No DBs, OL please.

[TKnight24]

I don't understand why people want a WR at #24 . What good is a WR, if the QB is being abused every play? A WR is only as good as his QB. I refuse to watch us do to our WR's what Arizona did to Fitzgerald. Great WR, but can't get the ball.

Take a lineman at #24. It's a million WR's in this draft. A million lineman too, so take the 2 lineman we need then grab a WR.

[FUNSMS]

one DB and are deffinse will dominate the league at least a top 3 deffinse

[throwing BBZ]

The Colts landed Gosder Cherilus and I'm hoping either Chance Warmack, or Jonathon Cooper is still on the board for the first round pick, if not then get D.J. Fluker.  Defensive backs are great but protect the quarterback is the name of the game for now, keep him healthy until he gets enough veteran savvy to let the Colts focus on other positions.

 

 

The Colts landed Gosder Cherilus and I'm hoping either Chance Warmack, or Jonathon Cooper is still on the board for the first round pick, if not then get D.J. Fluker.  Defensive backs are great but protect the quarterback is the name of the game for now, keep him healthy until he gets enough veteran savvy to let the Colts focus on other positions.

 

 All of your choices are not going to happen. What a waste.

[TKnight24]

All of your choices are not going to happen. What a waste.

How do you know his choices won't happen? Anything can happen on draft day. How do you know we don't trade into the top 10 & grab Warmack? Saying something won't happen is pointless cause any & everything can happen on draft day.

[HarassedOffTheSite]

I'll honestly be surprised if we go anywhere other than Oline with our first selection.

 

 

Why?

 

 

Sacked

4. Andrew Luck · IND 41

 

Sacked Yds Lost

5. Andrew Luck · IND 246

 

Fumbles

6.  Andrew Luck · IND 10  

 

Passes Intercepted

3. Andrew Luck · IND 18  

[throwing BBZ]

I don't understand why people want a WR at #24 . What good is a WR, if the QB is being abused every play? A WR is only as good as his QB. I refuse to watch us do to our WR's what Arizona did to Fitzgerald. Great WR, but can't get the ball.

Take a lineman at #24. It's a million WR's in this draft. A million lineman too, so take the 2 lineman we need then grab a WR.

 

So YOU THINK we must get a C & RG or Luck will be abused? Bo don`t know football.

Refuse to watch, hahahahahahahaha! Is this REAL?

I don't understand why people want a WR at #24 . What good is a WR, if the QB is being abused every play? A WR is only as good as his QB. I refuse to watch us do to our WR's what Arizona did to Fitzgerald. Great WR, but can't get the ball.

Take a lineman at #24. It's a million WR's in this draft. A million lineman too, so take the 2 lineman we need then grab a WR.

[Colts_Fan12]

I don't understand why people want a WR at #24 . What good is a WR, if the QB is being abused every play? A WR is only as good as his QB. I refuse to watch us do to our WR's what Arizona did to Fitzgerald. Great WR, but can't get the ball.

Take a lineman at #24. It's a million WR's in this draft. A million lineman too, so take the 2 lineman we need then grab a WR.

2 linemen?

[Tark The Shark]

No. It isn't. Stop trying to walk that dead dog of a out-of-context quote-mangle.

 

I did, I put the dog in the ground and buried it.

[HarassedOffTheSite]

one DB and are deffinse will dominate the league at least a top 3 deffinse

 

I dunno buddy. I like where we are with our DBs.

[Gavin]

I'll honestly be surprised if we anywhere other than Oline with our first selection.

I dont think Grigson would do that (stick to one position and one position only) he did not do that last year with the Corner he wanted when he got taken, He went and drafted another position entirely with his next pick (Who I believe might have been T.Y.). I obviously have no idea how Grigson and staff graded players and will set up his board of course, But just going by what the college to nfl drafting committee has they have 8 O Linemen Deemed as first round talent and 5 of them are Tackles and 3 Guards

[Colts_Fan12]

Sacked

4. Andrew Luck · IND 41

Sacked Yds Lost

5. Andrew Luck · IND 246

Fumbles

6. Andrew Luck · IND 10

Passes Intercepted

3. Andrew Luck · IND 18

We all know the line was terrible but wat I mean is why go linemen in the first unless cooper or warmack falls there's not a high chance but if they do then they may get them but if not dont reach for a linemen when we can get a linemen better then McGlynn in the 3rd plus if Ben is healthy he could play left guard he was 1st round talent but fell to the 2nd

[Dustin]

I dont think Grigson would do that (stick to one position and one position only) he did not do that last year with the Corner he wanted when he got taken, He went and drafted another position entirely with his next pick (Who I believe might have been T.Y.). I obviously have no idea how Grigson and staff graded players and will set up his board of course, But just going by what the college to nfl drafting committee has they have 8 O Linemen Deemed as first round talent and 5 of them are Tackles and 3 Guards

It was Allen who was picked after Hayward.

[HarassedOffTheSite]

We all know the line was terrible but wat I mean is why go linemen in the first............................?

 

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Sacked

4. Andrew Luck · IND 41

 

Sacked Yds Lost

5. Andrew Luck · IND 246

 

Fumbles

6.  Andrew Luck · IND 10  

 

Passes Intercepted

3. Andrew Luck · IND 18  

[Colts_Fan12]

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Nvm you don't get it there is no need to go linemen in the 1st we already got 2 spot with FA and LT is filled as well like I said unless its warmack or cooper then no dumb to reach when we can get a RG in the 3rd not to mention as I said if Ben ijalana plays

[HarassedOffTheSite]

Nvm you don't get it

 

no...YOU don't get it.

[TKnight24]

So YOU THINK we must get a C & RG or Luck will be abused? Bo don`t know football.

Refuse to watch, hahahahahahahaha! Is this REAL?

Yep, exactly what I think. Unless everyone wants Satele back at C. Now if Shipley plays C, then we just need a RG

[Colts_Fan12]

no...YOU don't get it.

Plz explain Cherlius isn't getting replaced Thomas isn't getting replaced castanzo isn't getting replaced more then likely Satelle isn't either so we need 1 spot on the o line for a starter cooper and warmack will be gone and also there are good guards late in the draft always is some of the best o linemen come late rounds or UDFA and for the 1000th time we have Ben ijalana aswell who they like he would play RG our line is already better form the FA additions you act like its horrible before we even play

[Colts_Fan12]

Yep, exactly what I think. Unless everyone wants Satele back at C. Now if Shipley plays C, then we just need a RG

I'm really hoping that Shipley plays Satele sucks

[TKnight24]

2 linemen?

Yes, 2 lineman. Unless like I said, Shipley plays C then we only need one lineman

[TKnight24]

I'm really hoping that Shipley plays Satele sucks

Everyone on this forum thinks that. But for some reason, the coaches see otherwise

[Colts_Fan12]

Yes, 2 lineman. Unless like I said, Shipley plays C then we only need one lineman

Agreed I would love to start Shipley and then next year cut Satele lol

[Colts_Fan12]

Everyone on this forum thinks that. But for some reason, the coaches see otherwise

Yeah it even showed that when Shipley was playing that he was better the Setele

[TKnight24]

Yeah it even showed that when Shipley was playing that he was better the Setele

The entire oline was better. We were able to run the ball & everything

[Colts_Fan12]

The entire oline was better. We were able to run the ball & everything

Exactly I think he could turn out to be a good center with the new players we got if we got a RG no reason our line couldn't be one of the better ones in the NFL

[BOTT]

I dont think Grigson would do that (stick to one position and one position only) he did not do that last year with the Corner he wanted when he got taken, He went and drafted another position entirely with his next pick (Who I believe might have been T.Y.). I obviously have no idea how Grigson and staff graded players and will set up his board of course, But just going by what the college to nfl drafting committee has they have 8 O Linemen Deemed as first round talent and 5 of them are Tackles and 3 Guards

Who/what is the college to nfl drafting committee?

[HarassedOffTheSite]

"Cherlius isn't getting replaced Thomas isn't getting replaced..."

 

Those are the only things you said that are rooted in any reality.

 

Last year's Oline was stop-gap. That's it. And anyone who doesn't instinctively understand that is not playing with a full deck. If there is a better player on the board at 24 than the one's we already have (which there will be) then I will be suprised if we do not make that selection.

[HarassedOffTheSite]

Also just for general consumption....anyone pinning any offensive line hope on the return and implied acceptable performance of Ben Ijalana should log off now and never return.

 

Really?

[Colts_Fan12]

Those are the only things you said that are rooted in any reality.

Last year's Oline was stop-gap. That's it. And anyone who doesn't instinctively understand that is not playing with a full deck. If there is a better player on the board at 24 than the one's we already have (which there will be) then I will be suprised if we do not make that selection.

I think if warmack or cooper fall then we take them but I just don't see Grigson passing on a good player at another position for a guard that isn't a 1st round talent they could trade down tho but I also believe castanzo is gonna get another year at least and he will prolly improve

[Colts_Fan12]

Also just for general consumption....anyone pinning any offensive line hope on the return and implied acceptable performance of Ben Ijalana should log off now and never return.

Really?

There are many ppl who think Ben is good we kept him for a reason no reason to doubt him when he hasn't even done anything if he can't then fine but if he does lots of ppl will be happy

[Superman]

I don't understand all this angst over what position our drafted player(s) play. Grigson was very explicit in his explanation of how he drafts. You can agree or disagree with his approach, but he was very clear about what exactly his approach is. I don't see why anyone would expect that to have changed.

[Insert Colts Pun Here]

I've seen recent mocks with Fluker as high as 12 and as low as 28. A couple had the Colts taking him at 24. His projections are kind of all over the place. And with the greater potential for first day trades this year, I think it's impossible to narrow down where a player like that will go.

It certainly is. I am, by no means, saying that he definitely won't be there. Just that I, personally, think he goes higher.

[Insert Colts Pun Here]

I don't understand why people want a WR at #24 . What good is a WR, if the QB is being abused every play? A WR is only as good as his QB. I refuse to watch us do to our WR's what Arizona did to Fitzgerald. Great WR, but can't get the ball.

Take a lineman at #24. It's a million WR's in this draft. A million lineman too, so take the 2 lineman we need then grab a WR.

Luck won't be abused next season though will he? We're one guard away from having a good offensive line.

[DarkHorseColts]

For all of us (yes, me too) who think the Colts 'must' pick player X or position Y, especially in the first round... just be prepared to be disappointed if/when they don't pick the player/position you wanted.

[HarassedOffTheSite]

I don't understand all this angst over what position our drafted player(s) play. Grigson was very explicit in his explanation of how he drafts. You can agree or disagree with his approach, but he was very clear about what exactly his approach is. I don't see why anyone would expect that to have changed.

 

Unless of course there's a Cornerback available, correct? ;)

[Superman]

Unless of course there's a Cornerback available, correct? ;)

 

Not at all. That's what I don't know if you got from our little interaction; maybe you did and I'm being obtuse. I'm not gung-ho on the idea of taking a corner in the first round. I'm just not adamantly opposed to it, especially not on the basis of it being a need or not. It's surprising to me that some are.

 

There are some common sense exceptions to the whole BPA strategy: we're not drafting a quarterback or a tight end in the first round, based on our roster, and we're not drafting a running back, fullback or specialist, based on value. But I think there are guys with impact / playmaker potential at virtually every other position -- cornerback, offensive line, defensive line, pass rusher, receiver, even safety (although any safeties available at #24 probably won't have first round ratings). Among those positions, I think Grigson's decision is going to come down to his assessment of those players, and he'll take the one he has rated highest. I think a cornerback could easily be in play there, and I don't think it's a position that Grigson would avoid drafting in the first round.

 

If he has a corner and a lineman available and rated very closely at the top of his board, then I'd expect him to lean toward whatever he considers to be the biggest need, which is probably the lineman. So if it came down to Fluker and Rhodes, he'd probably go with Fluker. And I think that would be the best decision in that case, even though I really like Rhodes as a prospect. Not only would I expect Fluker to start, but he'd be a bigger upgrade at RG than Rhodes would be over Butler at CB3. But for the most part, I expect Grigson to take players based on his ratings, not based on roster need. And that's because he said that's what he intends to do.

[buccolts]

Player, Draft Position

Reggie Wayne, #30

Hakeem Nicks, #29

Kenny Britt, #30

Jordy Nelson, #36

Dwayne Bowe, #23

Chad Johnson, #36

Greg Jennings, #52

Roddie White, #27

Anquan Boldin, #54

 

Just sayin'

 

Calvin Johnson was the 2nd overall pick and AJ Green 4th overall. Tough to get that kind of value at #24, sure that would great to have a WR like the aforementioned duo, but at the current pick I think that Oline would be better value.

[BigDaddy19]

Player, Draft Position

Reggie Wayne, #30

Hakeem Nicks, #29

Kenny Britt, #30

Jordy Nelson, #36

Dwayne Bowe, #23

Chad Johnson, #36

Greg Jennings, #52

Roddie White, #27

Anquan Boldin, #54

 

Just sayin'

 

I wasn't saying that value couldn't be found at #24, just that it was tough. If I go back and cherry pick I can find great players at every pick in the draft. Generally skill players are taken higher in the draft, thus at other positions better value can be found in the latter part of the round.

[Superman]

I wasn't saying that value couldn't be found at #24, just that it was tough. If I go back and cherry pick I can find great players at every pick in the draft. Generally skill players are taken higher in the draft, thus at other positions better value can be found in the latter part of the round.

 

If Grigson's worried about value, then he'll trade out of #24. I don't know if he's open to that or not; I think he's more of a trade up guy than a trade down guy. But if he stays at #24, I'd expect him to take his highest rated player, without regard for supposed value. Within reason, of course.

[Deathiltis]

I'd bet that none of those 3 guys are still on the board when we pick.

 

That's exactly the problem. I think Colts fans are slightly overestimating where our Offensive Line is right now. But the problem is I don't think any Offensive Lineman worthy of a 1st Round pick will fall to 24.

[unitaswestand]

I hope we go OLine as well. I think we now have 3 solid players on the OLine, but having two below average is a killer.   The Oline is only as good as its weakest link.   I would love it very much if Cooper fell to us.  That would really solidify our line for years to come.