Manning Under Pagano

[unitaswestand]

It would have been interesting had Peyton Manning played under a guy like Chuck Pagano. I know it has only been one year.  But Pagano seems to give the Colts that fighter mentality and toughness that I think has been missing since the 1995 Colts.  I know I will likely be attacked because the Colts won so many games with Manning at QB.   But I think if you take into consideration Manning's talent with the talent around him, they Colts underachieved.   Manning never had a combination of a balanced running attack with a solid defense.   The only stretch that every happened was the playoffs when they won the Super Bowl.

 

I have predicted that the Luck Colts will ultimately be more successful than the Manning Colts as far as Super Bowl wins.  And I think the reason why is because of the coaching and the strategy mindset.  Luck will be a major piece of a puzzle, where Manning basically had to carry everything.  I think Dungy was a bit overrated.  Great guy and good defensive coach, but as Jim Mora and Jim Caldwell showed, ANYONE would win as long as Manning was back there.

[colts_mp]

We don't even know IF Pagano is even a decent coach yet.  He was only in 4 or 5 games last year right?  We might have only made the playoffs 1/2 of the times we did if Pagano coached Manning.

[JoKeR]

I think Luck will win more SBs too with a balanced attack. Some of that will be because we were able to rebuild so quickly, without a rebuild mindset.

[Jason_]

It would have been interesting had Peyton Manning played under a guy like Chuck Pagano. I know it has only been one year.  But Pagano seems to give the Colts that fighter mentality and toughness that I think has been missing since the 1995 Colts.  I know I will likely be attacked because the Colts won so many games with Manning at QB.   But I think if you take into consideration Manning's talent with the talent around him, they Colts underachieved.   Manning never had a combination of a balanced running attack with a solid defense.   The only stretch that every happened was the playoffs when they won the Super Bowl.

 

I have predicted that the Luck Colts will ultimately be more successful than the Manning Colts as far as Super Bowl wins.  And I think the reason why is because of the coaching and the strategy mindset.  Luck will be a major piece of a puzzle, where Manning basically had to carry everything.  I think Dungy was a bit overrated.  Great guy and good defensive coach, but as Jim Mora and Jim Caldwell showed, ANYONE would win as long as Manning was back there.

 

I completely agree.  I think that, as successful as the Manning era was, it could have been even more successful with a better coaching staff and a different philosophy in terms of team personnel, primarily in regards to the OL and defense.

[IndyD4U]

There isn't any reason why we shouldn't of had 3-4 Lombardies during the Manning era. Sad when you think about it.

[TKnight24]

Really gotta stop putting the Peyton Manning threads in the "Colts Football" section of the forum. It always leads to trouble........ and I do mean ALWAYS

 

[JoKeR]

There isn't any reason why we shouldn't of had 3-4 Lombardies during the Manning era. Sad when you think about it.

Just doesn't work out that way when another team in your conference has a QB about as good as yours but was also balanced. Manning always had a chance against the Pats but it was almost always a slight mismatch.

[JoKeR]

Really gotta stop putting the Peyton Manning threads in the "Colts Football" section of the forum. It always leads to trouble........ and I do mean ALWAYS

Colts past + present= colts football

The subject has nothing to do with the Broncos

[jshipp23]

Everyone seems to be claiming Pagono as a great coach and Grigson as a genius...Luck willed and carried that team and we could have easily been 5-11 if not for late game heroics...Pagano was a great story, but no one can say he is or will be a great coach yet, and Luck would make any G.M look good and elevated the talent around him.

[TKnight24]

Colts past + present= colts football

The subject has nothing to do with the Broncos

 

To an extent. But still it causes problems & usually leads to the thread being locked

[JoKeR]

We could've won zero rings...

[jshipp23]

We underachieved miserably in the Manning Era, and should have had at least 3 Lombardis, but were outcoached and Manning choked consistently in the Playoffs. We had some young very talented teams that should have been all-time great teams.

[JoKeR]

To an extent. But still it causes problems & usually leads to the thread being locked

Don't cause any problems then ;)

[JoKeR]

We underachieved miserably in the Manning Era, and should have had at least 3 Lombardis, but were outcoached and Manning choked consistently in the Playoffs. We had some young very talented teams that should have been all-time great teams.

All-time great offense, above average defense at times.