Indy005 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I think with the amount of moves we've made in the free agency the first draft pick truly has become best player available for some of the positions we want to upgrade. Those positions are (in no particular order): WR, OG, DE, DT, OLB, ILB, CB, and S. Where we draft, these players are possibilities to be available. WR: Keenan Allen, Tavon Austin, DeAndre Hopkins, Justin Hunter OG: Chance Warmack, Jonathan Cooper (highly unlikely either of these two last to our pick but crazier things have happened, Justin Pugh DE: Damontre Moore, Datone Jones, Bjoern Werner, Barkevious Mingo, Cornellius Carradine, Ezekiel Ansah, Margus Hunt, Sam Montgomery DT: Jesse Williams, Kawann Short, Johnathan Hankins, Sylvester Williams, Sheldon Richardson, Star Lotolelei(his health risks could bring him towards our pick otherwise he's a top 5-10 talent) OLB: Jamie Collins, Alec Ogletree ILB: Kevin Minter, Arthur Brown, Manti Teo CB: Desmond Trufant, Xavier Rhodes (Almost no chance he'll last this late), Jonathan Banks S: Matt Elam, Kenny Vaccaro, Eric Reid Theres other players also of these positions, the ones Ive listed are the ones that could warrant a first round pick. Some could be Top 15 talent, others are somewhat borderline first rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Why do you have 3-4 OLBers under the DE and the OLB categories, and an ILB under OLB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy005 Posted March 16, 2013 Author Share Posted March 16, 2013 Why do you have 3-4 OLBers under the DE and the OLB categories, and an ILB under OLB? Some websites listed them that way. Same for the ILB, some had them OLB like Ogletree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfanatic24 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 WR and OG are the biggest needs on the team so the BPA for either one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 WR and OG are the biggest needs on the team so the BPA for either one.That would be a horrible drafting strategy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfanatic24 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 That would be a horrible drafting strategyWell going by your draft strategy what if Vaccarro falls to us who has a grade of 94 and Hunter grade of 90 we would draft Vaccarro just because he's a few points higher.We already have 2 great safeties, why would we do that makes no sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Shaw Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 First time i agree with Blood. BPA in general is whats going to happen. They have someone drop to them they love they will pull the trigger. I could see ILB, OLB, WR, OG, FS SS,or even CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Shaw Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Well going by your draft strategy what if Vaccarro falls to us who has a grade of 94 and Hunter grade of 90 we would draft Vaccarro just because he's a few points higher.We already have 2 great safeties, why would we do that makes no sense?How, when Betheas contract is up next year ? More cost efficient, and might be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfanatic24 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 How, when Betheas contract is up next year ? More cost efficient, and might be better Bethea is a pro bowl caliber safety and is only 28 he wouldn't cost as much as Landry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Shaw Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Bethea is a pro bowl caliber safety and is only 28 he wouldn't cost as much as Landry.What if Bethea wants to test the market, or get paid like a probowler ? IMO bethea is only a little above average and i have posted the stats and my opinions to make a agruement. He could easily be replaced if we decide to go safety, More of a ballhawk guy, let landry play near the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfanatic24 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 So we draft Vaccarro to sit on the bench behind Bethea and Landry. I understand going for BPA but not when there are bigger needs like WR and LG. We would still have the money to pay Bethea next year because of the great rookie wage scale. Wouldn't have to pay Luck until year 4 by then Mathis,Redding,Wayne will all be gone clearing more cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Bethea is good but if we had to he could probably be replaced especially in this draft where Safety is loaded, But no need to replace him, he had a good BUT not great year last year. I'd pick up a FS as an Undrafted FA by the name of Brandan Bishop, he is a ballhawk and a heavy hitter from NC State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Well going by your draft strategy what if Vaccarro falls to us who has a grade of 94 and Hunter grade of 90 we would draft Vaccarro just because he's a few points higher.We already have 2 great safeties, why would we do that makes no sense?And that's how the Blazers ended up with Sam Bowie instead of Micheal Jordan. What if grigson thinks Vaccaro is the next Ed Reed and all the available receivers are nothing more than solid starters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfanatic24 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 And that's how the Blazers ended up with Sam Bowie instead of Micheal Jordan. What if grigson thinks Vaccaro is the next Ed Reed and all the available receivers are nothing more than solid starters?That's also how the Blazers ended up with Oden instead of Durant. Oden was rated higher and they drafted him because of his great defense over Durant great offense. No matter if it's NBA,NFL,MLB,NHL, a great offense will always beat a great defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 That's also how the Blazers ended up with Oden instead of Durant. Oden was rated higher and they drafted him because of his great defense over Durant great offense. No matter if it's NBA,NFL,MLB,NHL, a great offense will always beat a great defense. Sorry, but that sentence of yours that I put into bold is not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheNeckBeard Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Justin Hunter is not ready to plug in and play decents number of snaps in the NFL, He's a lot like Brazil, a play here and there, he needs work but has potencial, he's a 2nd rounder. We need a #2 receiver, not another "potencial" guy, we have some of those already (Kelley, Palmer, Brazil, Sambrano, Whalen) none of them caught an NFL pass yet(except Brazil), and I see Hopkins and Keenan Allen NFL ready, we can plug'em and be the #2 without a lot of pressure for 2 years and then become our #1 when Reggie decides to step away. Now that the Vikes got Jennings i see one of these guys be available, Hopkins is solid, but Allen can be great, we have to see him in his pro day what he ran, if he's in the high 4.4's being 6'3, i'll take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 That's also how the Blazers ended up with Oden instead of Durant. Oden was rated higher and they drafted him because of his great defense over Durant great offense. No matter if it's NBA,NFL,MLB,NHL, a great offense will always beat a great defense.I don't see the comparison....they took who they thought was the better player and because of knee problems he didn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPM_Colt Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 If we go WR I want Hopkins. But I believe him and Allen will both be very good picksJustin Hunter is not ready to plug in and play decents number of snaps in the NFL, He's a lot like Brazil, a play here and there, he needs work but has potencial, he's a 2nd rounder. We need a #2 receiver, not another "potencial" guy, we have some of those already (Kelley, Palmer, Brazil, Sambrano, Whalen) none of them caught an NFL pass yet(except Brazil), and I see Hopkins and Keenan Allen NFL ready, we can plug'em and be the #2 without a lot of pressure for 2 years and then become our #1 when Reggie decides to step away. Now that the Vikes got Jennings i see one of these guys be available, Hopkins is solid, but Allen can be great, we have to see him in his pro day what he ran, if he's in the high 4.4's being 6'3, i'll take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog2012 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 FWIW Mayock doesn't believe that Hopkins will be selected in the 1st but thinks he will be great value if taken later. Maybe if they trade back that might be an option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I don't see any good enough guards to use the pick on, assuming Warmack and Cooper are gone... Same goes for OLB... (although pass rushers are always an option) We don't need a DE (we have plenty of depth guys on the roster) We don't need an ILB... ( we have a solid rotation there) We need another corner for depth.. (but it doesn't have to be a first round guy) Same with safety.. I honestly think we are going to take one of the tall, quick receivers that seem to be hanging around the bottom of the first and the top of the second in most mocks... The big question is whether or not other teams will overdraft skill position players, which might mean a stud drops to us.... I do think that we should go BPA... we could use depth at many positions and could stand to get younger at several others (DE, Rush LB, WR) Right now it looks like of the 5 best players that will be available to us, 3 of them will be wideouts... I'm happy with our FA signings and really feel as though Grigson has the option to take whoever is at the top of his board... I just really want this WCO hybrid deal to work out so I am pulling for a mauling guard and an outside receiver to really round out the offense.. Its probably not in the cards, but I'd also (in light of our FA moves) like to see a pass-catching RB come to Indy.. Le'veon Bell seems like a perfect fit, but RB is a position that the FO is probably pretty comfortable with.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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