellectual football conversation mind you so let us leave everyone else's posts out of this.)

 

As far as I'm seeing nothing you can say would realistically say he had the better season save that he won the RoTY award... which was well questionable to say the least since Russell Wilson clearly deserved it by far.  From my perspective:

 

1.Luck had an offense that didn't help him at all, on contrast RG3 had an offense tailored to help him "ease" into the NFL game.

2. Luck threw for record yardage and record late minute drives, RG3 had a fumbling problem.

3. RG3 ran a whole bunch of yards against -15 defenses. Luck has little response in this area except that he ran TD's in

4. Luck was hit a whole bunch more threw many more passes, but also had a lot of more INT.  RG3 was asked to do very little but run the ball and pass on first read...

5. Record alone favors Luck over RG3

6.  Last year the Texans were considered a more competitive team for the Super Bowl than any team in the NFC East.  Competition would thus slightly lean to Luck as the teams in the NFC East all were bad.  (I know Titans and Jags are terribad but one Super Bowl contender makes up for that I'd say wouldn't you?  I guess this is debatable.

 

This is without accounting instability at the coaching position last year for Luck and a Defense in the middle of a scheme transition.

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time will tell how the RGIII and Luck scenario pans out and it will be fun to watch . . . Luck had to good fortune to land on a team that has had a winning pedigree and several division titles under its belt prior to his arrival.  the Washington Redskins have been in the NFL wasteland for essentially two decades . . .. so the team around RGIII is not as strong as luck's . . .

 

but as AMfootball mentioned lets give it some time, it is only a season and a half . . . I would take luck over RGIII in the draft, but does not mean that I am right, RGIII might end up surpassing Luck as there careers move forward. 

 

so far this year RGIII has not done well and really lay an egg when his team was up and he had a chance to help his team win against the strong broncos but could not get it done . . . .

 

This picture will be more clear as we move forward, we can revisit it at the 3 year mark and again at the 5 year mark and so on . . .  

 

EDIT sorry for small font not sure what happened . . .

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time will tell how the RGIII and Luck scenario pans out and it will be fun to watch . . . Luck had to good fortune to land on a team that has had a winning pedigree and several division titles under its belt prior to his arrival.  the Washington Redskins have been in the NFL wasteland for essentially two decades . . .. so the team around RGIII is not as strong as luck's . . .

 

but as AMfootball mentioned lets give it some time, it is only a season and a half . . . I would take luck over RGIII in the draft, but does not mean that I am right, RGIII might end up surpassing Luck as there careers move forward. 

 

so far this year RGIII has not done well and really lay an egg when his team was up and he had a chance to help his team win against the strong broncos but could not get it done . . . .

 

This picture will be more clear as we move forward, we can revisit it at the 3 year mark and again at the 5 year mark and so on . . .  

 

EDIT sorry for small font not sure what happened . . .

 

I completely agree, but I think I'm more interested in the comments AMfootball has made about the present body of work.  From what I have seen, and mind you this is only my opinion, RG3 has immense talent, but his football intellect isn't up to the standard necessary to achieve QB Elite.  Luck while being carried (thankfully Indy figured it out and followed the Brady model :-) )  has shown to me that he has the know how to not make a mistake twice and throw NFL level throws coupled with knowing the good decisions from the bad. 

 

But on a final note agreed on lets let their careers play out to see it.  It will be fun to watch !

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Why wouldn't I be? He bad passing and running this year.

 

I have not had a time to look at his stats too closely this year . . . but last year he has a lot of rushing yards . . . and a few rushing TDs from what I recall . . . and I think some people, and glad to see you are not one of them, do not understand that rushing yards are just as valuable as passing yards.  so if a QB contributes X yards to the offense, either through the air or by his feet, to me its the same . . . i think sometimes what got lost in the shuffle, and I am glad to see that you understand this . . . a lot of people when reviewing RGIII last year do not include his rushing yards as contribution to the offense and just look at the passing yards . . .  

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I have not had a time to look at his stats too closely this year . . . but last year he has a lot of rushing yards . . . and a few rushing TDs from what I recall . . . and I think some people, and glad to see you are not one of them, do not understand that rushing yards are just as valuable as passing yards.  so if a QB contributes X yards to the offense, either through the air or by his feet, to me its the same . . . i think sometimes what got lost in the shuffle, and I am glad to see that you understand this . . . a lot of people when reviewing RGIII last year do not include his rushing yards as contribution to the offense and just look at the passing yards . . .  

 

Yeah I agree with all of that. 

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I do hope that you are mindful of rushing yards of a QB the next time you think about RGIII

Andrew Luck has 180+ yards rushing, and Robert Griffin III has 240+. The big difference is the Griffin takes a inordinate number of big hits... and has spent a lot of time laying on his back, or holding his knee because of it. Mobility is a good thing for a quarterback, but should be used sparingly especially when a player like Griffin has the ability to throw the ball well. They had a running back in Washington who can do that.

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Tons of QBs are better than Brady right now so that's not saying much. 

 

I know I wanted to bench him this week on my fantasy team, I have Russell Wilson as my back up, but got home after 1 pm on Sunday from Mass and grocery shopping . . .  he should be better later in the year we the offense is fully healthy . . .

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I know I wanted to bench him this week on my fantasy team, I have Russell Wilson as my back up, but got home after 1 pm on Sunday from Mass and grocery shopping . . .  he should be better later in the year we the offense is fully healthy . . .

 

idk, Vollmer going down is going to hurt. He was playing extremely well this year. Is he going to back back later on in the season or is he going on IR? 

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Andrew Luck has 180+ yards rushing, and Robert Griffin III has 240+. The big difference is the Griffin takes a inordinate number of big hits... and has spent a lot of time laying on his back, or holding his knee because of it. Mobility is a good thing for a quarterback, but should be used sparingly especially when a player like Griffin has the ability to throw the ball well. They had a running back in Washington who can do that.

 

yes agreed, I am not a fan of a QB running, even as "much" as Rogers and Luck . . . these guys are just too valuable . . .and it looks like the skins this year have learn this . ..I was just pointing out that rushing yards needed to be added in and RGIII did add some last year that sometimes gets lost in the shuffle in the discussion

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idk, Vollmer going down is going to hurt. He was playing extremely well this year. Is he going to back back later on in the season or is he going on IR? 

 

I do not know yet, but him yelling did not sound good . . . and the sense around the fringes of the team in the media is that he might be done for the season . . . there is nothing official yet that I am aware of, but the Pats might of release something . . . its been Red Soxs most of the day on the radio and not much pats, so not sure . . .

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Williams             Auburn WR         6'2"        224 98.   Tutu Atwell Louisville              WRS       5'9"        156 99.   Baron Browning        Ohio State           ILB          6'3"        248 100.           Ronnie Perkins  Oklahoma           OLB        6'4'         230 101.           Dazz Newsome North Carolina   WR         5'11"      175 102.           Paulson Adebo  Stanford              CB           6'1"        190 103.           Richard LeCounte III        Georgia S              5'11"      190 104.           Damonte Coxie Memphis             WR         6'3''        197 105.           Aaron Robinson UCF        CB           5'11''      193 106.           Jaret Patterson Buffalo RB           5'9"        195 107.           Drake Jackson    Kentucky             OC          6'2''        292 108.           Sage Surratt        Wake Forest       WR         6'2"        215 109.           Dayo Odeyingbo              Vanderbilt           DL5T      6'5''        279 110.           Israel Mukuamu               South Carolina   CB           6'3"        205 111.           Hunter Long       Boston College  TE           6'5"        253 112.           Kenny Yeboah   Ole Miss               TE           6'4''        240 113.           Marlon Tuipulotu             USC        DL3T      6'1"        308 114.           Divine Deablo    Virginia Tech      S              6'3''        226 115.           Khalil Herbert    Virginia Tech      RBC        5'9"        205 116.           Rashad Weaver Pitt         EDGE     6'5"        270 117.           Eric Stokes          Georgia CB           6'1"        185 118.           Ar'Darius Washington    TCU        S              5'8"        175 119.           Aaron Banks       Notre Dame       OG         6'5"        330 120.           Pete Werner      Ohio State           ILB          6'3''        239 121.           Chris Rumph II   Duke     EDGE     6'3"        225 122.           Tony Poljan        Virginia TE           6'7"        265 123.           Trey Hill                Georgia OC          6'4"        330 124.           Cary Angeline    North Carolina State       TE           6'7"        250 125.           Ihmir Smith-Marsette    Iowa      WR         6'2"        175 126.           Kylin Hill               Mississippi State               RB           5'11"      215 127.           Charles Snowden             Virginia OLB        6'6"        232 128.           Caden Sterns     Texas    S              6'0"        210 129.           Rodarius Williams             Oklahoma State CB           6'0"        193 130.           Quinn Meinerz  UW-Whitewater              OC          6'3"        320 131.           Keith Taylor        Washington        CB           6'3"        191 132.           Elijah Mitchell    Louisiana             RB           5'11"      221 133.           Tedarrell Slaton Florida  DL1T      6'5"        358 134.           Pooka Williams  Kansas  RBC        5'10"      170 135.           Olaijah Griffin    USC        CB           6'0''        170 136.           Torrance Marable            Coastal Carolina                RBC        5'10"      200 137.           Damon Hazelton              Missouri               WR         6'2"        215 138.           Tariq Thompson               San Diego State S              6'0"        200 139.           Ta'Quon Graham              Texas    DL3T      6'4"        294 140.           K.J. Britt                Auburn ILB          6'0"        236 141.           Monty Rice         Georgia OLB        6'1"        235 142.           Kylen Granson   SMU      TE           6'2''        235 143.           Kellen Mond      Texas A&M         QB          6'3"        217 144.           Paddy Fisher      Northwestern   ILB          6'4"        246 145.           Amari Rodgers  Clemson              WR         5'9"        210 146.           Jamien Sherwood            Auburn S              6'2''        220 147.           Max Duffy           Kentucky             P             6'1"        185 148.           Spencer K. Brown             Northern Iowa  OT          6'9''        321 149.           Nico Collins         Michigan              WR         6'4"        222 150.           Tommy Togiai    Ohio State           DL3T      6'2"        300 151.           JaCoby Stevens LSU        S              6'1''        228 152.           Jordan Smith      UAB       EDGE     6'7"        255 153.           Tyler Vaughns   USC        WR         6'2"        190 154.           Jack Anderson   Texas Tech          OG         6'5"        315 155.           Bobby Brown III Texas A&M         DL1T      6'3"        325 156.           Darren Hall          San Diego State CB           6'0"        190 157.           Donovan Stiner Florida  S              6'1"        203 158.           Wyatt Hubert    Kansas State       EDGE     6'3"        270 159.           Thomas Graham Jr.         Oregon CB           5'10"      193 160.           Shemar Jean-Charles      Appalachian State            CB           5'11"      190 161.           Malik Herring     Georgia DL5T      6'3"        283 162.           Daelin Hayes      Notre Dame       EDGE     6'4"        268 163.           Tommy Kraemer              Notre Dame       OG         6'6"        317 164.           Marco Wilson    Florida  CB           6'0"        190 165.           Trill Williams       Syracuse              CB           6'2'         198 166.           Shaka Toney       Penn State          EDGE     6'3"        243 167.           Jimmy Morrissey              Pitt         OC          6'3"        305 168.           Sam Ehlinger      Texas    QB          6'3"        225 169.           Sadarius Hutcherson      South Carolina   OG         6'4"        320 170.           D.J. Daniel           Georgia CB           6'0''        183 171.           Camryn Bynum Cal          CB           6'0''        198 172.           Jermar Jefferson              Oregon State     RBC        5'9"        215 173.           Jose Borregales Miami (FL)           PK           5'10"      205 174.           Alaric Jackson    Iowa      OT          6'6"        315 175.           Brennan Eagles Texas    WR         6'2"        225 176.           Tommy Doyle    Miami (OH)         OT          6'8''        326 177.           Jonathan Marshall           Arkansas              DL1T      6'3"        317 178.           Shane Buechele SMU      QB          6'1"        207 179.           Joshua Kaindoh Florida State       EDGE     6'7"        261 180.           James Hudson   Cincinnati            OT          6'5"        310 181.           Benjamin St-Juste            Minnesota          CB           6'3"        200 182.           Demetric Felton                UCLA     RBC        5'9"        189 183.           Victor Dimukeje Duke     EDGE     6'2"        265 184.           Xavier Kelly         Arkansas              DL3T      6'4"        305 185.           Kary Vincent Jr. LSU        CB           5'10"      182 186.           Noah Gray           Duke     TE           6'4"        240 187.           Adrian Ealy          Oklahoma           OT          6'6"        327 188.           Michal Menet   Penn State          OC          6'4''        305 189.           Pressley Harvin III            Georgia Tech      P             6'0"        255 190.           Amen Ogbongbemiga    Oklahoma State OLB        6'1"        231 191.           T.J. Vasher          Texas Tech          WR         6'6"        210 192.           Josh Imatorbhebhe         Illinois   WR         6'2"        215 193.           Matt Bushman  BYU        TE           6'5"        245 194.           Stevie Scott        Indiana RB           6'2"        231 195.           Brady Christensen           BYU        OT          6'6''        300 196.           Quintin Morris   Bowling Green  TE           6'4"        248 197.           Riley Patterson Memphis             PK           6'0"        190 198.           Malcolm Koonce              Buffalo EDGE     6'3"        250 199.           Robert Rochell   Central Arkansas              CB           6'0''        195 200.           Ben Mason         Michigan              FB           6'3"        254
    • Bender honey we love you SHUT UP BABY I KNOW IT
    • Trade 1: Miami offer picks No.3, No.18, No.50 and Tua Tagavailova to Texans for DeShaun Watson   Trade 2: WFT offers pick No.19 to NYJ for pick No.34 and Sam Darnold   Trade 3: Carolina offers pick No.8 and pick No.104 to Houston for Tua, pick No.18,  and pick No.113   Trade 4: Indianapolis Colts offer pick No.21 (1st) and pick No.118 (4th) to Las Vegas Raiders for Derek Carr   Trade 5: Tennessee Titans offer Pick No.22, Pick No.53 and Pick No.86 to Denver Broncos for Pick No.9   Trade 6: Las Vegas Raiders offer Pick No.21 and Pick No.145 for Carson Wentz and Pick No.37   Trade 7: Carolina Panthers offer Pick No.113 to Eagles for Zach Ertz   Trade 8: New England Patriots trade Patrick Surtain and a 4th rounder to the Los Angeles Chargers for Jaylen Waddle   Trade 9: Los Angeles Chargers trade Patrick Surtain to Carolina Panthers for pick No.18 and No.73   Trade 10: Cleveland Browns trade Jarvis Landry and Pick No.123 to Chicago Bears for their 3rd round pick No.84   Trade 11: Pittsburgh Steelers trade Pick No.55 (2nd), Pick No.88 (3rd) and Pick No.192 (6th) to Bucs for pick No.32   Trade 12: Houston Texans trade pick No.50, No.100 and No.104 to New Orleans Saints for Marshon Lattimore   Round 1   1.  Jacksonville (1-15) - Trevor Lawrence, QB, Clemson 2.  NY Jets (2-14) - Justin Fields, QB, Ohio State 3.  Houston from Miami - from Houston (4-12) - Zach Wilson, QB, BYU 4.  Atlanta (4-12) - Penei Sowell, OT, Oregon 5.  Cincinnati (4-11-1) - JaMarr Chase, WR, LSU 6.  Philadelphia (4-11-1) - Trey Lance, QB, North Dakota State 7.  Detroit (5-11) - Micah Parsons, LB, Penn State 8.  Houston from Carolina (5-11) - DaVonta Smith, WR, Alabama 9.  Titans from Denver (5-11) - Kwity Paye, DE, Michigan 10.  Dallas (6-10) - Rashawn Slater, OT, Northwestern 11.  NY Giants (6-10) - Kyle Pitts, TE, Florida 12.  San Francisco (6-10) - Caleb Farley, CB, Virginia Tech 13.  New England from LA Chargers (7-9) - Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama 14.  Minnesota (7-9) - Gregory Rousseau, DE, Miami 15.  Carolina from LA Chargers from New England (7-9) - Patrick Surtain, CB, Alabama 16.  Arizona (8-8) - Jaycee Horn, CB, South Carolina 17.  Las Vegas (8-8) - Jaelen Philips, EDGE, Miami 18.  Chargers from Carolina from Houston from Miami (10-6) - Rondale Moore, WR, Purdue 19.  NY Jets From WFT* (7-9) - Najee Harris RB Alabama 20.  Chicago* (8-8) - Alijah Vera-Tucker OT USC 21.  Philadelphia from Las Vegas from Indianapolis* (11-5) - Rashod Bateman, WR, Minnesota 22.  Denver from Tennessee* (11-5) - Christian Darrisaw, OT, Virginia Tech 23.  NY Jets - from Seattle* (12-4) - Zaven Collins, OLB/DE, Tulsa 24.  Pittsburgh* (12-4) - Jalen Mayfield, OT, Michigan 25.  Jacksonville - from LA Rams* (10-6) - Trevon Moehring, S, TCU 26.  Cleveland* (11-5) - Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, LB, Notre Dame 27.  Baltimore* (11-5) - Kadarius Toney, WR, Florida 28.  New Orleans* (12-4) - Patrick Jones II, DE, Pittsburgh 29.  Green Bay* (13-3) - Terrance Marshall, WR, LSU 30.  Buffalo* (13-3) - Teven Jenkins, OT, Oklahoma State 31.  Kansas City* (14-2) - Wyatt Davis, OG/C, Ohio State 32.  Pittsburgh from Tampa Bay* (11-5) - Mac Jones, QB, Alabama   Houston -> Miami: For Laremy Tunsil Miami -> Houston: For DeShaun Watson Carolina -> Houston: For Tua LA Rams -> Jacksonville: For Jalen Ramsey Seattle -> NY Jets: For Jamal Adams WFT -> NY Jets For Sam Darnold Indianapolis -> Las Vegas For Derek Carr Tennessee -> Denver (1st, 2nd and 3rd for pick No. 9, Kwity Paye) Las Vegas -> Philadelphia for Carson Wentz New England -> Chargers for Jaylen Waddle Carolina -> Chargers for Patrick Surtain Pittsburgh -> Tampa Bay for Mac Jones     Round 2   33.  Jacksonville (1-15) - Sam Cosmi, OT, Texas 34.  WFT From NY Jets (2-14) - Alex Leatherwood, OT, Alabama 35.  Atlanta (4-12) - Creed Humphrey, OG, Oklahoma 36.  Miami - from Houston (4-12) - Travis Etienne, RB, Clemson 37.  Las Vegas From Philadelphia (4-11-1) - Asante Samuel Jr., CB, Florida State 38.  Cincinnati (4-11-1) - Christian Barmore, DL, Alabama 39.  Carolina (5-11) - Liam Eichenberg, OT, Notre Dame 40.  Denver (5-11) - Jayson Oweh, DE, Penn State 41.  Detroit (5-11) - Elijah Moore, WR, Ole Miss 42.  NY Giants (6-10) - Tamorrion Terry, WR, Florida State 43.  San Francisco (6-10) - Jevon Holland, S, Oregon 44.  Dallas (6-10) - Jay Tufele, DT, USC 45.  Jacksonville - from Minnesota (7-9) - Jackson Carmon, OT, Clemson 46.  New England (7-9) - Joseph Ossai, EDGE/OLB, Texas 47.  LA Chargers (7-9) - Dillon Radunz, OT, North Dakota State 48.  Las Vegas (8-8) - Nick Bolton, LB, Missouri 49.  Arizona (8-8) - Walker Little, OT, Stanford 50.  New Orleans From Houston from Miami (10-6) - Dylan Moses, LB, Alabama 51.  WFT* (7-9) - Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn State 52.  Chicago* (8-8) - Kyle Trask, QB, Florida 53.  Denver from Tennessee* (11-5) - Jabril Cox, LB, LSU 54.  Indianapolis* (11-5) - Levi Onwuzurike, DT, Washington 55.  Tampa Bay  from Pittsburgh* (12-4) - Carlos Basham, DE, Wake Forest 56.  Seattle* (12-4) - Brady Christiansen, OT, BYU 57.  LA Rams* (10-6) - Landon Dickerson, C, Alabama 58.  Baltimore* (11-5) - Azeez Ojulari, EDGE, Georgia 59.  Cleveland* (11-5) - Richie Grant, Safety, UCF 60.  New Orleans* (12-4) - Greg Newsome II, CB, Northwestern 61.  Buffalo* (13-3) - Ronnie Perkins, EDGE, Oklahoma 62.  Green Bay* (13-3) - Daviyon Nixon, DT, Iowa 63.  Kansas City* (14-2) - Josh Myers, C, Ohio State 64.  Tampa Bay* (11-5) - Tyson Campbell, CB, Georgia   Houston -> Miami: Laremy Tunsil Minnesota -> Jacksonville: Yannick Ngakoue NY Jets -> WFT in Sam Darnold trade Philadelphia -> Las Vegas in Carson Wentz trade Miami -> Houston: For DeShaun Watson Houston -> New Orleans For Marshon Lattimore Tennessee -> Denver (1st, 2nd and 3rd for pick No. 9, Kwity Paye) Pittsburgh -> Tampa Bay for Mac Jones     Round 3   65.  Jacksonville (1-15) - Tyler Shelvin, DL, LSU 66.  NY Jets (2-14) - Marquez Stevenson, WR, Houston 67.  Houston (4-12) - Trey Sermon, RB, Ohio State 68.  Atlanta (4-12) - Marvin Wilson, DL, FSU 69.  Cincinnati (4-11-1) - James Hudson, OT, Cincinnati 70.  Philadelphia (4-11-1) - Ifeatu Melifonwu, CB, Syracuse 71.  Denver (5-11) - Elijah Molden, CB, Washington 72.  Detroit (5-11) - Alim McNeil, DL, NC State 73.  Los Angeles Chargers From Carolina (5-11) - Shaun Wade, CB, Ohio State 74.  WFT - from San Francisco (6-10) - Amon-Ra St. Brown, WR, USC 75.  Dallas (6-10) - Aaron Robinson, CB, Central Florida 76.  NY Giants (6-10) - Paulson Adebo, CB, Stanford 77.  New England (7-9) - Jamie Newman, QB, Georgia 78.  LA Chargers (7-9) - Rashad Weaver, DE, Pittsburgh 79.  Minnesota (7-9) - Osa Odighizuwa, DT, UCLA 80.  Arizona (8-8) - Payton Turner, DE, Houston 81.  Las Vegas (8-8) - Hamsah Nasirldeen, S, FSU 82.  Miami (10-6) - Tylan Wallace, WR, Oklahoma State 83.  WFT* (7-9) - Deonte Brown, OG, Alabama 84.  Cleveland From Chicago* (8-8) - Joe Tryon, DE, Washington 85.  Indianapolis* (11-5) - Jordan Smith, DE, UAB 86.  Denver From Tennessee* (11-5) - Ar'Darius Washington, S, TCU 87.  NY Jets - from Seattle* (12-4) - Andre Cisco, S, Syracuse 88.  Tampa Bay From Pittsburgh* (12-4) - Camerone McGrone, LB, Michigan 89.  Detroit - from LA Rams* (10-6) - Trey Smith, OG, Tennessee 90.  Cleveland* (11-5) - Shakur Brown, CB, Michigan State 91.  Minnesota - from Baltimore* (11-5) - Ben Cleveland, OG, Georgia 92.  Cleveland - from New Orleans* (12-4) - D’Wayne Eskridge, WR, Western Michigan 93.  Green Bay* (13-3) - Chazz Surratt, OLB, North Carolina 94.  Buffalo* (13-3) - Eric Stokes, CB, Georgia 95.  Kansas City* (14-2) - Jaelon Darden, WR, North Texas 96.  Tampa Bay* (11-5) - Israel Mukumanu, CB, South Carolina   Baltimore -> Minnesota: Yannick Ngakoue LA Rams -> Detroit: Matthew Stafford New England stripped of draft pick because of Spygate II New Orleans -> Cleveland: 2020 picks San Francisco -> Washington: Trent Williams Seattle -> NY Jets: Jamal Adams Tennessee -> Denver (1st, 2nd and 3rd for pick No. 9, Kwity Paye) Carolina -> Chargers for Patrick Surtain Chicago -> Cleveland in Jarvis Landry trade Pittsburgh -> Tampa Bay for Mac Jones     Round 4 97.   Jacksonville (1-15) - Javonte Williams, RB, North Carolina 98.   NY Jets (2-14) - Chubba Hubbard, RB, Oklahoma State 99.   Atlanta (4-12) - Paris Ford, S, Pittsburgh 100.  New Orleans from Houston (4-12) - Dyami Brown, WR, North Carolina 101.  Cleveland - from Philadelphia (4-11-1) - Hamilcar Rashed, EDGE, Oregon 102.  Cincinnati (4-11-1) - Tutu Atwell, WR, Louisville 103.  Detroit (5-11) - Talanoa Hufanga, S, USC 104.  New Orleans from Houston from Carolina (5-11) - Jamien Sherwood, S, Auburn 105.  Denver (5-11) - Quinn Meinerz, OG/OC , Wisconsin - Whitewater 106.  Dallas (6-10) - Jaylen Twyman DT, Pitt 107.  NY Giants (6-10) - Marlon Williams, WR, UCF 108.  San Francisco (6-10) - Aaron Banks, OG, Notre Dame 109.  LA Chargers (7-9) - Justin Hilliard, LB, Ohio State 110.  Minnesota (7-9) 111.  LA Chargers from New England (7-9) 112.  Las Vegas from Miami - from Las Vegas (8-8) 113.  Eagles from Carolina from Houston - from Arizona (8-8) 114.  Miami (10-6) 115.  WFT* (7-9) 116.  Minnesota - from Chicago* (8-8) 117.  Tennessee* (11-5) 118.  Las Vegas from Indianapolis* (11-5) 119.  Pittsburgh* (12-4) 120.  Seattle* (12-4) 121.  Jacksonville - from LA Rams* (10-6) 122.  Baltimore* (11-5) 123.  Chicago from Cleveland* (11-5) 124.  New Orleans* (12-4) 125.  Minnesota - from Buffalo* (13-3) 126.  Green Bay* (13-3) 127.  Kansas City* (14-2) 128.  Tampa Bay* (11-5)     Arizona -> Houston: De'Andre Hopkins Buffalo -> Minnesota: Stefon Diggs Chicago -> Minnesota: 2020 picks LA Rams -> Jacksonville: Jalen Ramsey Philadelphia -> Cleveland: Genard Avery Las Vegas -> Miami: Raekwon McMillan Miami -> Las Vegas: Lynn Bowden Jr. Carolina -> Houston: Tua trade Houston -> Carolina: Tua trade Carolina -> Eagles: Zach Ertz trade Indianapolis -> Las Vegas: Carr trade New England -> LA Chargers: Patrick Surtain Cleveland -> Chicago: Jarvis Landry trade Houston -> New Orleans: Lattimore trade
    • IF MN doesn't pick till tomorrow.....   With 111, the Chargers will select   iOL/C Quinn Meinerz   or OG Kendrick Green, if Meinerez is gone.    
    • With the 109th pick,    Chargers select LB Justin Hilliard from OSU.   Surprised he wasn't up higher on the big board. PFF has him as a late 2nd.     Minnesota Vikings and @coltsfanmurf are on the clock.
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