antipatriot Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Garcon cant hold on to the ball and he cat block, he makes a couple of spectacular plays but then the important drop or no block. He should not last with us we need more reliability out of our recievers like reggie, dallas and austinJust my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoColts Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I agree. I am glad that someone in the national media has said something about his drops. Maybe it will pick up some steam. I have mentioned his drops over and over, but people just kind of ignore me for some reason. How many drops can you have before we look for someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 We should play Gonzo some heaven knows if we are going to get Brown some reps we can stick Gonzo out hre. Gonzo was a burner when he came into the league. It would be nice to see if he can still do it after the knee issues. If so maybe Gonzo should be out here and we should sit Garcon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbutton96 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Agreed. We should not resign Garcon this coming offseason! There are alot of good WR in the upcoming draft, several projected out of the first round as well. I like Ryan Broyles, WR from Oklahoma (5'11", 188 lbs). He's a very good receiver, is excellent running after the catch, and is an excellent return man. And we could get him in the 2nd, maybe even 3rd round. Check him out: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoColts Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 As it stands, I think that the overall offense is better with Garcon in there because defenses have to honor his speed. If you give him space, he will take it to the house. However, he rarely catches anything if he is covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racingpmp14 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 need a new what???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 This is what Garcon does, he drops one and then catches a huge TD pass, imange how good he would be if he could learn not to drop passes, he'd be one of the best deep men in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoColts Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 need a new what????Just because he scored a touchdown does not mean that we shouldn't be looking for his replacement. He has dropped a lot of balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antipatriot Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 Funny I mention Garcon and then all of a sudden he has a huge play. GO COLTS, however I still think he is a liability and we need a more reliable reciever, even if we keep him and move him down on the chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoColts Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 This is what Garcon does, he drops one and then catches a huge TD pass, imange how good he would be if he could learn not to drop passes, he'd be one of the best deep men in the NFL.It seems like he drops 4 or 5 then maybe a big play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racingpmp14 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Everybody has dropped a ball or two and I know he has dropped quite a few but just get rid of him already come on know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairleySuhper Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 His biggest problem is route running. Still not very good at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 His biggest problem is route running. Still not very good at it.His biggest problem is drops. I am not saying his route running is great but there have been several times he gets open and drops an easy one, normally on a very key play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 His biggest problem is route running. Still not very good at it.Nonsense. The vast majority of time I see him targeted, he is pretty well open. That has to be the result of decent route running.His biggest problem is clearly inconsistent hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairleySuhper Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 His biggest problem is drops. I am not saying his route running is great but there have been several times he gets open and drops an easy one, normally on a very key play.And the reason for that is his route running. He's often times not in the right position to catch the ball hence the drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoColts Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 And the reason for that is his route running. He's often times not in the right position to catch the ball hence the drops.Whether he is in position or not, he just drops the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 And the reason for that is his route running. He's often times not in the right position to catch the ball hence the drops.Most of the time it hits him right in the hands and he drops it, it can't be in a better spot for a WR. He normally makes the hard catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairleySuhper Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 My point is further proven by his 2nd TD run tonight. He ran the right route and good things happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 My point is further proven by his 2nd TD run tonight. He ran the right route and good things happened.What about the two routes he ran a good route and the ball hit him in the hands and he dropped it? The only thing I have seen from him tonight is him running the right route other than on the one play Painter went deep and he cut the route off, that happens to WRs now and then. Heck for all we know that could have been Painter who screwed that play up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Cannon Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Garçon is feast or famine..Despite all his drops hes a playmaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il vecchio Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 My point is further proven by his 2nd TD run tonight. He ran the right route and good things happened.A wider receiver screen is not much of a route. Had he been tackled right away would it have disproved your point, or that have been the wrong route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsLegacy Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 And the reason for that is his route running. He's often times not in the right position to catch the ball hence the drops.Stick to the Lions, friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_ Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 We should play Gonzo some heaven knows if we are going to get Brown some reps we can stick Gonzo out hre. Gonzo was a burner when he came into the league. It would be nice to see if he can still do it after the knee issues. If so maybe Gonzo should be out here and we should sit Garcon.Agreed. i wonder why Gonzo doesn't get more time. Agreed. We should not resign Garcon this coming offseason! There are alot of good WR in the upcoming draft, several projected out of the first round as well. I like Ryan Broyles, WR from Oklahoma (5'11", 188 lbs). He's a very good receiver, is excellent running after the catch, and is an excellent return man. And we could get him in the 2nd, maybe even 3rd round. Check him out:Agreed...Broyles can be an excellent slot receiver and outside receiver for the types of routes that Garcon runs. I agree with OP that I don't think we should re-sign Garcon. He's been way too consistently inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colts52761 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I'd rather have Travis Benjamin from the U! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsLegacy Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I'd rather have Travis Benjamin from the U!He's terrible. KR/PR is his only chance at the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colts52761 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 He is fast as heck, he doesn't have a good qb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsLegacy Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 He is fast as heck, he doesn't have a good qb!He is fast as heck and that's all he is. He'd be a HUGE downgrade from Garcon.And, yes, Jacory Harris is one of the worst QBs I've ever seen, but that doesn't make Benjamin a good WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakai432 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I like Garçon he had a great game today. He's still young, and even with his inconsistent hands he is still very solid. It's a love hate relationship with him. He makes great plays but the often drops wide open catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewholefnshow28 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Garcon is the most frustrating player on this team. He drops easy passes a lot, but then right when you just want to give up on him he makes a huge play and takes it to the house. Watching him in the open field after that screen pass showed how this guy can do things nobody in our WR core can. They just need to work on his hands and he could be a gem out there.I would still push him to the side for someone like Floyd or Ashlon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Colt Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Rich Cannon nailed it and when he drops them they are usually balls dumped right in his hands. Manning typically goes right back to him and he catches the second pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockywoj Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Just when you're ready to give up on Garcon for his easy drops, he comes back with an amazing catch or game breaking play.I think it is time to realize that Garcon is exactly what he is and will never be more. He is a very gifted, physical, game breaking threat that will always have lapses in concentration and too many easy drops. He's a tease because of his big play talent potential, but a disappointment because of his continued drops.Garcon is a number two receiver that can break a game open. Unfortunately, he will break a lot of hearts along the way.A legitimate new number one receiver will have to be found to replace Wayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler07 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Garcon does drop way to many passes, everytime the ball is thrown his way I hold my breathe. But I will have to say he is a playmaker and has made me jump up and cheer and say dang he's fast on several occasions. I agree that we should get a WR high in the draft that can make an immediate impact and hopefully take his spot, but I think we should keep him on the roster if we can sign him back for low enough to still keep other key players. I want to see Gonzo and White gone and would love to see Wayne, 1st or 2nd round draft pick, Collie, and Garcon. With these four and Dallas we would have a rly good receiving core in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorColts Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I was not able to watch the game, on a flight home, I saw he had two great plays, but then on the bottom line I saw he was targeted 8 times. Were the throws bad or did he drop those other passes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler07 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 He dropped 2, a few where uncatchable and the rest where caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Garcon cant hold on to the ball and he cat block, he makes a couple of spectacular plays but then the important drop or no block. Actually I think that he is a terrific blocker. He's extremely strong for his size and has shown repeated willingness to sacrifice himself downfield. He's also a terrific kid. I like everything about him aside from the drops.Frankly I thought that Gonzalez would have passed him on the depth chart by now. He was drafted to replace Marvin, and until the injuries started was heading in exactly that direction. If he is healthy he should be in the mix.It's also notable how ineffective Collie has been compared to last year. I'm trying to figure out if that reflects on the QB or if he is playing differently post-concussion. I haven't seen him bust a single decent completion up the middle. Last year he did it multiple times per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 He dropped 2, a few where uncatchable and the rest where caught.It's pretty bad when it's a good night for our starting WR because he only dropped two catchable balls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joo 2h Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 You guys got to remember. We didnt really lose anything on Garcon. He was not a 1 or 2 round pick. he still do have to work on his hands, but to just get rid of him would not make sense. He is getting better and better every year. We wont have to pay him a arm and a leg this offseason so why not keep working with him. Working on his hands is an easy fix, that any coach should be able to take care of. It just taking a little more time with him then other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeedrinker Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Just when you're ready to give up on Garcon for his easy drops, he comes back with an amazing catch or game breaking play.I think it is time to realize that Garcon is exactly what he is and will never be more. He is a very gifted, physical, game breaking threat that will always have lapses in concentration and too many easy drops. He's a tease because of his big play talent potential, but a disappointment because of his continued drops.Garcon is a number two receiver that can break a game open. Unfortunately, he will break a lot of hearts along the way.A legitimate new number one receiver will have to be found to replace Wayne.I will plus one this because this is what I've been saying since his 2nd year. He is going to make some explosive plays and have some great games and then he will have parts of games or entire games where he is a non factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltswarriors Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 When he gets into the open field he is absolutely deadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21isSuperman Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 If he could just work on his drops, he would be such a good WR. That's his only downfall. He is tough, runs routes well, fast, strong, has been in the offense and knows all the calls and audibles, he just drops easy passes. I wouldn't be against us bringing in someone as competition for him or trading him for a 3rd or 4th round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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