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21 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said:
Chud doesn't know what a short passing game is. O line can't block worth a crap and hes still calling too many long developing plays.
This^^^^ X 1000....I could not agree more. I'm starting to think he's never going to get it.
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4 minutes ago, TheMarine said:
To be fair: Venturi isn't wrong, but he's also not the coach of the colts designing their game plan. I appreciate TREMENDOUSLY his insight after a game and how he would do XYZ, but it's foolish to take it as "This is what the Colts are going to do" as he's not a coach for this team
Of course he's not the coach all he's doing is giving his ideas on some ways to get TY open. Chud needs all the ideas he can get cuz his play calling is straight
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3 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
You see the Colts not being able to finish and conclude it's mentally weak and falls on the coaching staff.
I see the Colts not being able to finish and conclude we're not very talented and that falls on the previous GM.
So, we see the same thing differently.
I see both. I see some good talent (or at least more talent than last year) and good coaching/game plan in the first half. Then the 2nd half rolls around and the coaches can't make any adjustments (or any that work), don't play guys that have shown they can help the team. Not putting guys in a position to where they can succeed. Play calling goes to crap in the 2nd half. Basically doing the same things that has not worked week after week after well you get my drift
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6 hours ago, a06cc said:
Remember you can only do some much with a guy who has hardly been here. That’s just how it is.
I might be in the minority here but the quarterback play, even with JB's limited time & knowledge of the playbook is not the problem.
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47 minutes ago, Shafty138 said:
I can completely see Chuck coaching out the year..... who's gonna replace him now? Chud? Philbin? Monachino? Sanjay Freakin Lal? there is no HC on the team, that's the problem....
That's the problem, even with Chuck on the team there still is no HC.
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5 minutes ago, John Waylon said:
Yeah, I hope it's just inexperience, but it's something that has played a role a couple of times now this season. It did against the Cards, the 49ers, and again tonight. When the pressure is on, he gets shy. I don't know how to cure that (nor do I believe our coaching staff does either) but something has to give.
I agree and would like to think its due to inexperience. Basically a rookie QB and keeping the Colts in the games. That's all you can ask for out of the backup. I would like to see the Colts RUN the ding dang ball more when up 2 scores. Make an adjustment any type of adjustment cuz the other coaches are and they are shutting him down. Also maybe try Mack at RB in the 2nd half. Sigh. Every game they get outcoached in the 2nd half.
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14 minutes ago, lance_m8 said:
Just chill out he has excelled with AL he has shown he cant cant a low laser beam once luck comes back he will be fine he is the least of our worries you can guarantee he will be the hardest worker this week and have 70 yards and a TD next week
I like Doyle but he's been awful this year minus the Cards game. I hope he tightens things up cuz the O needs him.
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18 hours ago, Buck Showalter said:
Yeah most the time we'd just play "home run derby" with tennis balls... You either hit them out of the neighborhood or not... We were sorta lazy kids, figured we didn't have to run or field the balls that way...
lol Yea we would play baseball with a tennis ball on the cul de sac where I lived. Used a tennis ball so we wouldn't break any windows. We spent 5 minutes on the name and just called it "tennis ball"
We would play everyday during the summer. Sometimes till the street lights came on. Man those were the good ole' day!!! 
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On 10/10/2017 at 9:02 PM, RockThatBlue said:
He is impressive. He put up 5 TDs on the Chiefs, and the Chiefs are one of the more talented defenses in the league
Watson has definitely shown lots of promise (picked him up in my fantasy league before the NE game woot woot lol) but he has also gone up against some the weaker D's when it comes to total yards and pass D...
1. NE - 447 Total ypg (32nd) 323 Pass ypg (32nd)
2. Tenn - 345 Total ypg (21st) 235 Pass ypg (24th)
3. KC - 366 Total ypg (27th) 248 Pass ypg (25th)
So I would like to see him go up against one of the better D's in the league first before really saying one way or the other. But wow 10 passing TD's in the past 2 games is still 10 TD's no matter who your playing
not to mention he's pretty good when running with the football to.
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3 hours ago, A8bil said:
We have no disagreement.
The only thing I question is the "15 touches" assumption. Through 5 games, I think there have been a total of 145 touches for the RBs, or 29 per game, including runs and passes. Unless you cut Turbin out totally (which I dont think you want to do in short yardage situations) or the offense gets significantly more prolific, there's only going to be around 10 touches for Mack. Cut anything more out of Gore and neither he r the o-line will establish any rhythm.
I agree with ya & definitely like to see Turbin in on every 3rd and short
The guy is just money in those situations. Yea I see your point on 15 touches but I was hoping for a couple passes headed his way. Anything to get Mack in the open field. I liked those stiff arms last Sunday 
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50 minutes ago, A8bil said:
Oh, I agree that the Colts need both, and I agree that Mack brings something to the table that the others do not. But, what you consider "negative nancy" I consider realism. Mack has had opportunities in every game he has played, and only last game when the 49ers repeatedly lost containment, did he make anyone "pay" for his speed. He's been bottled up far more than Gore has been (which is a consequence in part of running laterally when the line cannot prevent penetration), and frankly he's a liability in several respects right now, including pass blocking. Gore gaining 2-5 yds per carry may not be exciting, but consistently playing at 2nd and 5 or 8 is better than 2nd and 10 or 14, and the QB having an additional second when passing is often the difference between a sack and a completion. That's all...I want Mack to get opportunities, but again, intelligently, not in some pollyannaish view that he is something he is not.
I never said Gore wasn't great at pass blocking or getting those tough yards when there looks like there aren't any to get. Gore is the definition of a pro. I love Frank Gore. I never suggested that Mack should take carries away or for Mack to be the starter. But I would be lying if I said the change of pace isn't refreshing. I greatly appreciate ALL of what Frank brings to the table and all he contributes week in and week out. I also like what I see out of Mack and I don't see the problem getting him 15 touches per game. That's all I'm saying
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7 hours ago, A8bil said:
Oh, I agree that the Colts need both, and I agree that Mack brings something to the table that the others do not. But, what you consider "negative nancy" I consider realism. Mack has had opportunities in every game he has played, and only last game when the 49ers repeatedly lost containment, did he make anyone "pay" for his speed. He's been bottled up far more than Gore has been (which is a consequence in part of running laterally when the line cannot prevent penetration), and frankly he's a liability in several respects right now, including pass blocking. You may not be excited by Gore getting 3.5 yds, but consistently playing at 2nd and 5 or 8 is better than 2nd and 10 or 14, and the QB having an additional second when passing is often the difference between a sack and a completion. That's all...I want Mack to get opportunities, but again, intelligently, not in some pollyannaish view that he is something he is not.
I might be in the minority but I thought Mack played well in his first game of the season as well (minus the fumble in garbage time). Should of had another TD in that game. Nobody played particularly well in that game. Yes he did not play well vs Arizona (only had 6 carries) but as a unit the Colts didn't run the ball effectively in that game either. He has been out injured the last 2 games. So he has made something out of his opportunities in 2 of the 3 games he's played in. I'm not sure but I think your math is off
as I don't see how 3.2 ypc equals 2nd and 5? I have also seen Gore get stopped behind the line for a 1-2 yard loss and many no gains. I'm not going to lay blame on Gore (like you are Mack) though as that has more to do with the OLine. I never said Gore was bad at anything. I never said Mack was better. I just said they both play well off each other. So you know in 3 games what Mack is and what he isn't? lol ok I will intelligently agree to disagree
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This year I see Gore surpassing LT for 5th All-Time. It would be awesome to see him get past Curtis this year as that would also mean Gore provided another 1k rushing yard season but I think Gore would need to play one more season to move into 4th All-Time. Dude has been a beast for his entire career!
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1 hour ago, dgambill said:
I told someone the other day I think he actually runs/plays like Reggie Bush. He just kinda reminds me of him. I was excited he got playing time but concerned he was already nicked up again on that last run....does anyone know his status he was really holding that arm.
I believe I read that he hurt his elbow on that run but expects to play Monday night.
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On 10/11/2017 at 12:14 AM, A8bil said:
Mack is the most athletic and fastest RB on the roster right now. He doesn't have the best vision. He doesn't have the best pad level when running. He doesn't have the best ball secuirty He doesn't have the best sense of or patience to use the blocking scheme. He's not the best blocking back and can be a serious liability in the passing game. Playing Gore is not a charity event...he is the best back in many ways. Maybe Mack will surpass him this year, but he's not there yet, and one good game against a defense that repeatedly failed with containment and allowed big gains on busted plays doesn't change that fact.
Why the negative nancy spin towards Mack there at the end like all the other backs were ripping off 25-30 yard runs? Gore had a great run that he almost broke free but got caught from behind/waist tackle. One game over 50 yards rushing (57 vs Cleveland on 25 carries). Don't get me wrong I'm a huge Gore fan, and he should remain the starter but Mack deserves more touches (and some credit) as the season goes along. He brings a homerun element to the backfield that none of the other backs have and it's not even close.
The Colts do need a rb like Gore who can get skinny when there are NO holes to run through. That happens a lot behind this OLine. The Colts also need a rb like Mack who can take it to the house and instills that fear into opposing D's. I have also seen some people criticize Mack for some runs where he was hit behind the line but defend Gore on the same type of plays
. It's a sad day here in Colts nation when 40 yards rushing is considered a productive day (I'm not saying it's Gores fault by any means, we all know what the problems are. Luck being out OLine problems, play calling) but it's been that way for a long time with the Colts. The Colts need both of these running backs as their styles complement each other very nicely. Oh and Turbin should always be the 3rd and 1 rb!!
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GREAT news! Be awesome to get CG back...
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17 hours ago, krunk said:
I think we can beat Tenn with or without Luck. Not so sure Brissett would beat Jax BC I'm concerned we will have numerous problems protecting. Not out of question though
I agree Krunk given how poorly the Titans D has performed this year especially in the secondary. I also wonder how much longer Mariota will be out?
Jax on the other hand, that secondary/pass rush is playing scary good. They will definitely put our improved run D to the test as well.
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32 minutes ago, akcolt said:
We have the worst group of ILB''s in the league. Today PFF rated Bostic 37.4 and Morrison 39.6. These guys can not cover giving up 10 catches for 85 yards and the td between them. The D is always going to be held back by our inability to cover and lack of speed to play sidelineto sideline inside. Then our DC doesn't help much with some of his coverages. We need changes at ILB.
George got one start vs Arizona and rated at 86.7. That was the best rating of any Colt in that game and easily the best of any ILB this season. He should see the field.. TJ Green could be used in a hybrid backer type role. There's no way we could be any worse than what we have now.. If he cleans up his tackling he could give us something there. We should sign Hodges right now. Gerald Hodges could not help this team? Ballard? I just realized he was available. I don't know why we don't bring him in. He had a good year last season in SF's 3-4,
I also agree on George. After watching him make yet another play today (1/2 sack with Sheard) I went and looked up his snap count for last week vs Seattle. None on Defense but did play on special teams. I didn't hear anything about him being inured so I'm not sure why he's not getting any run. I also thought he played really well against Arizona and was afraid he would be back on the bench once Morrison came back. I'm not sure how he fares in pass coverage, maybe somebody can shed some light on that but I agree he needs to see the field more.
Definitely an area of need next offseason...
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12 minutes ago, Superman said:
I didn't have big issues with the traditional run blocking, more the pass protection and blocking in space.
And yes, JB is still limited, and I think it's a big part of some of the offensive dry spells. It's only been five weeks. I personally lose sight of that because he's done such a good job making plays, but there are still clear issues.
I'm out of likes but I agree with everything here especially JB.
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1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said:
Yes it's been a long strange trip. When I was young I was a Bear fan because my parents were huge Bear fans. I became a Colt fan when Bert Jones was drafted and have stayed with them every since. That's pretty much why I don't get all bent out of sorts when they don't do well. Two 8-8 seasons are not really that bad when you remember a few seasons where 8-8 would have been considered good for them.
I see life and spark in them right now it just takes time for Ballard to get the players he wants.
That's awesome Crazy! Yea I was a Chargers fan before the Colts came to town. Lived in San Diego before moving back to Indiana. I also know what you mean on not getting too worked up. I remember when winning one game (usually all FG's 12-9 score lol) was cause for a HUGE celebration
I agree with you 100% on Ballard and patience. I definitely see some bright lights/potential here and there. I'm right there with you on most of your views CC, we just don't see eye to eye when it comes to Pags...and that's ok Good win today even though it got a little scary there at the end..
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16 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:
Those coaches didn't have any problems getting wins in their first three seasons did they? Did all of a sudden Pagano forget how to coach? All the excuses why some feel the only way we went to the AFC championship game was because of Luck. Well Luck didn't do it all by himself. It took a very decent team with good coaching for any of that to happen.
Grigson's free agent signings for his last 4 seasons sucked. Grigson's draft his last three seasons sucked even worse.
Pagano was tied with a team lacked serious talent at key positions with virtually no depth.
Pagano as far as his coaching was over shadowed by being blamed for losses and fingers started being pointed at him as the cause.
This reason is exactly why Irsay has not fired Pagano. When looking at the bigger picture and comprehending why there was a serious drop off in the Colts wins and losses.
Ballard may or may not have a plan for a change in coaching and coaches in the future but rumors and speculations said by people in this forum is not going to sway Irsay and Ballard on doing what they think is best for this team. Till that times comes being all bent out of shape over something no one but those two will determine is useless and immaterial.
Look, I have been watching and paying attention to the NFL since before the AFL-NFL merger and what the Colts are going through right now with some of their fans is a piece of cake compared to some of the problems that change from team to team every season in the NFL.
GMs and coaches really don't take fans opinions serious and even get a kick and chuckle out of some opinions voiced by fans. Fan is short for fanatic and it's kind of self explains itself.
That's awesome you've been watching football that long CrazyColt!!! Man I bet you have seen a lot of wild/crazy/classic matchups!!
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12 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:
Those coaches didn't have any problems getting wins in their first three seasons did they? Did all of a sudden Pagano forget how to coach? All the excuses why some feel the only way we went to the AFC championship game was because of Luck. Well Luck didn't do it all by himself. It took a very decent team with good coaching for any of that to happen.
Grigson's free agent signings for his last 4 seasons sucked. Grigson's draft his last three seasons sucked even worse.
Pagano was tied with a team lacked serious talent at key positions with virtually no depth.
Pagano as far as his coaching was over shadowed by being blamed for losses and fingers started being pointed at him as the cause.
This reason is exactly why Irsay has not fired Pagano. When looking at the bigger picture and comprehending why there was a serious drop off in the Colts wins and losses.
Ballard may or may not have a plan for a change in coaching and coaches in the future but rumors and speculations said by people in this forum is not going to sway Irsay and Ballard on doing what they think is best for this team. Till that times comes being all bent out of shape over something no one but those two will determine is useless and immaterial.
Look, I have been watching and paying attention to the NFL since before the AFL-NFL merger and what the Colts are going through right now with some of their fans is a piece of cake compared to some of the problems that change from team to team every season in the NFL.
GMs and coaches really don't take fans opinions serious and even get a kick and chuckle out of some opinions voiced by fans. Fan is short for fanatic and it's kind of self explains itself.
Also the issues I have with Pags are as evident today as they were 3 years ago. Only difference is he was getting W's back then...Slow starts, no in-game adjustments, discipline, clock management, challenges or lack of. Cant play 4 quarters of football in 6 years. Were still trying to copy that San Fran game from 15'. I like pags as a person, awesome guy! Time to go as a coach but that's just my 2 cent.
**disclaimer: In no way are my views a direct reflection of the Indianapolis Colts nor do I feel my thoughts and opinions will be used in the next Ballard/Irsay meeting. I also hope the Colts don't use my 2 cent against me in any way. Like banning me from home games
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12 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:
Those coaches didn't have any problems getting wins in their first three seasons did they? Did all of a sudden Pagano forget how to coach? All the excuses why some feel the only way we went to the AFC championship game was because of Luck. Well Luck didn't do it all by himself. It took a very decent team with good coaching for any of that to happen.
Grigson's free agent signings for his last 4 seasons sucked. Grigson's draft his last three seasons sucked even worse.
Pagano was tied with a team lacked serious talent at key positions with virtually no depth.
Pagano as far as his coaching was over shadowed by being blamed for losses and fingers started being pointed at him as the cause.
This reason is exactly why Irsay has not fired Pagano. When looking at the bigger picture and comprehending why there was a serious drop off in the Colts wins and losses.
Ballard may or may not have a plan for a change in coaching and coaches in the future but rumors and speculations said by people in this forum is not going to sway Irsay and Ballard on doing what they think is best for this team. Till that times comes being all bent out of shape over something no one but those two will determine is useless and immaterial.
Look, I have been watching and paying attention to the NFL since before the AFL-NFL merger and what the Colts are going through right now with some of their fans is a piece of cake compared to some of the problems that change from team to team every season in the NFL.
GMs and coaches really don't take fans opinions serious and even get a kick and chuckle out of some opinions voiced by fans. Fan is short for fanatic and it's kind of self explains itself.
Key words: 3 years ago. Yes I'm only a fan. Proud to be a colts fan! As I know you are as well and at the end of the day your opinions mean just as much as mine. I guess we will see what Ballard and Irsay think of Pags coaching at the end of the season. I think I know where I would put my $ if I was a betting man.
For the record...NOT IN A MILLION YEARS do I think my opinion on a message board is going to sway Irsay or Ballards decision making one way or the other. This is a message board. Not a stock holder meeting or whatever lol. Fans come here to voice their opinions to other fans. I think you take this board a little to serious but I could be wrong. I will still give ya a high five after a Colts TD!! lol
The only thing I question is the "15 touches" assumption. Through 5 games, I think there have been a total of 145 touches for the RBs, or 29 per game, including runs and passes. Unless you cut Turbin out totally (which I dont think you want to do in short yardage situations) or the offense gets significantly more prolific, there's only going to be around 10 touches for Mack. Cut anything more out of Gore and neither he r the o-line will establish any rhythm.
The guy is just money in those situations. Yea I see your point on 15 touches but I was hoping for a couple passes headed his way. Anything to get Mack in the open field. I liked those stiff arms last Sunday 
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I read where Pagano says Wilson needs to be better on special teams. Don't get me wrong he most likely needs to get better in that department but cmon! We need him in the secondary WAY MORE than on special teams.