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who?

Correction 13 guys:

Nobody

prestige worldwide

BodaciousBryce

MTC

SoCalColt

Peytonator

HungarianColtsFan

McGirt

Funktacious2

Colts7

shecolt

Coltsguy510

Warhorse

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You can take shecolt off that list. :) Here are my picks:

NE

INDY

NO

BUF

BALT

OAK

CIN

HOU

DAL

WAS

PITT

SD

SF

ATL


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ARI @ NE

MIN @ IND

NO @ CAR

KC @ BUF

BAL @ PHI

OAK @ MIA

CLE @ CIN

HOU @ JAC

DAL @ SEA

WAS @ STL

NYJ @ PITTS

TENN @ SD

DET @ SF

DEN @ ALT

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i think im supposed to say join? JOIN!!!!!

ARI @ NE

MIN @ IND

NO @ CAR

KC @ BUF

BAL @ PHI

OAK @ MIA

CLE @ CIN

HOU @ JAC

DAL @ SEA

WAS @ STL

NYJ @ PIT

TENN @ SD

DET @ SF

DEN @ ATL

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ARI @ NE

MIN @ IND

NO @ CAR

KC @ BUF

BAL @ PHI

OAK @ MIA

CLE @ CIN

HOU @ JAC

DAL @ SEA

WAS @ STL

NYJ @ PITT

TENN @ SD

DET @ SF

DEN @ ATL

Nobody

There ya go!

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ARI @ NE

MIN @ IND

NO @ CAR

KC @ BUF

BAL @ PHI

OAK @ MIA

CLE @ CIN

HOU @ JAC

DAL @ SEA

WAS @ STL

NYJ @ PIT

TENN @ SD

DET @ SF

DEN @ ATL

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:sigh: I'm 6-6.

I should have just picked all the home teams. Then, I would have been 10-2.

You and me both girl. If the G-men game counted though, I'd be above .500. haha

Seriously, who in their right mind would have picked the Cards to beat the Pats?

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:sigh: I'm 6-6.

I should have just picked all the home teams. Then, I would have been 10-2.

7 and 6. A Denver win would go a long way now.

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7 and 6. A Denver win would go a long way now.

Same here....7-6. I got barbecued today. WAS, BAL and OAK really put the screws to me.

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Same here....7-6. I got barbecued today. WAS, BAL and OAK really put the screws to me.

I think you all beat me..... I think I got maybe 5 right :sigh:

Any Given Sunday I'll get ya next week :goodluck:

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Also, I am officially off my Chiefs bandwagon. I thought they'd be beastly......I will put my foot in my mouth now.

I too am thinking about pouring out the Chief Kool-Aid. They are just not performing up to expectations...oh well. Maybe they'll try and trade for Barkley or Thomas next year.

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Week 2 Results (A few times have been corrected and Week 2's record is the 2nd brackett):

Andy (9-6) (8-6)

NE

MIN

CAR 1

BUF 1

BAL

OAK

CIN 1

HOU 1

DAL

STL 1

PITT 1

SD 1

SF 1

DEN

Nobody (10-5) (7-7)

ARI @ NE

MIN @ IND 1

NO @ CAR 1

KC @ BUF

BAL @ PHI

OAK @ MIA

CLE @ CIN 1

HOU @ JAC 1

DAL @ SEA

WAS @ STL

NYJ @ PITT 1

TENN @ SD 1

DET @ SF 1

DEN @ ATL

Gavin (10-5) (7-7)

ARI @ NE-W

MIN-W @ IND

NO-W @ CAR

KC @ BUF-W 1

BAL-W @ PHI

OAK-W @ MIA

CLE @ CIN-W 1

HOU-W @ JAC 1

DAL @ SEA-W

WAS @ STL-W 1

NYJ @ PITT-W 1

TENN @ SD-W 1

DET @ SF-W 1

DEN @ ATL –W 1

Gramz (11-4) (6-8)

ARI @ NE

MIN @ IND 1

NO @ CAR

KC @ BUF

BAL @ PHI

OAK @ MIA

CLE @ CIN 1

HOU @ JAC 1

DAL @ SEA

WAS @ STL

NYJ @ PITT 1

TENN @ SD 1

DET @ SF 1

DEN @ ATL

Prestige worldwide (8-7) (6-8)

ARI @ NE

MIN @ IND 1

NO @ CAR

KC @ BUF

BAL @ PHI

OAK @ MIA

CLE @ CIN 1

HOU @ JAC 1

DAL @ SEA

WAS @ STL

NYJ @ PITT 1

TENN @ SD 1

DET @ SF

DEN @ ALT 1

BodaciousBryce (12-3) (6-8)

NE

IND 1

NO

KC

BAL

OAK

CIN 1

HOU 1

DAL

WAS

PITT 1

SD 1

SF 1

DEN

MTC (9-6) (6-8)

ARI @ NE

MIN @ IND

NO @ CAR

KC @ BUF 1

BAL @ PHI

OAK @ MIA

CLE @ CIN 1

HOU @ JAC 1

DAL @ SEA

WAS @ STL

NYJ @ PITTS 1

TENN @ SD 1

DET @ SF 1

DEN @ ALT

JPPT1974 (8-7) (7-7)

NE

MIN

NO

BUF 1

BALT

OAK

CIN 1

HOU 1

DAL

WAS

PITT 1

SD 1

SF 1

ATL 1

QwizBoy (8-7) (7-7)

ARI @ NE

MIN @ IND 1

NO @ CAR

KC @ BUF

BAL @ PHI 1

OAK @ MIA

CLE @ CIN 1

HOU @ JAC 1

DAL @ SEA

WAS @ STL

NYJ @ PITT 1

TENN @ SD 1

DET @ SF 1

DEN @ ATL 1

Jvan1973 (9-6)

Colts 1

Chiefs

Bengals 1

Raiders

Patriots

Texans 1

Ravens

Saints

Redskins

Cowboys

Jets

Chargers 1

49ers 1

Broncos

SoCalColt (8-7)

The Peytonator (9-6)

Patriots

Colts 1

Saints

Chiefs

Ravens

Raiders

Bengals 1

Texans

Cowboys

Redskins

Steelers 1

Chargers 1

49ers 1

Broncos

HungarianColtsFan (9-6)

Colts Fan 4 Life (11-4)

Kansas City

Cincinnati 1

Indy 1

New Orleans

Houston 1

Miami 1

New England

Baltimore

Washington

Dallas

Pittsburgh 1

San Diego 1

San Fran 1

Denver

Coltsouth (8-7)

NE

IND 1

NO

BUF 1

BAL

OAK

CIN 1

HOU 1

DAL

STL 1

PITT 1

SD 1

SF 1

DEN

CjMcGirt23 (9-6)

Funktacious2 (9-6)

Teganslaw (8-7)

NE

IND 1

CAR 1

BUF 1

BAL

OAK

CIN 1

HOU 1

DAL

WAS

PIT 1

SD 1

SF 1

ATL 1

Andrew Luck12 (10-5)

NE

IND 1

NO

KC

BAL

OAK

CIN 1

HOU 1

DAL

WAS

PITT 1

SD 1

SF 1

DEN

MAC (10-5)

NE

IND 1

NO

BUF 1

BALI

OAK

CIN 1

HOU 1

DAL

WAS

PITT 1

SD 1

SF 1

DEN

Colts7 (12-3)

NE

MIN

NO

KC

BAL

OAK

CIN 1

HOU 1

DAL

STL 1

PIT 1

SD 1

SF 1

DEN

Danlhart87 (7-8)

chiefs at bills

panthers at saints 1

browns at Bengals 1

vikings at colts 1

texans at jaguars 1

raiders at dolphins

cardinals at patriots

ravens at eagles

cowboys at seahawks

redskins at rams

jets at steelers 1

titans at chargers 1

lions at 49ers 1

broncos at falcons

Shecolt (10-5)

NE

INDY 1

NO

BUF 1

BALT

OAK

CIN 1

HOU 1

DAL

WAS

PITT 1

SD 1

SF 1

ATL 1

Susie Q (10-5)

ARI @ NE

MIN @ IND

NO @ CAR 1

KC @ BUF 1

BAL @ PHI

OAK @ MIA

CLE @ CIN

HOU @ JAC 1

DAL @ SEA

WAS @ STL 1

NYJ @ PITT 1

TENN @ SD 1

DET @ SF

DEN @ ATL

Coltman51(8-7)

NE

IND 1

NO

KC

BAL

OAK

CIN 1

HOU 1

DAL

WAS

PITT 1

SD 1

SF 1

DEN

Ruksak (9-6)

NE

IND 1

CAR 1

KC

BAL

OAK

CIN 1

HOU 1

DAL

WAS

PITT 1

SD 1

SF 1

DEN

Coltsguy510 (10-5)

Warhorse (8-7)

Gandalf (10-5)

NE

IND 1

CAR 1

KC

BAL

OAK

CIN 1

HOU 1

DAL

WAS

PITT 1

SD 1

SF

DEN

Vance87 (8-7)

ARI @ NE

MIN @ IND 1

NO @ CAR

KC @ BUF

BAL @ PHI

OAK @ MIA

CLE @ CIN 1

HOU @ JAC 1

DAL @ SEA 1

WAS @ STL

NYJ @ PITT 1

TENN @ SD 1

DET @ SF 1

DEN @ ATL 1

Cujo

NE

IND 1

NO

KC

BAL

OAK

CIN 1

HOU 1

DAL

WAS

NYJ

SD 1

SF 1

DEN

MIColtsFan

ARI @ NE

MIN @ IND 1

NO @ CAR

KC @ BUF

BAL @ PHI

OAK @ MIA

CLE @ CIN 1

HOU @ JAC 1

DAL @ SEA

WAS @ STL

NYJ @ PITT 1

TENN @ SD 1

DET @ SF 1

DEN @ ATL

Long Island Colt

cheifs

Bengals 1

Colts 1

jaguars

raiders

patriots

ravens

cowboys

rams 1

steelers 1

chargers 1

49ers 1

falcons 1

lucktoflleenertd

NE Patriots

Colts 1

No saints

Kansas city chiefs

Baltimore ravens

Miami dolphins 1

Bengals 1

houton Texans 1

cowboys

redskins

pittsburgh steelers 1

titans

detroit

Denver

Holden89

ARI @ NE

MIN @ IND

NO @ CAR

KC @ BUF

BAL @ PHI

OAK @ MIA

CLE @ CIN 1

HOU @ JAC 1

DAL @ SEA

WAS @ STL 1

NYJ @ PIT

TENN @ SD 1

DET @ SF 1

DEN @ ATL

Blackhawk4

ARI @ NE

MIN @ IND

NO @ CAR 1

KC @ BUF 1

BAL @ PHI

OAK @ MIA

CLE @ CIN 1

HOU @ JAC 1

DAL @ SEA 1

WAS @ STL

NYJ @ PIT 1

TENN @ SD 1

DET @ SF 1

DEN @ ATL 1

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Week 2 Results:

Week 2 Results:

Teganslaw (9-5)

Blackhawk4 (9-5)

Andy (8-6)

Coltssouth (8-6)

Shecolt (8-6)

Vance87 (8-6)

Nobody (7-7)

Gavin (7-7)

JPPT1974 (7-7)

QwizBoy (7-7)

Colts Fan 4 Life (7-7)

MAC (7-7)

Danlhart87 (7-7)

Ruksak (7-7)

Long Island Colt (7-7)

Gramz (6-8)

Prestige Worldwide (6-8)

BodaciousBryce (6-8)

MTC (6-8)

Andrew Luck12 (6-8)

Colts7 (6-8)

Susie Q (6-8)

Coltman51 (6-8)

Gandalf (6-8)

MIColtsFan (6-8)

Jvan1973 (5-9)

The Peytonator (5-9)

Cujo (5-9)

Lucktoflleenertd (5-9)

Holden89 (5-9)

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Overall Standings:

BodaciousBryce (18-11)

Colts7 (18-11)

Shecolt (18-11)

Colts Fan 4 Life (18-11)

Andy (17-12)

Gramz (17-12)

Nobody (17-12)

Gavin (17-12)

Mac (17-12)

Teganslaw (17-12)

Andrew Luck12 (16-13)

Susie Q (16-13)

Vance87 (16-13)

Gandalf (16-13)

Ruksak (16-13)

Coltssouth (16-13)

MTC (15-14)

JPPT1974 (15-14)

QwizBoy (15-14)

Jvan1973 (14-15)

The Peytonator (14-15)

Prestige worldwide (14-15)

Coltsman51 (14-15)

Danlhart87 (14-15)

Coltsguy510 (10-5)

Blackhawk4 (9-5)

HungarianColtsFan (9-6)

CjMcgirt23 (9-6)

Funktacious2 (9-6)

SoCalColt (8-7)

Warhorse (8-7)

Long Island Colt (7-7)

MiColtsFan (6-8)

Cujo (5-9)

Lucktoflleenertd (5-9)

Holden89 (5-9)

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week 3

Giants at Panthers

Buccaneers at Cowboys

Jaguars at Colts

Bills at Browns

Jets at Dolphins

Chiefs at Saints

Bengals at Redskins

Rams at Bears

49ers at Vikings

Lions at Titans

Falcons at Chargers

Eagles at Cardinals

Steelers at Raiders

Texans at Broncos

Patriots at Ravens

Packers at Seahawks

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Overall Standings:

BodaciousBryce (18-11)

Colts7 (18-11)

Shecolt (18-11)

Colts Fan 4 Life (18-11)

Andy (17-12)

Gramz (17-12)

Nobody (17-12)

Gavin (17-12)

Mac (17-12)

Teganslaw (17-12)

Andrew Luck12 (16-13)

Susie Q (16-13)

Vance87 (16-13)

Gandalf (16-13)

Ruksak (16-13)

Coltssouth (16-13)

MTC (15-14)

JPPT1974 (15-14)

QwizBoy (15-14)

Jvan1973 (14-15)

The Peytonator (14-15)

Prestige worldwide (14-15)

Coltsman51 (14-15)

Danlhart87 (14-15)

Coltsguy510 (10-5)

Blackhawk4 (9-5)

HungarianColtsFan (9-6)

CjMcgirt23 (9-6)

Funktacious2 (9-6)

SoCalColt (8-7)

Warhorse (8-7)

Long Island Colt (7-7)

MiColtsFan (6-8)

Cujo (5-9)

Lucktoflleenertd (5-9)

Holden89 (5-9)

wasn't I 8-6 this week or am I miscounting

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Gandalf (16-13)

You didn't count my San Francisco pick as a win. I went 7-7 this week... and should be 17-12 overall.

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I counted 8 1's on mine

You didn't count my San Francisco pick as a win. I went 7-7 this week... and should be 17-12 overall.

Both of you guys are right. I have edited my word document, but I'm unable to edit the post I posted here.

Sorry about that.

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Giants

Cowboys

Colts

Bills

Jets

Saints

Redskins

Bears

49ers

Lions

Falcons

Cardinals

Steelers

Texans

Ravens

Packers

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Chicago

Cleveland

Tampa Bay

Detroit

Indy

Miami

San Fran

New Orleans

Cincinnati

Arizona

Atlanta

Houston

Pittsburgh

Baltimore

Green Bay

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Both of you guys are right. I have edited my word document, but I'm unable to edit the post I posted here.

Sorry about that.

No problem. You are doing one heck of a job, and it has to be tough keeping track of everything.

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Giants @ Panthers

Buccaneers @ Cowboys

Jaguars @ Colts

Bills @ Browns

Jets @ Dolphins

Chiefs @ Saints

Bengals @ Redskins

Rams @ Bears

49ers @ Vikings

Lions @ Titans

Falcons @ Chargers

Eagles @ Cardinals

Steelers @ Raiders

Texans @ Broncos

Patriots @ Ravens

Packers @ Seahawks

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