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1 hour ago, DougDew said:
He didn't say. He just said that AR has the most extensive injury history of any of the QBs available for the draft.
My impression is that most people think these injuries were a surprise. Apparently, if AR was the most injury prone coming into the draft, then what happened to him should not be unexpected or be considered a stroke of bad luck. That's how I think about it.
I wonder how many of his repeat injuries would have been avoided if he had surgery instead of just playing through it.
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1 hour ago, NewColtsFan said:
You're allowed to talk about whatever anyone wants to talk about. But when people make silly comments, some people notice.
You want to talk about Pitt making a silly comment go right ahead. But I think it’s counter productive to good discussion. I’m not a moderator. I have zero authority. I encourage people to post. But personally, I try to notice who makes good arguments and who makes bad arguments. I know who I’d rather interact with and who I’d avoid. But maybe that’s just me?
You think Pitt’s history doesn’t change what he said? I think the opposite is true. Sorry, but I don’t see much we agree on.
You are being overly dramatic about people calling a spade a spade. Even Pitt said he shouldn't have said it.
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17 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
Yes…. People are calling him out for it. A player who has made zero silly comments in 3.5 years finally makes a silly comment and he gets criticized for it. I think it reflects poorly in those same people. But I’m not surprised. Just disappointed.Not sure how it reflects poorly on anyone for criticizing a silly/ridiculous comment.
Pitt's history doesn't change what he said.
So how many times does a player have to make a dumb comment before we are ALLOWED to talk about it? lol
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On 10/24/2023 at 9:17 AM, NewColtsFan said:
Even if it’s ridiculous….. so?
As I noted before, Pitt has as clean a record of any Colts player. So he said something ridiculous after a very frustrating loss. His first silly moment as a Colt in 3.5 years.
My reaction is…. Who cares? Cut him some slack. If he makes more silly comments then maybe there’s an issue. Otherwise, I think he’ll calm down.
Yea, probably but we could close down this forum entirely if any discussion is met with "so". Pretty much everything said on here could be considered small potatoes.
Pitt made a silly/ridiculous comment. People are just commenting/calling him out on it.
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6 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
Michael Pittman has as clean a record as any Colts player the last 4 years. He’s 100 percent a team player. He hasn’t uttered a single negative word about his contract situation. He’s always been about the team.
Now he makes a comment after a frustrating loss and you conclude he’s jealous of a teammate. According to you, he’s not happy for his teammate’s success, he’s jealous of him.
You may follow the Colts wins and losses, but apparently you don’t follow the players too closely. You don’t like Pittman the player so you decide to rip Pittman the person.
How sad….
So you don't think his comment was a bit ridiculous, especially given how high his target share is already?
As Zaire says, he just wants to be able to feed his family lol
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Maybe they will just put the horseshoe on the 50 yd line The whole helmet looks kind of bleh
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11 hours ago, chickenMan said:
Yeah, why wouldn't he be? AR got over his concussion last week!
Just kidding, of course.
In all seriousness, I would wager that JT will play as much as he can and to the best of his ability, and then find the highest offer in free agency, which absolutely won't be us. I love JT, I think he's the best running back we've had since Edge, and he may be the best running back in the league, but no running back is worth the premium in today's day and age, not when quarterbacks make as much as they do (just look at how much Mahomes and Burrow are making....we're gonna have to pay AR that eventually). Ballard knows he can't spend that kind of money on a position like that. I hate the business side of the NFL, but it is what it is. Could always be worse, could be like the NBA, where players are constantly ditching the Pacers simply because they don't want to play in Indiana...
Probably a good bet. We didn't keep Faulk, we didn't keep Edge... we were ahead of the game in the area of not paying to keep RBs.
Other than Gore, have we had much in the way of starting RBs in their upper 20s or 30s? Edge was 27 in his last year as a Colt so guess that is borderline.
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12 hours ago, GoColts8818 said:
So do teams, should they honor it when they release a player when it benefits them? For the record by the letter of his contract Taylor has honored it. There is nothing in his contract that says he can’t ask for a new one before it up and we see both teams and players do this all the time in the NFL. Right or wrong he found a way with the “injury” to not be in violation of his contract. I agree his “injury” was at best questionable but the Colts agreed to play along with it which means rather they bought it or not they accepted it.
I am not going to say he did everything ethically right but let’s not kid ourselves teams don’t either. I am not saying the Colts did anything ethically wrong in this case, I stand by what I’ve said all along they handled things perfectly, but Taylor and the Colts don’t work in a vaccum they are part of a larger picture. I think if you ask most players they don’t feel the way running backs contracts are being handled is ethical from their perspective when compared to how other players who excel have their contracts handled.
I do think for the most part we as fans tend to take the Colts side on things and see things from their perspective which makes sense, for the most part we are fans of the Colts first. However, I do think there is another way to look at this from the player’s perspective that many here don’t want to see or refuse to consider. It doesn’t mean their side is right all the time but by the same token the teams side isn’t always right either. I’d go one step further and say I don’t think either side is 100% right the vast majority of the time. I think for the most part these are complicated issues that aren’t as black and white as we sometimes make them out to be, sometimes there is a lot of gray in there.
If the contract says a player can be terminated early, then terminating them early is still honoring the contract.
People say Taylor isn't honoring the contract because he appeared to be faking an injury. That is definitely a violation of the contract and I bet the Colts aren't fighting against that because they are still holding out hope of salvaging the relationship with Taylor.
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1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
If he didn't want to be here, he would not play at all, that is common sense. It is like when you date someone and you know it isn't going to work out because you can't stand her, you want out bad. He didn't seem like that to me, he just wants to be paid.
Exactly 100% correct.
He has to play or his contract would roll over to next year. Whether or not he wants to be here is immaterial to that.
Sounds like a player that has realized that fact and is saying what the Colts want him to say in order to get on the field so he can get this contract over with or get traded.
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13 hours ago, 1959Colts said:
Here is a good article...
Report: Colts’ relationship with RB Jonathan Taylor has ‘vastly improved’ in recent days
Maybe Zaire Franklin has been feeding Taylor's family since he is so worried about him being able to put food on the table and that is why the relationship is improving (joking)
Good news that the relationship has improved. Hopefully more than just Taylor wanting to make sure this year counts so he can leave afterwards.
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1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
What is the difference? Why are you so hung up on someone being on a rookie deal and wanting an extension in his last year of it compared to someone wanting an extension that isn't on one? Taylor has already proven himself.
What if AR turns out great and is playing outstanding and is in his last year of his rookie deal and he wants an extension to be one of the highest paid QB's? Are you going to complain about it? Don't lie because I seriously doubt anyone would. Taylor is a RB is why you are hung up on it is my guess.
The issue wasn't JT asking for an early extension. It is how he handled it when told no.
If Colts didn't offer AR an early extension, then I doubt he would be pulling the crap JT is pulling now.
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1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
So you think his injury was that bad? Interesting, most think he was faking being injured and is 100% healthy.
Yup which is despicable
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41 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I get the playing out your contract part (that would be the noble thing to do) but there have been 100's players in the last year of their deals that ask for an extension to get paid much more. If Taylor was just any Joe Shmoe it would be different but he is a all-pro RB. I equate what he is doing, is someone in a workplace that makes $20 an hour and the 3 people around him doing the same job are making $25 an hour, but yet he is best worker out of the 4 and he knows he deserves to make more money than all of them. Anyone in that position would be upset.
Were those 100s of players on their rookie deals? Would love to see a link to that
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7 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
Allegedly
Well, he refused to have a physical when asked. That loses any benefit of the doubt.
If he was legitimately injured, then colts and jt would both know seeking a trade would be impossible
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6 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
So you would fine if he wanted an extension a year early if he wasn't under rookie contract?
I think it is still ridiculous (just less so) but at least that is a lot more common.
I am never fine with faking an injury so jt deserves any bashing he gets regardless or anything else.
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19 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
That isn't the point, he is way underpaid by NFL standards, and you know it. You sound bitter at this point with the way you post about him everyday. I am pretty much over it with people bashing this guy. I don't like how he has went about it, but he is still a great player. In 2021 when he was an MVP candidate, everyone was in love with him when we ran him into the ground and he nearly gained 2000 yards with 20 total TD's. Football is a business and the guy wants to be paid what he is worth. He has 1 year left on his contract and makes peanuts compared to the other top RB's in the league. No matter what I post, you will refute it so I am really wasting my time trying to explain his side of it.
He is making exactly what he is supposed to on his ROOKIE contract. You would have a point if this was occurring next year.
Yes I will refute it. HE ISN'T DONE WITH HIS ROOKIE CONTRACT.
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5 hours ago, EasyE said:
I may add also I agree with you and I don't blame JT for wanting off this team. By other positions getting paid and not him. JMO
Yea, I don't know how he is able to feed his family on 4 mil. Poor jt
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1 hour ago, Btown_Colt said:
And would do it again tomorrow all other factors being equal!
I don’t like the way this has played out, but the amount of people upset just for wanting a new contract does surprise me a tad.
It is not just for wanting a new contract. It is for refusing to suit up by faking an injury and acting like this a year before his rookie contract is up.
It is one thing to want and ask for a new contract. It is quite another thing to do what JT is doing.
Pittman probably wants a new contract too but he is acting like an adult
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Are concussions happening more frequently or just better reported?
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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I would still love to hear JT speak about the whole situation. He hasn't said anything, basically everything that has been reported/tweeted, is just rumors. People say his agent is speaking for him, all he is doing is tweeting anything to help try and get JT a nice deal done. How do we know he isn't lying about many things? Until I hear JT say, I know longer want to be a Colt, then I am not believing anything I hear or read at this point.
JT has liked quite a few tweets that were telling and he could fire his agent if his agent was misrepresenting his feelings on the matter.
He's also a grown man. He could have done his physical like he was asked to do let the Colts know his health status.
Sure, maybe he isn't as set against leaving the Colts as being reported but there's not much to sugarcoat.
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Just now, jvan1973 said:
I've left jobs for triple what I was making
Great. Not the same thing.
Taylor is more than welcome to leave the NFL and look for the $12 million job.
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17 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
You've never asked for a raise?
Nope but even if I did, I wouldn't be sitting at home pretending to be sick until they gave me one. Plus, I'm not on a contract so your point was already apples and oranges.
Nobody would care if all Taylor did was ASK for a raise.
Did you ever ask anyone to triple your salary?
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2 minutes ago, Chrisaaron1023 said:
Hey guys, I get a "report" on my phone about every hour telling me that "Taylor still doesn't want to play for the Colts." Did you guys know that?!
Yup, but if the Colts don't trade him then he doesn't have much of a choice unless he wants the last year of his contract to roll over to next year and we continue to have the same discussion.
Unfortunately for Taylor, the Colts could tag him for a couple more years so he could be simmering for a bit lol.
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Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I still don't get why some in here doesn't think Taylor can return to 2021 form. He is young with Elite speed and has only been in the NFL for 3 years and hasn't had a bad year yet. Even last year he played good with nagging injuries and his ankle problem. His injury wasn't even that bad. If it were an Achilles or something, I could get that.
Also regarding his contract, it is very normal for an all-pro type of player to want an extension in the last year of their deal. It has happened 100's of times over the years. Not hard to understand.
Most think he can but he has yet to prove it (while claiming he was injured).
If someone was coming back from injury and refused to have a physical done while claiming to be injured, then how would you feel about tripling their pay or more (depending on his asking price)?
Yea, many have wanted an extension, not many during their rookie deals. How many have faked injuries before their ROOKIE deal was even completed?
Colts have the 15th pick in the draft. (MERGE)
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Which prospects have the highest RAS number? I can figure out our class from there lol