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Last year was his rookie year and he played in 15 games

yea dont know why i said his rookie season lol my bad. forgive me im supposed to be working lol but this trade talks get the best of you haha

 

point was he played hurt all season

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Trent Richardson rookie stats 2012

267 carries 950 yards. 3.6 average

You see what we already had going for us? Check Brown's yearly stats. It's not like we are ultra stacked at RB or anything.

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hey i already said im kinda confused im not sad angre nor happy im just like confused

 

i want him to suceed but i just have some questions about it. and it seems the browns have some questions about his health too.

 

Well like I said, he only missed one game last year and he seems healthy now. I don't think the Colts would have traded for a RB who currently have injury issues. 

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First Round O-Linemen, between picks 8-25 since 2008, that have made a ProBowl...Lupati(17),Pouncey(18),Mack (21), Clady(12) ( Duane Brown was 26).............4 in 4 years.....

 

First Round Def Players, between picks 8-25 since 2008, that have made a ProBowl...Watt, Kerrigan, Thomas, PierrePaul, Raji, Orakpo, Cushing, Mayo, DRC, Jenkins......10 in 4 years......

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Well like I said, he only missed one game last year and he seems healthy now. I don't think the Colts would have traded for a RB who currently have injury issues. 

yea lets hope for the best

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I don't put long term and running backs together

Long term I meant 3 years left on his deal rather than Bradshaw and brown free agents after this year. Him and Ballard are our backs for these next 3 years is what I meant. Now if they resign him after that is yet to be seen

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I like it. People don't realize that our oline ha even better at run blocking than the Browns as well as our own pass blocking. This puts a little fear in the opponent now and may help us dictate matchups better if teams are now forced to stack the box.

Yes it was a first rounder but as some have noted, if we finish even in the late teens to 20's it's a major steal. Lets also not forget that those first round picks aren't sure fire by any means (See Polian last 4 years of his tenure).

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I see what some people are saying about trading a first for a RB, but I don't think we should be convinced that we would get a superstar pass rusher or O-lineman with a first. Some players are just not tradable to teams.

 

Trent Richardson is one of the more valuable running backs in the league, so they needed to give a first.

 

I said it before I love this trade, but I wonder where Vick Ballard fits in next year. Bradshaw almost definitely going to be gone next year.

 

Split carries with Vick & Trent next year. Bradshaw will be splitting with him this year

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People want to make a big deal about his injuries.  Yes, he did play through injuries (many NFL players do), but he only missed one game.  Plus, Cleveland hasn't really been much of a threat in the passing game, so he has had to face 8-9 guys in the box all game.  Now, with a viable passing attack, he will be able to face fewer defenders in the box.  And if defenses stack the box, then Luck can audible

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What a great pick up for the Colts, only problem is that we have ZERO O line to open any holes for him.  It wouldn't have mattered if we had traded for A.P.

Colts currently have one of the best run blocking O-line per PFF. It was very evident in the Dolphins game.

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First Round O-Linemen, between picks 8-25 since 2008, that have made a ProBowl...Lupati(17),Pouncey(18),Mack (21), Clady(12) ( Duane Brown was 26).............4 in 4 years.....

 

First Round Def Players, between picks 8-25 since 2008, that have made a ProBowl...Watt, Kerrigan, Thomas, PierrePaul, Raji, Orakpo, Cushing, Mayo, DRC, Jenkins......10 in 4 years......

 

History can say many things, but you're never guaranteed or even have a good chance of getting a pro bowler. 

 

EDIT: I don't know if you were saying the odds are bad, or the odds are good. 

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I long ago made my feelings known on the value of running backs....and it's not much.

If Grigson was happy with a 5th rounder and a cheap FA, why spend a first on one?

Because they weren't cutting it really lol.

Honestly I don't know, but I agree a little on taking RBs first round, but only early. Late first rounds I'm okay with.

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I say we spend EVERY pick we have left on O-line & pass rush next draft. That's how we build the monster. Build the trenches :D

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I have not read through all 5 pages so apologies if I am saying something that has already been said. But this deal is a real head scratcher. A first rounder for a RB? Does Irasy really think the Colts are going to contend this year? Ballard will be back next year, right? Why give up the first rounder for this season? Could have used that on a stud OL.

Some good points. I like the trade but it does seem like a move for a team that is contending right now. I think the Colts are a year or two away , with some extra moves. Pretty exciting though for Colts fans.

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People want to make a big deal about his injuries.  Yes, he did play through injuries (many NFL players do), but he only missed one game.  Plus, Cleveland hasn't really been much of a threat in the passing game, so he has had to face 8-9 guys in the box all game.  Now, with a viable passing attack, he will be able to face fewer defenders in the box.  And if defenses stack the box, then Luck can audible

 

 

I honestly don't know any of their WR's since they got rid of J. Cribbs

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I have not read through all 5 pages so apologies if I am saying something that has already been said. But this deal is a real head scratcher. A first rounder for a RB? Does Irasy really think the Colts are going to contend this year? Ballard will be back next year, right? Why give up the first rounder for this season? Could have used that on a stud OL.

We need more than one new O lineman, with Trich we don't have to use any picks at all on a RB next year.  I do agree with you for the most part, but we might have a game changer at RB for the first time in nearly a decade, so I'll take it.

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First Round O-Linemen, between picks 8-25 since 2008, that have made a ProBowl...Lupati(17),Pouncey(18),Mack (21), Clady(12) ( Duane Brown was 26).............4 in 4 years.....

 

First Round Def Players, between picks 8-25 since 2008, that have made a ProBowl...Watt, Kerrigan, Thomas, PierrePaul, Raji, Orakpo, Cushing, Mayo, DRC, Jenkins......10 in 4 years......

 

Pro Bowl isn't necessarily a great marker of a good player. Andy Levitre didn't make the Pro Bowl last year, despite being one of the very best guards in the league.

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Jim Irsay acted like this trade was gonna make Colts fans love him. We should post this thread on his twitter.

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Anybody notice how stacked our skill positions are for the next few years?

 

Luck, Hilton, Wayne, Fleener, Allen, TRich, Ballard, maybe Da'Rick Rogers as well. 

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Pro Bowl isn't necessarily a great marker of a good player. Andy Levitre didn't make the Pro Bowl last year, despite being one of the very best guards in the league.

 

and conversely, Richie Incognito made it...

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Some good points. I like the trade but it does seem like a move for a team that is contending right now. I think the Colts are a year or two away , with some extra moves. Pretty exciting though for Colts fans.

It screams of desperation. Richardson does not have lightning speed either. I can think of other RBs I would rather have before him for a #1.

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It's all an upfront signing bonus. Payments might have been staggered, but they all go on the Browns cap, not ours.

 

I don't have any problem with Richardson, he's easily the best back we've had since young Edge, and he makes life easier on Luck and the receivers (I'm hoping). But I don't think any back is worth a first round pick. That's my philosophy, right, wrong or indifferent.

 

 

It's all an upfront signing bonus. Payments might have been staggered, but they all go on the Browns cap, not ours.

 

I don't have any problem with Richardson, he's easily the best back we've had since young Edge, and he makes life easier on Luck and the receivers (I'm hoping). But I don't think any back is worth a first round pick. That's my philosophy, right, wrong or indifferent.

 

 

 

So we'll have a cap hit averaging 2.2 million over the next 3 years. Almost too good to be true that the Browns would do this . I love the deal but maybe you're right as it almost smells that the Browns would give up the 3rd pick in the draft and eat around 10 mill in cap space doing it. 

 

Wow !!! Irsay was right with those ridiculous tweets.. this is an earth shaker.

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Pro Bowl isn't necessarily a great marker of a good player. Andy Levitre didn't make the Pro Bowl last year, despite being one of the very best guards in the league.

 

On the flip-side, Jeff Saturday made the pro-bowl last year despite being benched.

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Pro Bowl isn't necessarily a great marker of a good player. Andy Levitre didn't make the Pro Bowl last year, despite being one of the very best guards in the league.

Tedy Bruschi only made one pro bowl and was one of the best middle LBs in the game when he played.

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Jim Irsay acted like this trade was gonna make Colts fans love him. We should post this thread on his twitter.

I think more like than dislike at this juncture.

And many who aren't sure at least see the potential in the move.

Tweet it to Jimmy. I've always wanted a billionaire best friend.

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random tweets i have found

 

Grigson has surrounded Luck with TEs a RB, some young WRs, if they can develop some OL they have GREAT young OFF nucleus.

 

Trent Richardson didn't mesh well with Rob Chudzinski, lobbied for carries, had bit of a diva attitude, per a source close to situation

A Browns starter tells me: "It makes sense. Trent has some things he needs to figure out before he becomes a dominant player in the league."

 

Saban on Trent Richardson: "We never had anyone that contributed more to the team in terms of how he played and affected other people."

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Trent Richardson will be a beast here IMO because they can't just stack the box. We have Andrew Luck throwing the ball, not Brandon Weeden. They can't key in on Richardson or Luck will throw on them all day, spread the field to stop Luck, and we have Richardson to run the ball

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Just... Wow.

 

I always think the 1st round pick is something great but we already have some great weapons. Luck and our receiving core for example. We can always pick up other great players with our other picks to settle our O-Line or pass rush.

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Hmm, is it bad to have 2 Colts RBs on one FF team?

 

Does this mean they'll superimpose a Colts uni on him on the FF commercial?

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Well...No matter WHAT you could trade for 10 first round picks and I guarantee you SOMEONE on this forum would call it dumb! Can't please everyone...thank goodness GM's and Owner's don't take advice from forums :)

 

I love the trade, Bradshaw & Richardson in the backfield behind Luck?? I mean how the freak can't your mouth be watering right now because of that. I like it! Can't WAIT for Sunday's game!

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Yeah I see a few people making this good point too, he's very cheap especially considering the Browns take up a good amount of his cap space. 

 

His cap hit is:

1.3M for this year

2.25M for next year

3.18M for Year 3

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I honestly don't know any of their WR's since they got rid of J. Cribbs

Josh Gordon did well last year, and Jordan Cameron has been playing well so far.  And they also have Greg Little

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Anyone think the Browns will take Donald b for a 7th rounder. Hope Donald and not KW goes to practice squad. KW can't block any worse.

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Anybody notice how stacked our skill positions are for the next few years?

 

Luck, Hilton, Wayne, Fleener, Allen, TRich, Ballard, maybe Da'Rick Rogers as well.

I though they were building this team differently.....looks familiar to me.

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