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  1. I saw nothing of an expansion team either, the pundits were calling it so.

    My point on RG3 about if he lost his head coach was in regards to the media love for him. They would be brining that up and thus it wouldn't even be a debate that RG3 was the ROY.

    Don't get me wrong I would like to see Luck get it. But in all honesty I think RG3 gets it even though he has missed a game and couldn't finish another. To me the ROY needs to be there for his team all season so I would consider MOrris, Wilson, or Luck over RG3. Problem is though... RG3 has had more primetime games and people who vote will watch primetime games and highlights and thats about it.

     

    True, some were.

     

    If Pagano was an offensive-minded coach, then I think that bullet point would be raised even more than it has been in connection with Luck. I've seen the Pagano's Illness used quite a bit as an arguing point for Luck to win it. If Pagano was as hands on with the offense as Shanahan then it would be amplified more than it is.

     

    In another thread. I made the suggestion that the NFL needs a most valuable rookie so that the rookie awards fall in line with the MVP/OPOY/DPOY. As it stands now, in my opinion the OROY & DROY are more in line with the OPOY & DPOY than they are with MVP. A case could be made for those 4 guys, and to a lesser extent maybe Doug Martin. He had that huge game but Morris was the more consistent back of that class. With Morris & RGIII along with the maneuvering to get RGIII, and attempting to replace some of the picks is one reason I could make an argument for their GM as EOY. He's not going to win it, that will go to Grigson and deservedly. This year has been a fairly unique year where there can be a lot of arguments made for most of these awards. 

  2. Haven't you heard? There is no case for Manning for MVP. That concept is absurd, he hasn't done anything special, he's only played better than Peyton Manning historically has, aka nothing special. Manning winning the award would be nothing but a sham, and outside of a feel good story there is nothing of substance to his 2012 season.

     

     

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    Red italicized text is laced with sarcasm 4 out 5 dentists don't recommend it.  

  3. How does Jim know our new Colts and scheme? Sure he knows Reggie Wayne, Dwight Freeney and Mathis, Castonzo and Bethea but thats it as far as starters. To Answer your question though the Ravens have the edge, They are playing at home and we have no offensive line.

    Exactly, he can know individual players strengths and weaknesses and tendencies to a point but that is about it. Just like with Gruden & the Raiders in the Super Bowl. He knew every move, every play etc, because they hired from within and didn't change anything. If they had brought in a new coach/new system, Gruden would have known the player/etc, but wouldn't have a huge insight into the new scheme. 

  4. OUM, you are just inviting jokes and punch lines with that one.

     

    All joking aside, Caldwell has no intimate knowledge of the Colts on how they are constructed or the schemes they are running.

    Pagano has an intimate knowledge of the Ravens defensive scheme and to a lesser extent their offensive scheme minus any tweaks added this year or this week.  


    Caldwell knows some strengths and weaknesses of individual players but that is basically it.

     

    Now if you put them both in a game vs. say San Fran, it's Chuck all day long but that's from the archives of Captain Obvious.

     

    Now when you start talking Ravens D  vs. Arians O, then I'd say from a familiarity/prep view point it's even. I'd give the edge to the Ravens due to the detailed/coach like workmanship of Ray Lewis, and the predictably of the Arians offense over the years dating back to his time in Pittsburgh. 

     

    Now since you invited comical comments, now if you want to reword it to who has the edge  Jim Caldwell or Mr. Potato Head then I'll go with Mr. Potato Head and his interchangeable expressions. 

     

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    I just knew Mr. Potato Head had intimate knowledge about the Ravens :)

  5. Wait a minute, you pretty much still right right, but #3 is a twist,   This (#4 below) contradicts the other statement in an earlier post.  What do you think?  Especially #4?

     

    "If Permission is granted for an interview during the post-season period, then 

    1. There can be ONE (1) interview only, and it must be held in the Assistant 
    Coach’s home team city; 
    2. For teams earning byes during the Wild Card weekend, the interviews of its 
    coaches must be conducted before the end of the Wild Card games; 
    3. For Assistant Coaches whose team win the Wild Card game, then the 
    interviews must be held after the Wild Card game, and before the Divisional 
    Playoff game. 
    4. NO INTERVIEWS MAY BE REQUESTED NOR GRANTED AFTER THE 
    DIVISIONAL PLAYOFF WEEKEND FOR ANY ASSISTANT COACH WHOSE 
    TEAM IS STILL PLAYING IN THE POST SEASON. 
     
    Hmmm, seems pretty cut and dried.  Now I need to find out which is the real current rules...  If you find out, let us know.  i'll do the same.

     I'm not sure if that information is part of the CBA or not. I'll try to take a look in that this afternoon.  I'll kick around some rocks and see what I can find.

     

    To me #4 simply means that during the week of the AFC/NFC Championship games that teams can't request permission/make interest known or interview a coach during that week so that the coaches can concentrate on the task at hand which is preparing for the AFC/NFC CG. 

     

    Based on that PDF, it seems that if team x has a bye, their coaches can interview for a job during their bye week and then no contact can be had until their seasons ends. If team Y has a wild card game then their coaches can interview in between the WC/Divisional round and then no other contact can be had until their season ends.

  6. If hes a real man and not after money the guy would stick around and help the Colts / Luck get to the SB....

     

     

    That's ridiculous. It has nothing to do with being a real man. He has to do what's best for him and his family...period.

    I don't see how that has anything to do with being a real man. 

     

    Obviously the money for a HC is more than an OC in most if not all cases, but it could easily be about fulfilling a dream. He's been on record saying that he's happy with the time he spent as IHC, and that he won't take just any job, but if an interesting position presents itself, and I would say Chicago is interesting.  He would have a similarly physically talented QB, even though their personalities/demeanor are different. He's not walking into a scrub at QB. Aging, but decent defensive talent. Quarterback wise the same could be said about the potential of him ending up in San Diego. 

     

    If he takes it, I doubt it is as much about the money as other factors.

  7. I guess I am confused , thought that was what u were discussing what i said,

     

    I clicked on link that had all rules but right now to much for me to properly go threw & understand with my confusion issues,

     

    I hate that my Dr says periodic states of confusion will come up unexpectedly at least threw Superbowl and then pending need for another round of medicine adjustments , maybe another month or 2 

    Basically , I was under the impression that the only coaches that could take on interviews during the playoffs, were the coaches of teams with bye's, i.e. Denver/New England, Atlanta & San Fran. That is how it used to be, but evidently they have changed.

     

    I'm sure that makes things even more complicated.  Just take care of yourself. 

  8. 1 ) Its amazing that there are really 4 rookies that could be put in this year for ROY and you can make a solid case for each.

     

    One thing I think that is being overlooked.

     

    2 ) If RG3 lost his head coach for 12 games, would there even be a contest that its not rg3?

     

    3) Remember we were expansion level at the start of the season.  New head coach, new OC,DC,STC.  Quite a turnaround.  I am happy for that, if Luck wins the ROY thats great if not we had a great year.  A strong case for rg3 is though that his team won its division.

    1 ) It is a different NFL. The gave of football has evolved. High School QB's are running no-huddle offenses, some with the QB calling the plays. They are more advanced for their time in college, then they grow and become more advanced for their NFL careers. It's a far different world than say even 10 years ago.

     

    2 ) That is a fair point in theory, but I believe it has it's flaws. To me Luck would have been affected more in a negative way if it would have been Arians with the illness as opposed to Pagano. RG3 no doubt would have had his development stunted if Shanahan had faced what Pagano has, but a lot of that in my opinion is because Mike is more hands on with the offense than Chuck is with the offense here. He has an offensive background, so there is no doubt it would affect a QB more in that scenario which is different from Andrew.  With that said, the QB/team/assistants/staff/etc have done a commendable job dealing with that issue.  While it is a huge negative for Pagano personally, and thankfully he has returned and his illness is in remission, I believe it has given the team a bit of edge, and by edge I don't really mean a benefit vs. other teams, but more of an edge from an attitude/inspiration perspective.

     

    3 ) While some guys were discarded, I saw nothing of an expansion teams. The last 4(Houston, Cleveland, Jacksonville/Carolina), none of them had a Reggie Wayne, or an Austin Collie(though he didn't play much), or the Freeney/Mathis/Bethea/. There was "turnover" that mimicked an expansion team to a point, but to me the talent level that remained in place from last year far exceeded the typical expansion team. 

  9. Well, that's what I thought too but this link, that was posted in another topic in the colts forum, says differently.  http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/45805/the-policy-dictating-potential-arians-interviews

     

    In particular:

     

     

     

    The article says that these are the league's rules on tampering but doesn't provide a link to the official NFL rules so I'm still completely sure this is 100% accurate. 

     

    i do agree though that all interviewing should be done after the SB has finished, for all teams, not just playoff teams.  That way all coaches are on equal footing and have an equal shot at every open position.  Case in point was last year, had Baltimore gone to the SB then we likely wouldn't have Pagano as our HC because the Colts may not have wanted to wait around that long to finally make a hire, so Pagano would have never even had a shot. 

     

     

    Right on. Teams can't interview assistant coaches during the season. However, there is an exception during the plaoffs, because there is a timely nee for non playoff teams to fill their HC position.  In this case (quotes)-

     

    "The NFL does allow teams to request permission to interview a postseason participant's assistants during the wild card week for teams who have the bye that week. They can also request permission to do so during the first week of Super Bowl preparations as long as there is a two-week break between the conference championships and the Super Bowl. The team only has one chance to talk to the assistant coach, once permission is granted, before the coach's team is eliminated from the playoffs."

     

    Arians can focus on OC dutiesthis week, even if permission is sought and granted, because we don't have a bye and our season is not over yet. At least until Monday.  Then he can interview, win or lose.

     

    I found this-

     

    http://www.prostarcoaching.net/library/NFL_Contact_Rules.pdf

     

     

    I stand corrected. They must have changed that recently. 

  10. Not a real hard kick as I remember ... there was a nice little breeze at his back. I believe he hit about 6 inches behind the ball and missed almost as badly as he did indoors vs Pitt. For a guy that was so accurate , he missed some big pressure kicks. How about the exhibition he put on in that Monday night comeback vs TB ?

    He made some big kicks in the snow in Denver one day. He made some big kicks, but he missed some bigger kicks. I don't know if it was nerves, but to be so accurate for the most part he just didn't have it when it counted at times. 

  11. Yep, right before Mike missed the FG in OT. Declined an encroachment I think.

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    He did, in overtime.  3&12 18&88 hook up on a 11 yard pass to 31.... Accepting the penalty would have given them 3&7 from the 37. He declines it to set Shank up with a 49 yarder.. Snap, spot, kick.......Missed... Miami drives it down the field... Ballgame..

  12. You must not remember Manning had this game won, and Vadershank missed the game winner. Then the Dolphins scored on the first possession in OT. ESPN still made it out to Manning's fault.

     

     

    Your correct that PM played well in that game. Didn't maybe Pathon (?) drop a TD pass to boot. 

     

     

    Didn't Mora channel Caldwell on a horrible call/decision either right before OT, or in  OT.  EIther declining a penalty or something weird... Off to the gamebook to look.. 

  13. My question would be how did this get out ? I would be willing to bet that it didn't come from Tony Romo but from RG3. Taking this at face value , what you say is true. It's no big deal for 1 QB to say something nice to another QB. On the other hand if RG comes out and says " I told Romo etc.. etc , I think he is a bit carried away with himself. 

    It was on Inside the NFL on Showtime..  Live footage...

     

     

    Next in the What do QB's say to each other series..

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  14. RG3 can say anything he wishes after a win or loss......who cares?  Washington Redskins/Dallas Cowboys?????  Does that mean ANYTHING to football fans?  This is arguably the most bitter rivalry in the history of American Football.  The 70s and 80s teams would have been rumbling on the sidelines after a game. (Even under Coach Gibbs :))

     

    I wish there were more rivalries in today's game.....not near as 'chippy' as it used to be.....seeing a toothless Jack Lambert being held/mobbed by Dallas center Center Tom Rafferty.....Too Tall Jones, Harvey Martin and Randy White doing a  :HFire: after Terry Bradshaw and Franco Harris.....wow was that fun.

     

    The ESPN Radio/Skip Bayless club make mountains out of mole-hills.....RG3 is a competitor...... to me there could be a 'zillion things' he could have said a LOT more condescending.....they are...ya know.....division rivals!   ;)  :funny:

     

     

    You do make a valid point Brent. Rivalries in the days of Deacon Jones for example were a lot more heated than they are now. I kind of miss that actually. Genuine disdain for another team, another city, another fan base, and another teams colors. Every athlete in the NFL seems too polite and cordial now. Naturally, I am not condoning violence that spills over into stadium seats or innocent bystanders per say. However, gritty dislike for a division rival seems to have significantly faded as the decades have passed by. Not an inditement overall...Just an observation.

    Those days are long gone. A player would be grilled in the media for being rough like Jones, Lambert or Joe Greene..  I'm guessing if someone tossed a kicker around like Lambert did , they'd get a suspension. 

  15. I don't think that the team(players) quit in many if any games, maybe the New Orleans debacle, but the players kept fighting for the most part.

     

    With that said, the coaching staff did nothing till late in the season when they switched to Orlovsky and ran a simple basic offense.

     

    When Manning went under the knife the 2nd time the Manning offensive system should have been shelved. Signing Kerry Collins some can argue is a panic move, but it is still a move. The problem was having him running Manning's offense with a week to 10 days to grasp it, which blew Polian's foolish Kerry can grasp any offense conceptually in 48hours, or whatever it was that he was spewing.  

     

    Obviously with Collins getting hurt they turned to Painter who while having more time from a knowledge point of view, he did not have the skill set to run the Manning offense. He didn't have the skill set to be on a roster in my opinion, but if you are going to play him, then at least attempt to put him in a position to have some success outside of Garcon breaking a few short throws for long gains/touchdowns. 

     

    So I place blame on the losing record to Peyton Manning's injury. But I put the embarrassing 2-14 record on the ineptitude of the Jim Caldwell,  and Clyde Christensen. Coyer gets his share of the blame, and if there were instructions to not alter the offense from Polian, then more of the blame gets shifted to him. 

     

    I've said before that it seems early on Jim Irsay was given the misinformation that Peyton would never play again. At that point he became fassinated with Andrew Luck, and I don't think the team pulled out all stops to win games. If so, the offense would have been converted to your goal line package, and expanded. Which you would start off with the I formation and your various running plays, you then add the 3wr set, the routes/names/calls etc stay the same there isn't an issue there, but it is a pretty easy concept to accomplish.

     

    Like go-pats said last year wasn't your traditional 2 win team, not with the talent that was on the team. If the offense would have been halfway competent, meaning, higher 3rd down conversions, better completion %, then the defense would've been placed in a better position, which is one way the improved offense has helped the defense out this year. The same can be said for Denver, but that is for another thread.

     

    I won't agree that the team(players) threw away the season. Painter was trying his best, he just wasn't put into a situation that he could succeed. He and Collins both would have performed better in a different system. The team would have had 5-6 wins.

     

    As others have pointed out there were a number of games lost within 6-7-8 points and with better quarterback play some of those games would have been in the win column.

     

    In the preseason, there were tons of expectations threads, and some were throwing out 3k passing yards, 15, td's, and such, heck those #'s were achieved last year, and I was mocked for having high expectations of both the team and a #1 QB. With competent QB this team would be a playoff team. With Manning, I felt they would be a contender just as Denver is...

     

    So I won't buy that the team tanked the season, but I also won't say that they(Polian/Caldwell/Christensen/Coyer/Irsay) pulled out every stop or did the things to prevent the horrendous 2-14 season.   A competent coaching staff would have prevented that.   

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