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Below is a link to the first 3 rounds of the Draft Network Premium Slack Channel (if you’re not already a member I would highly recommend that you join) where I was representing our beloved Colts.
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/mock-draft-nfl-tdn-premiumThe link above will give analysis for the 1st 3 rounds but we carried on past these 3 rounds (currently in the 7th round now) and the Colts have taken the following:
13. Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina
34. Jordan Love, QB, Utah State
44. Prince Tega Wanagho, OT, Auburn
75. Kyle Dugger, S, Lenoir Rhyne
112. Michael Pittman, WR, USC
143. Albert Okwuegbunhan, TE, Missouri
174. Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame
192. DJ Wonnum, EDGE, South Carolina
205. Still to be picked but leaning either Elijah Riley from Army or Kindle Vildor from Georgia Southern ( both CBs)
So how did I do? Was it good enough in your opinion? Did I absolutely nail it or did I do so badly that my Colts fan membership should be rescinded, let me know- 8
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I hope that we sign Jones too. From a 3-Technique, he looks like a game wrecker ( case in point: he helped create a turnover last night.)
I sincerely hope Ballard signs Jones and in the draft either go:13.Herbert
34. Gallimore/Blacklock (or even trade back up into the first if Kinlaw is still there)
or
13. Kinlaw (if Herbert is gone)
and then trade back into round 1 to get Jordan Love
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Best case:
Herbert falls to 13 and Kinlaw falls to the latter part of round 1 for us to trade up and not give up too much (or he falls to 34 for the absolute best case scenario) and then somehow (due to the depth of the class) a WR like Laviska Shenault falls to 44
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29 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:
I also think we have enough Talent on this team that Herbert could start immediately and probably have pretty good success.
With the giants never wanting to move down in the draft we might not even be able to find a trade partner to move up. Lion could shock everyone and take a QB. There really isn’t much opportunity to move up before the chargers.
Kyle Crabbs spoke about the Lions and maybe needing a QB, he said that it will likely just to try and drum up trade value instead of actually taking a QB (Stafford's cap hit is really high if they were to cut him etc)
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6 minutes ago, Fluke_33 said:
I posted this in the wrong thread earlier but do you think the qb rankings changed by the performances in the game? I couldn’t see it
tbh, I feel like the Senior Bowl has helped me reinforce who I want at QB for the Colts.
Coming into it I had:
1. Herbert2.Love
3. Eason
The week has sort of reinforced that order. Love was good but I still liked Herbert's fit with the Colts more
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2 minutes ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:
From what I’ve been reading. This isn’t too much of a stretch. The only one is Oakland. We will.
ive come to the conclusion that I refuse to get excited about any QB because I don’t want to be disappointed come Draft. I really like the following. In this order.
Herbert
Love
Hurts
Gordon
Yeah that's fair enough, I'm trying to not get too excited either about any one prospect.
I think one thing we need to bear in mind is that with the Combine and Pro Days coming up, other QBs could jump up boards (like Eason and maybe even Fromm) which could help in our favour.
For me, because of his arm, it wouldn't shock me if Eason jumped up.
I would personally only feel comfortable drafting in order:
Herbert (only QB I'd honestly feel comfortable with drafting at 13 or earlier) Love ( Would be willing to jump back into the 1st round for him but 13 is a bit too rich for me at the minute)Eason (Wouldn't really draft in the 1st but maybe in the 2nd dependent of Combine/Pro Days
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My "praying for a miracle QB at 13 wishlist":
Burrow at 1 (rendering Dalton tradeable to another QB needy team)Tua's medicals check out (Dolphins at 5)
Chargers sign/trade for a vet QB (like Brady)
Cam Newton's medicals check out and Rhule and Co like him to keep him
Gruden likes a QB in round 2 (like Gordon or Hurts)
so at 13 we have Love and Herbert available
It's a lot of mental gymnastics but LET ME DREAM
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Justin Herbert and Van Jefferson is a combination I want to see in Indy, so good
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This is quite an interesting article, I think this may be the 2nd article from TDN saying that Herbert would be a great fit for the Colts
OREGON'S JUSTIN HERBERT
Ideal fit: Indianapolis Colts
"Justin Herbert isn't often projected to the Colts, namely because he doesn't have the stock that consistently puts him in the conversation. Herbert is often considered out of the Colts' striking range. But if he's on the board, he's a terrific fit. Consider Herbert's profile as a passer: highly intelligent, possesses excellent arm strength and wins predominantly within the pocket.
The Colts' former quarterback, Andrew Luck? Highly intelligent with good arm strength while winning predominantly within the pocket. Passes the sniff test, right? But the biggest variable that makes Herbert such an attractive fit is the support staff he'd be greeted with in Indianapolis. A viable running game boosted by a stout offensive line gives Herbert the stability he needs on offense to continue to find his groove as a top-shelf passer. Even from a leadership perspective, Luck was a goofy "aw, shucks" type of leader. With Herbert's lingering uncertainties about how vocal he can be as the face of a franchise, there's a foundation and track record that would marry these two parties together well."
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2 minutes ago, chad72 said:
I was thinking "if we are going to move up, we might as well move up for Tua, trading with the Giants"?? We plan to sit a new QB for a year anyways, might as well get the one we know did real well in an oustanding conference.
I personally would be a bit worried with giving up too much to move up. I'd be more comfortable trading back into the 1st round (where the cost won't be as bad.)
e.g. Scenario A- if Herbert is there at 13, take him there and then hope someone like Kinlaw drops to the latter half of round 1 (trade up for him) orScenario B- Take Kinlaw at 13 (if Herbert's gone) and hope that Love is there in the latter half of the round ( to trade up and get him)
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2 minutes ago, chad72 said:
Heck with the Chargers, they see Mahomes twice and maybe they are getting carried away with Love's ceiling.
Is there any way Tua does not go to the Dolphins?
I saw on WalterFootball that the belief is that the Dolphins really want Tua and are only looking at QBs like Herbert as a plan B
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5 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:
If the colts want love they are going to have to move up.
That is quite interesting actually. I've seen a couple of sites (Benjamin Albright and Walter Football) rumouring that the Chargers really like Herbert. I would hate if they took either, but if they had to take one, I'd prefer they took Love, so that we could take Herbert
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3 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:
Lol. Simmons dropped some but not out of the third round.
He doesn't even need to fall out of the 1st round, I'd be happy with the lower end of round 1 so we can trade up and get him (obviously assuming we get a QB at 13)
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2 minutes ago, stitches said:
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Oh no! I hope that it's not serious enough to cause him to fall out of the 1st round, maybe to pick 34 ;)
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Having just watched both NFLN and ESPN, Jordan Love has looked good. like really good. I wish the other QBs did but they just looked like they struggled comparatively
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22 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said:
That would be excellent but there are way too many teams needing a QB
True, but in my dream scenario:
Bengals go BurrowDolphins get Tua
Chargers sign Brady (I've seen a couple of people rumour that)
Panthers trade for someone like Jameis (the Bucs apparently have interest in Rivers)
and the Raiders take someone like Jalen Hurts later on
It's a lot of mental gymnastics I know, but let me dream!
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My ideal (trade up) scenario:
Kinlaw at 13
A QB (Love or Herbert) starts to fall into the 20's
We trade 34+ and a 2nd next year (similar to the Redskins trade with us last year) back into the 1st
Select said QB
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Jordan Love day 1 analysis according to Tony Pauline:
"Love did not have quite the day of Justin Herbert but he wasn’t far behind. He made several magnificent passes throughout the day and drew a lot of praise from the scouts around me. He has a super quick, super-efficient release, a live arm and showed some beautiful pass placement. There were a couple of passes that got away from him and he was not quite as effective on the move compared to Herbert, but it was an “A” day for Love."
For Contrast, this is what Pauline had to say about Herbert:
"Herbert looked phenomenal on Tuesday displaying all the physical tools and leadership skills necessary for the next level. He was right on the money with many of his throws and his pass placement was off the charts. He made plays in and out of the pocket, displayed a next level arm and great athleticism. His incomplete passes were more about drops by receivers rather than missed throws on his part. And when his receivers dropped a pass Herbert was there to take charge. Terrific day by the Oregon quarterback."
So from the sounds of it, they both had a really good day, which, as someone who would want to draft either one, scares me a little
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But because Brett Kollmann has said this, it now means that Love is cursed for his NFL career (if you watch his stuff, you know what I mean haha)
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One could only hope that Gordon performs so well, that he ends up causing another QB to drop a bit (*Cough* hopefully Herbert or Love *Cough)
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Also, does anyone know why Drew Lock fell to the 2nd round last year? I know they talk about Daniel Jones raising his stock after the Senior Bowl, but from what I can remember, Lock was considered to be a 1st rounder and had a good Senior Bowl and yet fell. I wonder if that could happen to any of the QBs in the draft
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1 minute ago, stitches said:
Seems like Van Jefferson is turning some heads:
Yeah from what I saw on NFLN, he looked really good, Dane Jackson (CB from Pitt) looked good in press but (before they stopped showing) had an ugly rep in Off man
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If only there was a way/mock that could allow for us to get Kinlaw and a QB like Herbert or Love...
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Both drafts courtesy of the Draft Network mock draft machine. Quite simply: which (if either) draft do you prefer and why? I am aware there are repeat players in both drafts but then again, they were BPA and I clearly like them.
Draft A
13.Justin Herbert QB, Oregon
34. Javon Kinlaw IDL, South Carolina
44. Prince Tega Wanogho OT, Auburn
75. Joshua Uche EDGE, Michigan
112.Michael Pittman Jr. WR, USC
142. Kyle Dugger S, Lenoir-Rhyne
173. Chase Claypool WR, Notre Dame
190. Jacob Breeland TE, Oregon
204. Jaron Bryant CB, Fresno State
Draft B
13. Derrick Brown IDL, Auburn
34. Jordan Love QB, Utah State
44. Prince Tega Wanogho OT, Auburn
75. Quartney Davis WR, Texas A&M
112.Joshua Uche EDGE, Michigan
142.Kyle Dugger S, Lenoir-Rhyne
173. Mitchell Wilcox TE, South Florida
190. Kindle Vildor CB, Georgia Southern
204. Binjimen Victor WR, Ohio State
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Motley was taken in the 5th by the Jets.
You can read my analysis for the 1st few picks but here's my general reasoning for the Day 3 picks:
Pittman- I was eyeing Van Jefferson or Quartney Davis but both were taken, I personally like Pittman, very solid receiver who could b a nice X receiver.
Albert O- We need a #2 TE and I thought he was he most athletic TE available, I'm surprised he fell tbh.
Claypool- He had no right being there in the 6th, since I addressed the X position I wanted to address receiver again and add a slot receiver, the choice was between Claypool and Antonio Gibson and to me, Claypool gave me slightly more versatility.
Wonnum- I wanted to add an edge rusher and I felt like Wonum would've been a nice developmental piece