Many notable Nfl free agents whom would make a nice spot in indy LONG ARTICLE

[typhoon2285]

I know we will not be able to afford everybody on this list and some of this might be a little inaccurate but to my knowledge we have 47-52 but ive heard up to 60milion, for the sake of this article ill say 50mil this offseason and it should be spent smartly since every team required to actually spend 89 percent of the unadjusted cap number whatever that means.

But quick roster check:

QB: luck and Stanton
RB:Vick Ballard, Donald Brown, Delone Carter, Robert Hughes deji karim, Mewelde Moore
WR:Donnie Avery   LaVon Brazill Austin Collie T.Y. Hilton  Nathan Palmer ReggieWayne  Griff Whalen
TE: Dwayne Allen Coby Fleener Weslye Saunders
C:  Mike McGlynn Samson Satele A.Q. Shipley
G : Seth Olsen Joe Reitz
T:  Anthony Castonzo Tony Hills Ben Ijalana Winston Justice Jeffrey Linkenbach Bradley Sowell
DE: Clifton Geathers Lawrence Guy Fili Moala Cory Redding
DT: Josh Chapman Kellen Heard Ricardo Mathews Brandon McKinney Drake Nevis
NT: Antonio Johnson Martin Tevaseu
LB: Pat Angerer Kavell Conner A.J. Edds Moise Fokou Jerrell Freeman Dwight Freeney Mario Harvey
-----Justin Hickman Jerry Hughes Scott Lutrus Robert Mathis Jamaal Westerman
CB: Darius Butler Vontae Davis Josh Gordy Jerraud Powers Cassius Vaughn teddy williams
S: Antoine Bethea Sergio Brown Delano Howell Joe Lefeged Tom Zbikowski
KPLS: Adam Vinatieri Pat McAfee Matt Overton

 

That is alot of people, And now heres are teams F/a's:

Donnie Avery, Darius Butler, Moise Fokou, Clifton Geathers, Josh Gordy, Mario Harvey, Justin Hickman. Tony Hills, Antonio Johnson, Winston Justice, Deji Karim, Jeff Linkenbach, Pat McAfee, Mewelde Moore, Matt Overton, Drew Stanton, Martin Tevaseu, Cassius Vaughn, Jamaal Westerman,A.Q Dwight Freeney. Austin Collie, Jerraud Powers, a.j adds. fili moala, joe reitiz, seth olsen

 

Lets get my insight quick here with whom we should keep then ill post a list of all the notiable F/as that can help our team, ill ethir put DROP or the amount i think they should get:

 

Avery (2yrs 4mil) Butler (2YRS 3MIL) Fokou (DROP) Cliftion (drop) Josh ( 1yr500k) Mario (DROP) Justin(DROP) Tony(DROP) Antonio (Paycut 1.5mil)  Winston (demote to backup 1mil) Deji (keep for ST 500k) Jeff (drop) Pat (10mil 5yrs) Moore (DROP) Matt (keep 750k) Drew Stanton (drop nd bring up harnish from PS) Martin (drop) Cassius(DROP!) jammall (2yrs 1.5mil) A.Q (1yr 400k) Dwight ( Drop he'll cost to much, unless he comes back for 3milish) Collie (drop) Powers (15mil 4yrs) a.j (500k) Moala (2yrs5mil) joe (1yr600k) Seth(1yr400k)

 

These signings add up to about 16mil

 

Also kill the contracts of: D.brown, brazil, & williams gives $2.5 extra and i know this is gonna hurt but drop adam V. and that will free up another 2mil for a total of 4.5 saved, lets getta rookie kicker ive seen great success with rookie kickers this year.

 

$36.5 to spend on F/a's heres a list of whats needed after resignings and drops:

 

All postions needed 1-2 W/r (1 starter and backup) - 1OT( decent starter) 1OG (we should just have a good starter) NT (a real one to stop the run) 1-2CB( good ones) 1ROLB (starter) 1-2 inside LB( one to start)  1RB (maybe a good one)

 

Notable F/a's per postion

RB's--- Peyton Hillis Chris Ivory Rashard Mendenhall Javon Ringer

W/R--- bowe or jennings Mike Wallace Devery Henderson Domenik Hixon Emmanuel Sanders victor cruz

OT-----Long, clady, or brandon Albert Sam Baker Jermon Bushrod Jason Smith

Center----Todd McClure Jeff Faine

Gaurds- Chilo Rachal  or Andy Levitre Louis Vasquez Brandon Moore

DL - Henry Melton Terrance Knighton Randy Starks Alan Branch Jason Jones Israel Idonije Corey Williams Shaun Cody Sedrick Ellis Isaac Sopoaga DL Trevor Scott

LB's--Paul Kruger Connor Barwin rey Maualuga Paris Lenon Daryl Smith Erin Henderson Frank Zombo Keith Rivers Larry Foote Shaun Phillips DeAndre Levy

DB's- DRC, Pat chung, Leodis McKelvin Jairus Byrd Sam Shields Rashean Mathis Derek Cox Aqib Talib Stevie Brown Antoine Cason Kyle Arrington Tracy Porter Mike Jenkins Charlie Peprah Cary Williams D.J. Moore

 

PEOPLE WHO COULD BE CUT BY OTHER TEAMS DUE TO CAP PROBLEMS AND WHAT THIER EXPECTED TO BE PAID IN 2013:

 

DL--- Jonathan Babineaux($6mil) Ray Edwards(6mil), DL Domata Peko ($3.7) DL Elvis Dumervil ($12)DL Antonio Smith ($6)DL Tyson Jackson ($14.72)DL Tommy Kelly ($6.5)DL Will Smith ($10)
RB---- DeAngelo Williams ($4.75) RB Chris Johnson ($10)“Beanie” Wells ($1.1575
OT-- Jordan Gross ($8.7) OT Doug Free ($7)
DB--- Chris Gamble ($7.9)DB Terrell Thomas ($750k + $6 option + $1.5 roster)DB Antrel Rolle ($7 + $250k workout)DB Corey Webster ($7 million)DB Michael Huff ($8)DB Nnamdi Asomugha ($15, $4m guarnte)DB Carlos Rogers ($5.5 + $250k bonus + $100k workout)DB DeAngelo Hall ($7.5)DB Josh Wilson ($3.9)DB Roman Harper ($5.25)DB Jason Allen ($4.1?)DB Kerry Rhodes ($4.5, voidable)DB Dunta Robinson ($8, $3 guar.)
LB--- D.J. Williams ($6)LB A.J. Hawk ($4.9 + $300k roster bonus)LB Curtis Lofton ($1.1 + $5m roster bonus, base guar.)johnathon vilma (6mil)LB Thomas Davis ($4.25 + $500k option)LB Jon Beason($5.25)
TE Jermichael Finley ($4.45 + $3.5m roster bonus)
OG Chris Snee ($6.45)
WR Sidney Rice ($8.5)

 

 

Some of these people will obviously not be cut but i think 50% will.

So we have 36.5 left to spend lets see who i think we should waste that money on:

 

RB: I think we should sign Peyton hillis at RB he had a bad season with KC and was paid 1 year 3 mil there so i think we can get him for somthing like that: 4yrs 10mil = 2.5 per year------ Or chris ivory for the same price tag.

 

W/R:  if you go back to last year VJAX signed a 5 year 55mil deal mainly because he was the best w/r on the market and that market sucked so we shouldnt base it off that. brandon marshal and Andre Johnson average 9mil per year and marcus colsten gets 7per year none of the 4 top w/r on the block deserve it, Bowe and wallace both have attitude problems but its extremly unlikely that they will be franchised becuase the tender on wallace last year and bowe had the tag the year before, and green bay already announced jennings is unlikly to be brought back, but cruz is likely to get tagged.So this leaves us with 3, and my judgment says mike wallace the 26 year old should get 6 years 42 mil = 7per year

 

OT-  this depends on what happens with the panthers id love jordan gross for maybe 2yrs 8mil but they have to cut him for that but hes 33 years old and cost a lot so its possible, otherwise jason smith as a back up plan at RT for 1yr 1.5mil.

 

OG- face it buffalos ethir gonna franchise byrd or Adam, its gonna be to hard to tell so id say Louis Vasquez from SD he gets injured often so he shuldnt cost a pretty penny im thinking 5 years 18 mil= 3.6 per year..... and if he doesnt work out Brandon Moore who will be 33 by next season and he makes 2.7 mil now and hes getting older so its less. so im thinkin 2yrs-5mil= 2.5mil a year

 

LB-- Paul Kruger Connor Barwin i want them both. Paul Kruger gets 6yrs- 27.5 mil = 4.5mil

LB2- Connor Barwin hes very good so ill see 7yrs 35mil= 5mil, this seems a little low for an average salary for these two but think of this lance briggs makes a lil over 5 mil per year, while shaun phillips averages 4.40 a year these are two huge names LB's and james harrison only makes 6.7 mil and he was a top LB

 

CBs--- one guy and he'll be cheap Rashean Mathis 1 year 2 mil should do it, or Sam Shields and id give him the same deal as jarraurd powers, 15mil-4 years- 3.75 or we can afford both, rashean is all we need to be a playoff team or vonte, shields, powers and butler are a very good 4 cbs

 

S--- reading much about the market value of safteys this season its pretty low because of the many on the market this year and an example of a good saftey Thomas DeCoud, FS, Falcons 5 years, $17.5 ---- thts what he was paid last year, and mock drafts have us getting a saftey in the first round so how about we get patrick chung whos equivalant to thomas and just as young for roughly the same price 5yrs 18mil = 3.6 per year AND if we got pat chung. we can cut tom zib which frees more money$$

 

 

after all my blabing the high smount is 34mil added up from all these aquisitions making us still have 2.5 left plus whatever the cap growth is this year the only postion i wasnt able to address was DL but we should be able to do that in the draft i mean if we want we can probably afford Corey Williams to a small deal and draft a great End in the 1st. But what do you guys like about my offseason predictions it took mad long lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ThorstenDenmark]

Great post, and I like your ideas.

 

Really hope we land a very good player in the off season, not a big name, but just a difference maker.

[scootermac23]

Massive kudos on the post. Your brain must be fried after that!

One thing I really disagree with is you saying kill Lavon Brazill's contract. Needs more chances and will prove himself.

All in all tho, I would love to see this offseason

[haseo15]

Why would you kill Brazil's contract.when he's got chances to play he been good and flashed his talent.

[GoColtsGo5150]

I know we will not be able to afford everybody on this list and some of this might be a little inaccurate but to my knowledge we have 47-52 but ive heard up to 60milion, for the sake of this article ill say 50mil this offseason and it should be spent smartly since every team required to actually spend 89 percent of the unadjusted cap number whatever that means.

But quick roster check:

QB: luck and Stanton

RB:Vick Ballard, Donald Brown, Delone Carter, Robert Hughes deji karim, Mewelde Moore

WR:Donnie Avery   LaVon Brazill Austin Collie T.Y. Hilton  Nathan Palmer ReggieWayne  Griff Whalen

TE: Dwayne Allen Coby Fleener Weslye Saunders

C:  Mike McGlynn Samson Satele A.Q. Shipley

G : Seth Olsen Joe Reitz

T:  Anthony Castonzo Tony Hills Ben Ijalana Winston Justice Jeffrey Linkenbach Bradley Sowell

DE: Clifton Geathers Lawrence Guy Fili Moala Cory Redding

DT: Josh Chapman Kellen Heard Ricardo Mathews Brandon McKinney Drake Nevis

NT: Antonio Johnson Martin Tevaseu

LB: Pat Angerer Kavell Conner A.J. Edds Moise Fokou Jerrell Freeman Dwight Freeney Mario Harvey

-----Justin Hickman Jerry Hughes Scott Lutrus Robert Mathis Jamaal Westerman

CB: Darius Butler Vontae Davis Josh Gordy Jerraud Powers Cassius Vaughn teddy williams

S: Antoine Bethea Sergio Brown Delano Howell Joe Lefeged Tom Zbikowski

KPLS: Adam Vinatieri Pat McAfee Matt Overton

 

That is alot of people, And now heres are teams F/a's:

Donnie Avery, Darius Butler, Moise Fokou, Clifton Geathers,(all depth)Josh Gordy, Mario Harvey, Justin Hickman. Tony Hills, Antonio Johnson, Winston Justice(back up), Deji Karim(returner), Jeff Linkenbach, Pat McAfee, Mewelde Moore, Matt Overton, Drew Stanton, Martin Tevaseu, Cassius Vaughn, Jamaal Westerman,A.Q Dwight Freeney(freeney for a smal contract). Austin Collie, Jerraud Powers(for a cheap contract), a.j adds. fili moala, joe reitiz, seth olsen

 

Lets get my insight quick here with whom we should keep then ill post a list of all the notiable F/as that can help our team, ill ethir put DROP or the amount i think they should get:

 

Avery (2yrs 4mil) Butler (2YRS 3MIL) Fokou (DROP) Cliftion (drop) Josh ( 1yr500k) Mario (DROP) Justin(DROP) Tony(DROP) Antonio (Paycut 1.5mil)  Winston (demote to backup 1mil) Deji (keep for ST 500k) Jeff (drop) Pat (10mil 5yrs) Moore (DROP) Matt (keep 750k) Drew Stanton (drop nd bring up harnish from PS) Martin (drop) Cassius(DROP!) jammall (2yrs 1.5mil) A.Q (1yr 400k) Dwight ( Drop he'll cost to much, unless he comes back for 3milish) Collie (drop) Powers (15mil 4yrs) a.j (500k) Moala (2yrs5mil) joe (1yr600k) Seth(1yr400k)

 

These signings add up to about 16mil

 

Also kill the contracts of: D.brown, brazil, & williams gives $2.5 extra and i know this is gonna hurt but drop adam V. and that will free up another 2mil for a total of 4.5 saved, lets getta rookie kicker ive seen great success with rookie kickers this year.

 

$36.5 to spend on F/a's heres a list of whats needed after resignings and drops:

 

All postions needed 1-2 W/r (1 starter and backup) - 1OT( decent starter) 1OG (we should just have a good starter) NT (a real one to stop the run) 1-2CB( good ones) 1ROLB (starter) 1-2 inside LB( one to start)  1RB (maybe a good one)

 

Notable F/a's per postion

RB's--- Peyton Hillis Chris Ivory Rashard Mendenhall Javon Ringer

W/R--- bowe or jennings Mike Wallace Devery Henderson Domenik Hixon Emmanuel Sanders victor cruz

OT-----Long(or) clady, or brandon Albert Sam Baker Jermon Bushrod Jason Smith

Center----Todd McClure Jeff Faine

Gaurds- Chilo Rachal  or Andy Levitre Louis Vasquez Brandon Moore

DL - Henry Melton Terrance Knighton Randy Starks Alan Branch Jason Jones Israel Idonije Corey Williams Shaun Cody Sedrick Ellis Isaac Sopoaga DL Trevor Scott (Arthur Jones from Ravens)

LB's--Paul Kruger Connor Barwin rey Maualuga Paris Lenon Daryl Smith Erin Henderson Frank Zombo Keith Rivers Larry Foote Shaun Phillips DeAndre Levy

DB's- DRC, Pat chung, Leodis McKelvin Jairus Byrd Sam Shields Rashean Mathis Derek Cox Aqib Talib Stevie Brown Antoine Cason Kyle Arrington Tracy Porter Mike Jenkins Charlie Peprah Cary Williams D.J. Moore

 

PEOPLE WHO COULD BE CUT BY OTHER TEAMS DUE TO CAP PROBLEMS AND WHAT THIER EXPECTED TO BE PAID IN 2013:

 

DL--- Jonathan Babineaux($6mil) Ray Edwards(6mil), DL Domata Peko ($3.7) DL Elvis Dumervil ($12)DL Antonio Smith ($6)DL Tyson Jackson ($14.72)DL Tommy Kelly ($6.5)DL Will Smith ($10)

RB---- DeAngelo Williams ($4.75) RB Chris Johnson ($10)“Beanie” Wells ($1.1575

OT-- Jordan Gross ($8.7) OT Doug Free ($7)

DB--- Chris Gamble ($7.9)DB Terrell Thomas ($750k + $6 option + $1.5 roster)DB Antrel Rolle ($7 + $250k workout)DB Corey Webster ($7 million)DB Michael Huff ($8)DB Nnamdi Asomugha ($15, $4m guarnte)DB Carlos Rogers ($5.5 + $250k bonus + $100k workout)DB DeAngelo Hall ($7.5)DB Josh Wilson ($3.9)DB Roman Harper ($5.25)DB Jason Allen ($4.1?)DB Kerry Rhodes ($4.5, voidable)DB Dunta Robinson ($8, $3 guar.)

LB--- D.J. Williams ($6)LB A.J. Hawk ($4.9 + $300k roster bonus)LB Curtis Lofton ($1.1 + $5m roster bonus, base guar.)johnathon vilma (6mil)LB Thomas Davis ($4.25 + $500k option)LB Jon Beason($5.25)

TE Jermichael Finley ($4.45 + $3.5m roster bonus)

OG Chris Snee ($6.45)

WR Sidney Rice ($8.5)

 

 

Some of these people will obviously not be cut but i think 50% will.

So we have 36.5 left to spend lets see who i think we should waste that money on:

 

RB: I think we should sign Peyton hillis at RB he had a bad season with KC and was paid 1 year 3 mil there so i think we can get him for somthing like that: 4yrs 10mil = 2.5 per year------ Or chris ivory for the same price tag.

 

W/R:  if you go back to last year VJAX signed a 5 year 55mil deal mainly because he was the best w/r on the market and that market sucked so we shouldnt base it off that. brandon marshal and Andre Johnson average 9mil per year and marcus colsten gets 7per year none of the 4 top w/r on the block deserve it, Bowe and wallace both have attitude problems but its extremly unlikely that they will be franchised becuase the tender on wallace last year and bowe had the tag the year before, and green bay already announced jennings is unlikly to be brought back, but cruz is likely to get tagged.So this leaves us with 3, and my judgment says mike wallace the 26 year old should get 6 years 42 mil = 7per year

 

OT-  this depends on what happens with the panthers id love jordan gross for maybe 2yrs 8mil but they have to cut him for that but hes 33 years old and cost a lot so its possible, otherwise jason smith as a back up plan at RT for 1yr 1.5mil.

 

OG- face it buffalos ethir gonna franchise byrd or Adam, its gonna be to hard to tell so id say Louis Vasquez from SD he gets injured often so he shuldnt cost a pretty penny im thinking 5 years 18 mil= 3.6 per year..... and if he doesnt work out Brandon Moore who will be 33 by next season and he makes 2.7 mil now and hes getting older so its less. so im thinkin 2yrs-5mil= 2.5mil a year

 

LB-- Paul Kruger Connor Barwin i want them both. Paul Kruger gets 6yrs- 27.5 mil = 4.5mil

LB2- Connor Barwin hes very good so ill see 7yrs 35mil= 5mil, this seems a little low for an average salary for these two but think of this lance briggs makes a lil over 5 mil per year, while shaun phillips averages 4.40 a year these are two huge names LB's and james harrison only makes 6.7 mil and he was a top LB

 

CBs--- one guy and he'll be cheap Rashean Mathis 1 year 2 mil should do it, or Sam Shields and id give him the same deal as jarraurd powers, 15mil-4 years- 3.75 or we can afford both, rashean is all we need to be a playoff team or vonte, shields, powers and butler are a very good 4 cbs

 

S--- reading much about the market value of safteys this season its pretty low because of the many on the market this year and an example of a good saftey Thomas DeCoud, FS, Falcons 5 years, $17.5 ---- thts what he was paid last year, and mock drafts have us getting a saftey in the first round so how about we get patrick chung whos equivalant to thomas and just as young for roughly the same price 5yrs 18mil = 3.6 per year AND if we got pat chung. we can cut tom zib which frees more money$$

 

 

after all my blabing the high smount is 34mil added up from all these aquisitions making us still have 2.5 left plus whatever the cap growth is this year the only postion i wasnt able to address was DL but we should be able to do that in the draft i mean if we want we can probably afford Corey Williams to a small deal and draft a great End in the 1st. But what do you guys like about my offseason predictions it took mad long lol.

 

From all the people I put in bold I would like to sign in the off-season, it is a lot yes, but let's face it I want all this players in a colts uniform next year. I didn't have us taking a guard because with our line I thought it could look like this: Long (LT), Castanzo (LG- at the draft I remember Mike Mayock saying he has played in other positions on the line and has done well at it+ Charlie Johnson was a LT here but the vikings moved him to LG), Satele/Shipley ( C), Chance Warmack,Johnathan Cooper or Larry Warford ( RG), andOday Aboushi(OT from Virginia at RT).

 

Great job by the way on this post  

 

 

 

 

[typhoon2285]

thanks guys

[gbrads_rants]

Man i love this post...email this to Grigs!!!

[typhoon2285]

do u guys think the prices i gave to the F/as ive chosen is fair?

[typhoon2285]

and does anybody know the actual cap we have this year?

[typhoon2285]

[John Dee]

I see Richard Seymour is a FA?   He will be 34 next October but he is still playing at a very high level.      I think bringing him in for a  year or two would be great to pair with Redding and Fili (if we bring him back),  Chapman, McKinney, and Johnson?

 

Starks from Miami would be nice too.   Dang that would be a pretty stout DL if every one would stay healthy.

 

Add 2 or 3 OLmen via FA.

 

Use the draft to hit OLB in round 1 and 3.

[John Dee]

According to this ...   46m...

 

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/46144/looking-at-2013-cap-situations

 

That is a lot of dough.....

 

and does anybody know the actual cap we have this year?

[throwing BBZ]

Jibberish

[John Dee]

Leave WR alone...       Wallace will want at least 10m per...   And Jennings and Bowe will want to get paid also.

 

I'd love to have Welker but he just want too much.

 

Kruger and Barwin would be ok at those numbers (kinda high to me).   Although I would prefer to hit OLB and DB in the draft hard.   Lots of good ones.

 

I would attack the CB, OL  and DE positions in FA.

 

do u guys think the prices i gave to the F/as ive chosen is fair?

[NewColtsFan]

The linked story to Kuharsky was interesting....    here are the two paragraphs that jumped out at me....

 

 

But the initial list of free agents to-be doesn’t have me thinking he can necessarily hit a jackpot. 

From this link you can get position-by-position lists from Pro Football Focus. Most or all of the restricted free agents will get tenders and not be able to move. And of the guys heading to restricted free agency, some will re-sign and some will get franchise tagged. 

 

As I've been saying here for a while....   the list so far known of available free agents just doesn't 'wow' me...  and now Kuharsky is saying the same thing.    Also, the hyper-link to the John Clayton story reveals that Cleveland just moved past us with the amount of Cap Money to spend.    While we have $46 Mill,  the Clayton story says the Browns have nearly $49 Mill.    That means we will likely have competition for certain FA's....    and of course, other teams with less money will likely target 1 or 2 players that we're interested in as well..

 

Here is the link to the Clayton story on team salary cap money available.  

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8822266/nfl-mailbag-carryover-rules-impact-cap-strategy

 

Says Indy $46 Mill and Cleveland 48.9 Mill.     For what it's worth, a story in the Indy story a day or two ago reported our available salary cap figure as $47 Mill.    I would think that came directly from the Colts,  so that's the figure I'd go on until something else concrete comes along.

 

Great off-season is under way....   but it won't get juicy until March when Free Agency officially kicks off...

[HtownColt]

There's only five teams in the league who are projected to have over $30 million in cap space and two of them reside in the AFC North. The Bengals have the most projected cap room in 2013 with $55.1 million. The team with the second-most cap room in the NFL is the Browns, who are projected to have $48.9 million. Indianapolis ($46 million), Miami ($35.8 million) and Tampa Bay ($31.3 million) round out the top five

[Carlos Danger]

I wonder how many FA the Bengals and Browns need to resign this offseason... that could also affect the numbers. While our list of pending FAs is long, most are expendable.

[sultan5]

.......wow. alot of those guys will stay home. some wont but time will obviously tell. anyone would love to come to indy so that works in our favor on the F/A market. I think we should hit the draft more than anything. Your prices and guesstimations are so funny man. You really put alot of effort into this. There will be trades and soforth as well. ........do us a favor and dont e-mail this to the Indy front office. just dont. Im sure they know our finances more than you do. Theres just so much hype on big names and while its all good to pay for talent, their team didnt keep them either. .....and Brazill?! really? He just started his rookie contract, man, give him some time! we have a crowded WR room right now. A for Effort though. Way to focus:)

[BrentMc11]

Jibberish

???????  Please elaborate.  I am interested in what these guys are saying and you too  Thanks.

[pacolts56]

Look at the Cowboys, the Saints and the Jets.....

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8822266/nfl-mailbag-carryover-rules-impact-cap-strategy

 

I'd target OLB Anthony Spencer for sure....Jerry is screwed on cap space and now that Rob Ryan has been fired Spencer might be fed up with things in Dallas....plus he's from Ft.Wayne/Purdue.

[Jay Kirk]

Leave WR alone...       Wallace will want at least 10m per...   And Jennings and Bowe will want to get paid also.

 

I'd love to have Welker but he just want too much.

 

Kruger and Barwin would be ok at those numbers (kinda high to me).   Although I would prefer to hit OLB and DB in the draft hard.   Lots of good ones.

 

I would attack the CB, OL  and DE positions in FA.

John im right with you on this,not really needing FA running backs either

[Malakai432]

I know we will not be able to afford everybody on this list and some of this might be a little inaccurate but to my knowledge we have 47-52 but ive heard up to 60milion, for the sake of this article ill say 50mil this offseason and it should be spent smartly since every team required to actually spend 89 percent of the unadjusted cap number whatever that means.

But quick roster check:

QB: luck and Stanton

RB:Vick Ballard, Donald Brown, Delone Carter, Robert Hughes deji karim, Mewelde Moore

WR:Donnie Avery LaVon Brazill Austin Collie T.Y. Hilton Nathan Palmer ReggieWayne Griff Whalen

TE: Dwayne Allen Coby Fleener Weslye Saunders

C: Mike McGlynn Samson Satele A.Q. Shipley

G : Seth Olsen Joe Reitz

T: Anthony Castonzo Tony Hills Ben Ijalana Winston Justice Jeffrey Linkenbach Bradley Sowell

DE: Clifton Geathers Lawrence Guy Fili Moala Cory Redding

DT: Josh Chapman Kellen Heard Ricardo Mathews Brandon McKinney Drake Nevis

NT: Antonio Johnson Martin Tevaseu

LB: Pat Angerer Kavell Conner A.J. Edds Moise Fokou Jerrell Freeman Dwight Freeney Mario Harvey

-----Justin Hickman Jerry Hughes Scott Lutrus Robert Mathis Jamaal Westerman

CB: Darius Butler Vontae Davis Josh Gordy Jerraud Powers Cassius Vaughn teddy williams

S: Antoine Bethea Sergio Brown Delano Howell Joe Lefeged Tom Zbikowski

KPLS: Adam Vinatieri Pat McAfee Matt Overton

That is alot of people, And now heres are teams F/a's:

Donnie Avery, Darius Butler, Moise Fokou, Clifton Geathers, Josh Gordy, Mario Harvey, Justin Hickman. Tony Hills, Antonio Johnson, Winston Justice, Deji Karim, Jeff Linkenbach, Pat McAfee, Mewelde Moore, Matt Overton, Drew Stanton, Martin Tevaseu, Cassius Vaughn, Jamaal Westerman,A.Q Dwight Freeney. Austin Collie, Jerraud Powers, a.j adds. fili moala, joe reitiz, seth olsen

Lets get my insight quick here with whom we should keep then ill post a list of all the notiable F/as that can help our team, ill ethir put DROP or the amount i think they should get:

Avery (2yrs 4mil) Butler (2YRS 3MIL) Fokou (DROP) Cliftion (drop) Josh ( 1yr500k) Mario (DROP) Justin(DROP) Tony(DROP) Antonio (Paycut 1.5mil) Winston (demote to backup 1mil) Deji (keep for ST 500k) Jeff (drop) Pat (10mil 5yrs) Moore (DROP) Matt (keep 750k) Drew Stanton (drop nd bring up harnish from PS) Martin (drop) Cassius(DROP!) jammall (2yrs 1.5mil) A.Q (1yr 400k) Dwight ( Drop he'll cost to much, unless he comes back for 3milish) Collie (drop) Powers (15mil 4yrs) a.j (500k) Moala (2yrs5mil) joe (1yr600k) Seth(1yr400k)

These signings add up to about 16mil

Also kill the contracts of: D.brown, brazil, & williams gives $2.5 extra and i know this is gonna hurt but drop adam V. and that will free up another 2mil for a total of 4.5 saved, lets getta rookie kicker ive seen great success with rookie kickers this year.

$36.5 to spend on F/a's heres a list of whats needed after resignings and drops:

All postions needed 1-2 W/r (1 starter and backup) - 1OT( decent starter) 1OG (we should just have a good starter) NT (a real one to stop the run) 1-2CB( good ones) 1ROLB (starter) 1-2 inside LB( one to start) 1RB (maybe a good one)

Notable F/a's per postion

RB's--- Peyton Hillis Chris Ivory Rashard Mendenhall Javon Ringer

W/R--- bowe or jennings Mike Wallace Devery Henderson Domenik Hixon Emmanuel Sanders victor cruz

OT-----Long, clady, or brandon Albert Sam Baker Jermon Bushrod Jason Smith

Center----Todd McClure Jeff Faine

Gaurds- Chilo Rachal or Andy Levitre Louis Vasquez Brandon Moore

DL - Henry Melton Terrance Knighton Randy Starks Alan Branch Jason Jones Israel Idonije Corey Williams Shaun Cody Sedrick Ellis Isaac Sopoaga DL Trevor Scott

LB's--Paul Kruger Connor Barwin rey Maualuga Paris Lenon Daryl Smith Erin Henderson Frank Zombo Keith Rivers Larry Foote Shaun Phillips DeAndre Levy

DB's- DRC, Pat chung, Leodis McKelvin Jairus Byrd Sam Shields Rashean Mathis Derek Cox Aqib Talib Stevie Brown Antoine Cason Kyle Arrington Tracy Porter Mike Jenkins Charlie Peprah Cary Williams D.J. Moore

PEOPLE WHO COULD BE CUT BY OTHER TEAMS DUE TO CAP PROBLEMS AND WHAT THIER EXPECTED TO BE PAID IN 2013:

DL--- Jonathan Babineaux($6mil) Ray Edwards(6mil), DL Domata Peko ($3.7) DL Elvis Dumervil ($12)DL Antonio Smith ($6)DL Tyson Jackson ($14.72)DL Tommy Kelly ($6.5)DL Will Smith ($10)

RB---- DeAngelo Williams ($4.75) RB Chris Johnson ($10)“Beanie” Wells ($1.1575

OT-- Jordan Gross ($8.7) OT Doug Free ($7)

DB--- Chris Gamble ($7.9)DB Terrell Thomas ($750k + $6 option + $1.5 roster)DB Antrel Rolle ($7 + $250k workout)DB Corey Webster ($7 million)DB Michael Huff ($8)DB Nnamdi Asomugha ($15, $4m guarnte)DB Carlos Rogers ($5.5 + $250k bonus + $100k workout)DB DeAngelo Hall ($7.5)DB Josh Wilson ($3.9)DB Roman Harper ($5.25)DB Jason Allen ($4.1?)DB Kerry Rhodes ($4.5, voidable)DB Dunta Robinson ($8, $3 guar.)

LB--- D.J. Williams ($6)LB A.J. Hawk ($4.9 + $300k roster bonus)LB Curtis Lofton ($1.1 + $5m roster bonus, base guar.)johnathon vilma (6mil)LB Thomas Davis ($4.25 + $500k option)LB Jon Beason($5.25)

TE Jermichael Finley ($4.45 + $3.5m roster bonus)

OG Chris Snee ($6.45)

WR Sidney Rice ($8.5)

Some of these people will obviously not be cut but i think 50% will.

So we have 36.5 left to spend lets see who i think we should waste that money on:

RB: I think we should sign Peyton hillis at RB he had a bad season with KC and was paid 1 year 3 mil there so i think we can get him for somthing like that: 4yrs 10mil = 2.5 per year------ Or chris ivory for the same price tag.

W/R: if you go back to last year VJAX signed a 5 year 55mil deal mainly because he was the best w/r on the market and that market sucked so we shouldnt base it off that. brandon marshal and Andre Johnson average 9mil per year and marcus colsten gets 7per year none of the 4 top w/r on the block deserve it, Bowe and wallace both have attitude problems but its extremly unlikely that they will be franchised becuase the tender on wallace last year and bowe had the tag the year before, and green bay already announced jennings is unlikly to be brought back, but cruz is likely to get tagged.So this leaves us with 3, and my judgment says mike wallace the 26 year old should get 6 years 42 mil = 7per year

OT- this depends on what happens with the panthers id love jordan gross for maybe 2yrs 8mil but they have to cut him for that but hes 33 years old and cost a lot so its possible, otherwise jason smith as a back up plan at RT for 1yr 1.5mil.

OG- face it buffalos ethir gonna franchise byrd or Adam, its gonna be to hard to tell so id say Louis Vasquez from SD he gets injured often so he shuldnt cost a pretty penny im thinking 5 years 18 mil= 3.6 per year..... and if he doesnt work out Brandon Moore who will be 33 by next season and he makes 2.7 mil now and hes getting older so its less. so im thinkin 2yrs-5mil= 2.5mil a year

LB-- Paul Kruger Connor Barwin i want them both. Paul Kruger gets 6yrs- 27.5 mil = 4.5mil

LB2- Connor Barwin hes very good so ill see 7yrs 35mil= 5mil, this seems a little low for an average salary for these two but think of this lance briggs makes a lil over 5 mil per year, while shaun phillips averages 4.40 a year these are two huge names LB's and james harrison only makes 6.7 mil and he was a top LB

CBs--- one guy and he'll be cheap Rashean Mathis 1 year 2 mil should do it, or Sam Shields and id give him the same deal as jarraurd powers, 15mil-4 years- 3.75 or we can afford both, rashean is all we need to be a playoff team or vonte, shields, powers and butler are a very good 4 cbs

S--- reading much about the market value of safteys this season its pretty low because of the many on the market this year and an example of a good saftey Thomas DeCoud, FS, Falcons 5 years, $17.5 ---- thts what he was paid last year, and mock drafts have us getting a saftey in the first round so how about we get patrick chung whos equivalant to thomas and just as young for roughly the same price 5yrs 18mil = 3.6 per year AND if we got pat chung. we can cut tom zib which frees more money$$

after all my blabing the high smount is 34mil added up from all these aquisitions making us still have 2.5 left plus whatever the cap growth is this year the only postion i wasnt able to address was DL but we should be able to do that in the draft i mean if we want we can probably afford Corey Williams to a small deal and draft a great End in the 1st. But what do you guys like about my offseason predictions it took mad long lol.

Great post indeed, probably took a a lot of time and effort. Definitely like some of the ideas as well.

[Balzer40]

46 or 47 million is more than I even thought we had, but I would like to know how Cleveland got so much. It's been reported since last yr. that the Colts had way more money to spend than any other team. Good thing is that Cleveland has a very good O-line and has no reason to compete with us for O-line talent.

[Dark Superman]

Kruger wants $8 mil. A year..

[trailertrash]

Kruger wants $8 mil. A year..

No one is gonna give him 8mill/year. Not enough production. Let's try and get him at $7 Mill/year for 5 years with a nice bonus.

[trailertrash]

46 or 47 million is more than I even thought we had, but I would like to know how Cleveland got so much. It's been reported since last yr. that the Colts had way more money to spend than any other team. Good thing is that Cleveland has a very good O-line and has no reason to compete with us for O-line talent.

Cincinatti has even more at $55 Mill. 

[typhoon2285]

We are a couple of pieces away from becoming a top contender, kruger or barwin would be nice. We dont NEED both but we need one I love our inside LBs but we need a young outside talent. DT is huge need and I dont think Terrance Knighton or Corey Williams will be brought back next year and they are both very talented DTs we could scoup up. I probably was a bit harsh with brazil but to me he just drops a lot. I would love a big name with wayne so wallace, jennings, or bowe would be greatly appreciated and we have the money so why not, Obviously Oline needs a Improvment and With jordan gross's age and payment amount I think he will be cut and a great scoup up along with the guard I stated. I stcik by what I said at CB as well sam shields and rasheem mathis would be two great additions and raheem may not cost much. I love ballard but if we could get Hillis cheap I dont think many would argue with me there.

[JorokasXII]

Did anyone see this article on BR today? Looks like Grigson has his eye on another CFL guy.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1482959-cfl-star-armond-armstead-reportedly-drawing-interest-from-nfl

[BrentMc11]

Did anyone see this article on BR today? Looks like Grigson has his eye on another CFL guy. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1482959-cfl-star-armond-armstead-reportedly-drawing-interest-from-nfl

Yes there is a thread on it with video....good catch......

[typhoon2285]

we wont need a DT if we get him

[Dustin]

 I love ballard but if we could get Hillis cheap I dont think many would argue with me there.

 

 

I would. Hillis has had one good season. Why would we waste money on an fumble prone running back when we have one that is equal, if not better, for cheaper.

[Archer]

We don't need any new RBs.  We're fine with Ballard, Carter, Brown, and Karim (best KR we've had in years - I almost don't care if he can run the football).