2012 Draft Order

[Quantum88]

The following is speculation on the 2012 draft order as it would exist now based on the NFL Power Poll. I realize that is about as accurate as a pea shooter at 500 yards in a swirling wind, but it is the best we have right now. It is taken directly from WalterFootball.com. I have added my comments as to whether or not teams would be interested in trading up to get the #1 pick to draft Luck. It is only focused on Luck, not some other player a team might think they need to have the #1 pick to get.

1. Seattle (1-2) - they have the pick in this case and would keep it to draft Luck.

2. Indianapolis (0-3) - would not trade up, but would trade down to acquire more picks.

3. Kansas City (0-3)- I think they would trade up.

4. Jacksonville (1-2) - would not (Picked up Gabbert in 2011)

5. Miami (0-3)- would trade up

6. Cleveland (2-1) - would not trade up

7 Cincinnati (1-2) - possibly would trade up

8. Arizona (1-2) - would not

9. Denver (1-2) - possible would

10. St. Louis (0-3)- would not

11. Minnesota (0-3) - possibly would

12. Tennessee (2-1)- would not

13. Carolina (1-2) - would not

14. Washington (2-1) - possibly would

15. Houston (2-1) - would not

16. Cleveland - from Atlanta (1-2) - would not

17. Chicago (1-2)- possibly would

18. Dallas (2-1)- possibly would

19. Oakland (2-1)- Al Davis would do anything so I refuse to speculate

20. Philadelphia (1-2) - Depends on Vicks health.

21. San Francisco* (2-1) - In a heartbeat since Harbaugh coached him.

22. San Diego* (2-1) - would not

23. Buffalo* (3-0) - would not

24. New York Giants* (2-1) - would not

25. Tampa Bay* (2-1) - would not

26. Detroit* (3-0) - would not

27. New York Jets* (2-1) - would not

28. Pittsburgh* (2-1) - would not

29. Baltimore* (2-1) - would not

30. New England - from New Orleans* (2-1)- would not

31. New England* (2-1) - would not

32 Green Bay* (3-0) - would not

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[pacolts56]

LOL on Al Davis...

The Top 10 looks very plausible....but anyone after the 3rd overall pick is going to have to pay HUGE compensation for the 1st overall if Luck continues to have a nice season.

The NFL trade value chart is a baseline for trading these picks...nut the 1st overall this year will probably have extra value.

http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php

[Jason_]

Loved the Al Davis comment. lol

the only team I disagree with is Buffalo. I do think they would give strong consideration to moving up. Fitzpatrick has been in the league a while now. He had a decent year last year but nothing flashy. He is off to a good start this year but I think this is his make or break year. If he keeps playing like he has the first 3 games then he could be safe, but if he begins to stumble and doesn't finish as strongly as he started then I think they would definitely consider moving up. So basically, I would consider them one of the "possibly would" teams.

[Quantum88]

LOL on Al Davis...

The Top 10 looks very plausible....but anyone after the 3rd overall pick is going to have to pay HUGE compensation for the 1st overall if Luck continues to have a nice season.

The NFL trade value chart is a baseline for trading these picks...nut the 1st overall this year will probably have extra value.

http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php

Good link.

Let's play out a scenario where the Colts end up with the #1 pick in the 2012 draft. It is worth 3,000 points.

Minnesota needs a QB and is around number 11 and wants to work a trade. I am not going after players in the trade, so they give us their first round pick in this year's draft - worth 1,250. They still owe us 1,750 so we get their second round pick in the 2012 draft - worth 470 points which means they still owe us 1,280 points. The chart does not say what a pick in the 2013 draft is worth, so let's assign it a value of 1,000 points (it is probably worth less). They give us their 2013 first round pick and a third round as well. This would leave us a little short in points, but would give us an additional second round pick in 2012, two first round picks and an additional third round pick in 2013. We could really build a major base for the end of Manning's career and the beginning of his replacement's.

[Jason_]

Good link.

Let's play out a scenario where the Colts end up with the #1 pick in the 2012 draft. It is worth 3,000 points.

Minnesota needs a QB and is around number 11 and wants to work a trade. I am not going after players in the trade, so they give us their first round pick in this year's draft - worth 1,250. They still owe us 1,750 so we get their second round pick in the 2012 draft - worth 470 points which means they still owe us 1,280 points. The chart does not say what a pick in the 2013 draft is worth, so let's assign it a value of 1,000 points (it is probably worth less). They give us their 2013 first round pick and a third round as well. This would leave us a little short in points, but would give us an additional second round pick in 2012, two first round picks and an additional third round pick in 2013. We could really build a major base for the end of Manning's career and the beginning of his replacement's.

Minnesota drafted Christian Ponder last year...something someone had to remind me of because I'd forgotten all about it. lol that said though I don't think the Vikes would make a huge move since they already took Ponder.

[Quantum88]

Minnesota drafted Christian Ponder last year...something someone had to remind me of because I'd forgotten all about it. lol that said though I don't think the Vikes would make a huge move since they already took Ponder.

Forgot that too. When you get to be my age, you have trouble with what happened this morning let alone what went on last April.

Let's look at Denver. We have 100 points less to work with, but I believe we can still make the trade and end up in just about the same place.

I don't believe that Fox really has plans for Tebow and neither do I.

[Jason_]

Forgot that too. When you get to be my age, you have trouble with what happened this morning let alone what went on last April.

Let's look at Denver. We have 100 points less to work with, but I believe we can still make the trade and end up in just about the same place.

I don't believe that Fox really has plans for Tebow and neither do I.

Hey don't feel bad...like I said, I'd forgotten all about Ponder too. It was in another thread where I basically was working on a similar list of potential trade partners and I included Minn as well. Someone else reminded me that they drafted Ponder. lol

Honestly, if we wind up with the #1 pick, I would try to make at least 2 trade downs. I think there will be a team in the top 5 who is so in love with Luck that they'll move up to take him as opposed to taking their chance on getting Landry Jones (very likely the #2 QB off the board) or whoever winds up the #3 ranked QB. I would move down to that spot in exchange for a minimum of their second round in 2012, first round in 2013 and whatever else we can squeeze from them.

Then I would take that #2-5 pick and trade down one more time to around 8-12. There are at least 5-10 highly projected impact players that teams, imo, will be willing to move up for. These include but are not limited to Quinton Coples, Alshon Jeffrey, Justin Blackmon (though I disagree), Donta Paige-Moss (maybe..personally haven't been very impressed with him), Vontaze Burfict, Matt Kalil etc. The one player who I would consider forgoing the second trade for would be Dre Kirkpatrick, but there will be some very talented lock down CB's in the later 1st round and 2nd round....Kirkpatrick just happens to be the best of the bunch. If we were to be able to make those deals, we would likely wind up with at least 2-3 picks in the second, third and or fourth rounds and there should be a lot of very solid talent in those rounds.