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Like I said not much difference.

 

Marginality is irrelevant. You said the South was a weaker than the East. or at least implied it. I'm glad your opinion is we only had success because our division is so weak especially compared to the big bad mighty East.

 

Numbers prove though the Pats have been feeding on a weaker division. Maybe not exponentially weaker, but still.

 

Also if you want to weight the record against division winners it gives the AFCS an extra win. Titans won in 2008 with 13-3 against our 12-4. So the South is 9 games better in 9 years. That an average of an extra win a season. One win is HUGE in the NFL.

 

Also like you requested I'll do every division. I'll weight them to the division winners.

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Also like you requested I'll do every division. I'll weight them to the division winners.

 

Fx, that is awfully kind of you to do :). But I think you proved your point. Personally, it is not worth bending over backwards for a Pats fan's request and doing the research for them, knowing that they are never going to see eye-to-eye with you, no matter what evidence you provide, especially the new annoying ones. :)

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Fx, that is awfully kind of you to do :). But I think you proved your point. Personally, it is not worth bending over backwards for a Pats fan's request and doing the research for them, knowing that they are never going to see eye-to-eye with you, no matter what evidence you provide, especially the new annoying ones. :)

 

Probably shouldn't, but it gives me an excuse to finally do something I have intended for a while.

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Also if you want to weight the record against division winners it gives the AFCS an extra win. Titans won in 2008 with 13-3 against our 12-4. So the South is 9 games better in 9 years. That an average of an extra win a season. One win is HUGE in the NFL.

 

 

 

Maybe I'm not following. But you mean 9 games in 9 years, split among three teams, correct? (Since you presented the numbers with records adjusted for the Colts/Pats.)

 

So wouldn't that be 1 game/year, split between the three, or an average of .33 wins/year difference?

 

I don't care about divisional strength all that much but to me that seems to define "marginal."

 

Like I said, maybe I'm not following though. I'm only marginally bright. ;)

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On topic...

 

The Bills - I'm starting to see a lot of offseason Bills love again. This happened last year as well. They certainly added a ton of speed on offense and I like Marrone and think he will do a nice job there. I can see the Bills being competitive but don't think they'll finish any better than 7-9 or 8-8. Not sold on their new QB either.

 

The Jets - What a white hot mess. Enough said. They're going to have a tough time winning six games (officially I'd predict 5-11). This team needs a complete and total overhaul, and to their credit, it seems like they're aware of that. This year and next might be painful for Gang Green fans though. They need a couple of fantastic drafts and good moves in free agency to restock their roster with some talent. Also not sold on the QB they took.

 

The Dolphins - For the first time in a while, it seems like they have an actual football plan in Miami. They've had some success over the last decade in certain years, but I think they mostly just stumbled into that. Now it seems like they've got more direction. I like Philbin and think he'll get them playing well. They've definitely added more than enough pieces to compete, so it's all a question of whether or not their coaching staff can make it all work. I like Tannehill, and I think they will be in the wildcard mix at 9-7 or maybe even 10-6.

 

 

Divisional strengths ebb and flow as the league evolves. It wasn't long ago that the NFC West was considered the JV version of the NFL. Now they're all good, competitive teams (even Arizona, IMO). And when you have entrenched teams like the Colts were with Manning and now are with Luck, and as the Patriots have been with Brady for the last decade-plus, it's harder for the other teams in the division to make up ground. I know from firsthand experience here... the Patriots played in the same division with Jim Kelly and Dan Marino for a long time.

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Maybe I'm not following. But you mean 9 games in 9 years, split among three teams, correct? (Since you presented the numbers with records adjusted for the Colts/Pats.)

 

So wouldn't that be 1 game/year, split between the three, or an average of .33 wins/year difference?

 

I don't care about divisional strength all that much but to me that seems to define "marginal."

 

Like I said, maybe I'm not following though. I'm only marginally bright. ;)

 

haha It'll be all explained better when I post my topic.

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Marginality is irrelevant. You said the South was a weaker than the East. or at least implied it. I'm glad your opinion is we only had success because our division is so weak especially compared to the big bad mighty East.

 

Numbers prove though the Pats have been feeding on a weaker division. Maybe not exponentially weaker, but still.

 

Also if you want to weight the record against division winners it gives the AFCS an extra win. Titans won in 2008 with 13-3 against our 12-4. So the South is 9 games better in 9 years. That an average of an extra win a season. One win is HUGE in the NFL.

 

Also like you requested I'll do every division. I'll weight them to the division winners.

 

 

When did I ever say the Colts success was tied to their division? The Colts and the Patriots would have been very good over the last 10 plus years regardless of the division they played it. What I said was there is ALMOST alway a relatively small spread percentage wise between the divisions. Most years it's about 40 percentage points overall W/L from best to worst. It 's over blown. Regardless you have to beat the very best teams in the playoffs.

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