The Peytonator
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Also I don’t want Campbell or Funchess dipping in to Pascal’s snaps. That man has earned every bit of the #2 WR snaps. I guess they’ll probably take Cain’s snaps because he’s pretty much just been a body out there.
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Just in time to start easing them back in slowly for the powerhouse teams like the Broncos, Roethlesbergerless Steelers, Dolphins, Jaguars, and the two divisional teams we’ve already schooled.
Get them healthy but don’t rush it because this team is for real.
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We gave him a pretty loud standing O in the pregame ceremony and it was really sweet to see him on the jumbotron smiling from ear to ear. There's never any shortage of American patriotism in our state and it showed with the reception we gave to Mr. Yeager. Very nice gesture for Jim to give the game ball to an American hero.
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4 hours ago, Valpo2004 said:
You know people call some things risk taking that I don't think should be considered a risk.
Like the 4th and 1 in I think the Falcons game. Game situation and everything to me said that the chances of converting on 4th and 1 was much much higher than the chances of stopping them from scoring after punting.
Odds of converting on a 4th and 1 with a QB sneak NFL wide are close to 90%. Now when you consider that we have a big QB and one of the best OL's in the NFL that has to bump the chances up to like 95% chance or close to it.
There is no way that our chances of stopping the Falcons from scoring after a punt where anything near that high. Given that they where on a roll before that, they have a good vet QB and possibly the best receiver in the NFL and I think they would have had like 4 minutes at that point, I would say the odds of making the stop at that time where probably less than 25%
That's not being risky, that's being smart.
It’s definitely smart but a lot of coaches fail to understand such a basic concept. Reich has a great understanding of analytics and when you should take chances versus when you shouldn’t. Going for it on fourth down on that pitch to Mack this weekend was a great example even though it didn’t work. I even liked the play call, Houston just made a good defensive play.
I also liked that that we were throwing on first downs and running on second. The analytics show that the conventional wisdom of running on first and throwing on second is backwards. Frank has started to pick up on that and he really displayed it over the weekend. It was a sexy game plan offensively by a great coach.
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Need a few more years but he is well on his way. Best this Dungy had going for him was longevity, his well respected demeanor, and a lot of regular season wins, but for all the talent they had on the team, he won one SB. That’s an overrated coach and I was glad to have him.
Reich on the other hand is in his second year and has shown no sign of regress, this after losing his franchise QB two weeks into the year. The man is a stud and I’m so glad Snake McDaniels bailed. Frank will beat you in a thousand different ways, has lots of personnel groupings and seems to understand role players better than the other guys.
Not to mention the gargantuan balls that he has to carry between his legs every day. Can’t be hard to move around so well carrying that much weight in your pants every day.
Here’s to another 30 years of Reich/Ballard rocking the Horseshoe.
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The dude just gets open, catches everything, gets YAC, moves the chains, run blocks, returns kicks, and plays special teams. Shows an incredible reliability for a guy we claimed off waivers last year and was an UDFA out of Old Dominion University. He's basically Jack Doyle at WR, a 'Zach of all trades' if you will. This is early in his second year and he's shown a ton of promise so I see no reason for him to not keep showing a ton of improvement. As excited as I was about Funchess, Cain, and Campbell going into the season, it has been Zach Pascal, the relative afterthought, who has truly earned the #2 WR position. Just no more Philly Specials with him throwing the rock.
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He looks like he’s about to come out of retirement and play defensive end. Dude is seriously jacked for a Stanford architectural degree having quarterback who plays dungeons and dragons.
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We were missing our reigning defensive player of the year, our stud FS, our other safety, one of our starting receivers, and we had a hobbled #1 WR and Rb.
Every team is hurt, this is football, not shuffleboard.
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19 minutes ago, coltsfanej said:
I remember there being some here that were not sold on Luck and were vocal on wanted to trade back and draft a more developmental QB to groom behind Manning and use the draft capital to give Peyton talent and build a solid team for the future... I was on the wagon of trading back and taking Foles later... Not saying that would have worked out, but that was my druther. Seems like maybe @The Peytonator was in on the discussion back then as well as others.... But as they say shoulda woulda coulda.
I do remember being a big trade back and draft Foles shipper early in the offseason, then I reneged and changed my mind to it being a foolish and Peyton homer type of thinking, and being all in on drafting the future, Luck. I don’t think that even in hindsight, that I could definitively say I side with either. Obviously I’d take the Manning/Foles Lombardi’s if all things are equal, but we’ll never know what the results would have been if we went that route.
The thing about keeping Peyton is that they probably would have chosen to keep Caldwell and Polian, and retain the status quo. I don’t remember having much of a dog in the fight on the GM search, but I really wanted to bring in Mike Zimmer at head coach. I don’t retain the notion that a Peyton led 2011 team would have been anything less than an 11-5, possible deep playoff run, type of season that a lot of pundits seem to think. He was two seasons removed from being in the Super Bowl with largely the same team. He knew how to carry this team in a way that Kerry Collins being lured out of retirement didn’t.
Bottom line is, I think that roster and front office needed a shakeup and it wouldn’t have happened with Peyton, even if it would have helped. I actually would have rather kept Caldwell and gotten rid of Polian in hindsight, but that probably would have been a crazy thought at the time, I can barely remember how most felt back then. I don’t believe drafting Luck should be looked at as a bad decision. He was a generational talent at the most premium position in the game. I do believe he lost the desire to play more so than his body just giving out on him, but that is neither here nor there. There is no way that we could have known either would occur back then and I think it’s very likely neither would have occurred if we went a different route than hiring Ryan Grigson.
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1 hour ago, NewColtsFan said:
You're 100 percent right. And then some. Not only are you not the only one, I'm confident when I say that those against Luck doing what he did far outnumber those who support him.
In one decision, Luck destroyed all the good will he had earned for the last 7 years. As I just said to another poster, booing Luck off the field is not a good look to the rest of the NFL. I don't think the fan base did the franchise any favors. A terrible weekend for the Colts just got worse by how the fans reacted....
Oh well...
NCF, try not to let last night’s booing sully your view of the fan base. While I wouldn’t have been among them, the hundred or so odd fans that booed did so out of a few different factors; confusion, heartbreak, disappointment, and sheer mob mentality. I think the online reaction today across the NFL and Colts fan base has been far more reflective of the general mood than last night. Players, fans, and talking heads have come out in droves to support his decision.
I don’t know if you plan to stick around now that he’s gone. I’ve actually asked you in the past and you did say that you don’t foresee leaving entirely after spending so much time here, I hope you stay true to that. The place won’t be the same without you, just don’t let a few reactionary fans make you think that they are in a majority, or that this destroys any good will that Andrew has built in his 7 NFL years.
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Those are not the mannerisms that either guy would use for such a conversation. Brissett would be far more reactionary than he is in that moment.
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21 minutes ago, VaAllDay757 said:
He only drafted 3 o-line players in all those drafts he was in.....he really didn't try and as far as those free agents they trash and old and he still signed them to big contracts
Dude I just named four and that was off the top of my head. There was also Clark, Haeg, Blythe, and some other seventh rounders. It wasn’t for lack of trying or putting resources into pass protection that Luck was so beat up. Grigson was just bad at his job and it took a few years to realize this.
It wasn’t as readily apparent either as it is in hindsight. Most of the board, me included really liked what he was doing the first three years when we were making the playoffs and got to the conference championship game. The dude won GM of the year in his first year. I don’t want to sound like a Grigson apologist because I don’t like the guy, but Irsay is largely blameless in all of this. I think Luck was destined for an early retirement. His love for the game waned. Being in constant rehab didn’t help but playing this sport professionally means taking a constant beating, and for him the constant beatings weren’t worth the reward. I hold no ill will towards him over this, although I wish the timing were a little better.
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Grigson tried to protect Luck. He drafted linemen early; Kelly, Mewhort, Thornton, Holmes, and he brought them in through free agency; Cherilus, Satele. He just brought in the wrong ones because he wasn’t a good GM. Plus the offensive scheme wasn’t conducive to protecting the franchise. It is not on Irsay that Luck wasn’t protected.
Once it became obvious that Grigson wasn’t doing the job, Irsay got rid of him. I think Luck was destined for an early retirement anyway. There were rumors that his love for the game wasn’t all there for the last few years, we were all just living in denial....and for good reason. His early retirement blindsided everyone, including the people at the top.
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Stephen, I like your enthusiasm and I am going to say that he is undoubtedly as good as Vontae Davis in his prime. Not just that, he could probably rival Darrelle Revis before he’s even taken a live snap. I have at least seen no evidence to suggest otherwise.
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Melvin Gordon is holding out because he’s a running back on a rookie deal. Castonzo has already gotten his second contract so there’s no reason for him to hold out in a contract year. Ebron is also in a contract year and while he may have outplayed what he made last year, he’s not exactly a prototypical every down TE. He played like 50% of offensive snaps. He was given the opportunity of a lifetime by Reich and Ballard and was put in a position to succeed. Neither guy is in a spot where they would benefit from a holdout.
Now let’s say Darius balls out this year and next the way he did his rookie year and isn’t given a new contract going in to year four, that would be a situation where we could see a holdout. I don’t think Ballard would allow that. The way that he rewarded Moore and to a lesser degree Desir and Hunt, I just don’t see him letting it get to that point.
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Really digging what I’m hearing about Turay. I have high expectations for him and thought he was more deserving of playing time down the stretch last year. Our edge is setting up pretty nicely with Houston and Sheard as our vets and Turay, Muhammad, and Banogu for youth. Interior line is still a weakness that I’d have liked to see addressed but we’ll see how it plays out.
Hearing that Collins is getting some play with the 1’s is pretty cool. Does anyone know exactly how the rotations are going with the DBs? I think Wilson has always proven himself on the field for game days but there always seems to be whispers of his work ethic being questioned. He looked good last year at safety so I’m wondering if they’re giving him more work there with Geathers always questionable health. I think a small dime set of Collins, Desir, and Moore at CB, Hooker and Wilson at Safety, and Geathers at LB would be pretty tough to throw against.
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Campbell and it won’t even be close unless he plays half the year and Brown stays healthy.
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I can’t believe they’d leave out the Collins/Painter/Orlovsky trio. Those three men are instrumental in Colts lore.
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Am I the only one who thought @crazycolt1 is a woman?
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‘If you’re a left tackle and your name is not Joe Thomas, you suck.’ - Colts fans
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So let’s look at the names you mentioned....
Autry - An exceptionally slight (270 pounds) UT. Someone whose game resembles Raheem Brock and is adequate but not spectacular, a solid role player.
Hunt - Ditto. A 6’8” inch nose tackle is unheard of. He far exceeded expectations and was asked to play way more snaps than he should. I like the guy, as I do Autry, but he is far more effective on a defensive line rotation. I do not want him starting, much less being our nose tackle on base downs. Fans have a bad habit of hyperbole when it comes to their own players, good and bad, and Hunt is probably our most egregious one. He had one sack over the last twelve games last year. He will also be 32 next year.
Stewart - An actual nose by traditional standards, just not appearing to be ready by all evidence at this point. He had a poor PFF grade and say what you want about them, but their dline grades are always pretty spot on. I think his NFL ceiling is about Mookie Johnson level but that might be pushing it and certainly not for another three years.
Lewis - Honestly I am not nearly as high on him as Ballard or any of my fellow Colts fans. I really hope I’m wrong but he did not impress me on the edge, and he looked equally unimpressive when he moved inside. His best NFL comp is Keyunta Dawson. If he meets the expectations of what most seem to be putting on him, he is also redundant to Autry.
Robinson, Thompson, Shippy, Jegede - Four additional undrafted rookies that are at least half camp bodies should probably not even be listed among the names to make anyone feel better about that position being good to go. That’s not to say they’re gonna be bad. I really like the Thompson and Shippy signings. I hope they turn out to be Damon Harrison and John Randle. But most likely they’re all out of the league after preseason and looking to sign deals with the Saskatchewan Roughriders.
Bottom line, while they far surpassed their own abilities last year in bottling up some big time backs like Saquon, Zeke, and Derrick Henry, I don’t feel comfortable counting on the same production out of guys who are at best third and fourth men on a dline rotation. I think it could end in an ugly result using an interior dline of Raheem Brock, Keyunta Dawson, Mookie Johnson, a string bean, and a random assortment of undersized rookies from powerhouses like Charleston Southern and Alcorn State.
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BDB definitely appears to have a fetish for length across all positions. He just wants guys that can measure up to him.
Honestly though I hope he isn’t living and dying by the measurements as much as it kind of seems. For instance, he’s shown a desire for long interior dlinemen but statistically the better DTs have been of the shorter, low center of gravity types like Donald and Atkins. It remains to be seen how the defense will perform and I’m not trying to be a blasphemer. I like lengthy corners and LBs, but I did take issue with some of our usage of draft capital and free agency.
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That’s a terrible take by PFF, and I am a big fan of PFF. That’s basically like the Browns saying ‘we already have Jarvis Landry, why would we want OBJ?’ Campbell has a strong grade from them, he’s one of the fastest in the draft, and he wasn’t even used as a deep threat at OSU. He projects better to the NFL game than any of our other draft picks.
If anything the project edge rusher who graded out average, was drafted in the second round, and is being moved to a different role should be their least favorite draft pick.
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As a poster above said, he was a head case at Notre Dame and he’s had his share of issues since entering the league. I actually mocked him coming to us last year in the offseason on a cheap deal so I have no problems with it for this year either. He’s not anyone you want to rely on to play starter snaps but as a rotational lineman the potential has always been there just never realized.
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Add any five current players to our roster, who do you go with?
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I’m bored and just killing time til Darius Leonard and Justin Houston send Flacco to an early retirement on Sunday.
If if you could take any five players in the league; salary cap, age, and injuries all being factored in, who would you bring? This is based on our current roster.
1. Patrick Mahomes - The man is a stud already and is going to be the face of the league for years to come. He’s hurt now but that wouldn’t concern me as it should heal up just fine and he’ll be back to his usual self.
2. George Kittle - He’s not at a tremendously high impact position but he is the new Gronk; run blocks like a tackle, has the surest hands you can ask for, and is great with the ball in his hand. He’d end up taking most of the snaps from Ebron and Doyle but I don’t think anyone would complain that we have a true stud at TE. Plus Mahomes really likes Kelce so he’d have an even better one in Kittle.
3. Aaron Donald - You can’t not have the best defensive player in football, and it’s at a position of relative weakness on our roster.
4. Deion Jones - Very underrated LB and likely the best at coverage. I know we all love us some Darius Leonard, but we do overrate him in coverage a bit. Having Jones take the more difficult coverage assignments would work wonders for not being carved up by TEs and RBs. The difference between completion percentage without him on the field is mind boggling compared to when he is.
5. Quinton Dunbar - I really wanted to make the last spot a secondary player, and I wanted it to be a corner but it’s hard to narrow down the perfect candidate. Dunbar isn’t a household name but for being undrafted a few years ago he has come a long way and is really starting to look like a stud. Sure, could have gone with Ramsey but I don’t like his attitude and think he’d cause locker room problems. Could’ve gone with Peterson but he’s aging a little and just got himself suspended, no thank you. Thought about Jaire Alexander but he’s still too unproven to me and doesn’t fit the mold, size wise that Ballard likes.