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Of course IT DID, and he stated it many times, up until his final day, as a matter of fact. But as you say, that is all water under the bridge, now. It's been discussed until the cows came home and went back out again....I dont think the thought entered his mind "oh I want to play here my whole career",
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Agree with all you said... especially the parts in BOLDNone of know what is inside Mannings heart and head when it comes to the Colts so these are all opinions. Mine is he was very hurt by how he was treated. Recall what he said to the Colts before they drafted him, "If you don't draft me I'll whip your butt every time I play you." I think his dream was to build all his statisitics with one team in hopes of making it easier to pile up the numbers he did. Whatever the outcome he was a blast to watch and gave me many grey hairs and sore throats. Thanks to a great athlete and team player.
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now having said that I usually wear this jersey to the games...I don't see wearing my #18 jersey as disrespectul to anyone, I see it as paying respect to #18.
I saw several #32 (James) jerseys, and several #88 (Harrison) jerseys at the games I went to last year. Last I checked, James and Harrison had both been replaced.... I don't remember people making a fuss about that.
it has NO numbers...
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I don't see wearing my #18 jersey as disrespectul to anyone, I see it as paying respect to #18.
I saw several #32 (James) jerseys, and several #88 (Harrison) jerseys at the games I went to last year. Last I checked, James and Harrison had both been replaced.... I don't remember people making a fuss about that.
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But I will wear my #18 Colts SB Jersey (the one in my photo) to the Broncos/Bengals game this year...!!!I wouldn't have a problem with anyone wearing a Colt's #18 jersey to a home game.
But, I wouldn't be thrilled to see Bronco's #18 jerseys.
Sorta reminds me of the fans who bought Texas Tech gear to wear to the IU games.
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I'll have 3 of whatever you're drinking :drink: cheers..!!!I am going to be honest, I am severely disappointed we let go of Jim Caldwell but our other offseason moves have made up for it. His successor may not be as qualified for the job but I gotta say, Pagano has grown on me.
So...
1) we still have a good coaching staff, even if it is different
2) Revamped offense....great QB plus, let's be honest, Fleener and Allen are arguably the best TEs in football (only NE has better).
3) potential for elite defense (great offseason acquisitions + Pagano is a defensive GURU coming from Balt)
To say that I am excited for this season is an understatement. I fully expect us to win the division. It won't be a cake-walk, but we should pull it off. Houston is obviously our biggest competition but a sweep of them gaurantees playoffs.
Cheers....let's get this season started already!
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I can see it now, the FINAL game of Peyton's career.... A Super Bowl Win in Indy....
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Having a win streak "at the end" of the season, is normally a real good time to have a win streak...But that's incredibly subjective. You can't blame it all on injuries, the Colts have always battled injuries, not just that season. And you can't just ignore that crappy stretch, it was part of the season. You can't pick and choose which games to remember when you look back on a season. That season was one of the most inconsistent seasons of the Manning era, at our best we had a four win steak, and that was right up at the end.
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1. Yes
2. Yes (I've had Reggie the past two years, and will take him again if available)
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several words come to mind.... pathetic, inexcusable, unbelievable to mention a few. And only reiterates my feelings of how proud I am of Peyton Manning, and Andrew Luck and the examples they show on the field, and the lives they live off the field.
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no need to apologize.... it's been entertaining.sry got carrying away today on this thread . . . i am done for the night . . .
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that was quickly...?? just kidding with ya...I will quickly say one thing about 4th and 2, and we kind of need to think about basketball and the 2 for 1 teams go for at the end of a qtr where they take a quick shot (say after 10 secs into the shot clock) you put a shot with say 32 seconds, knowing that even tho you didn't run your entire set of play in the possession, you know you are going to get a second possession (unless the opponent gets an off rebound) before the end of qtr . ..
I think with the 4th and 2, BB figured that I got a 65% (or whatever chance) to convert and end the game, btw he, or TB, even mentioned in a presser that had they gotten the first down they would ran three plays and then punted and essentially ended the game . . . but back to BB, i think he figured i got a 65% to end the game, and even if i don't there is not much real estate left for the colts (29 yards to the endzone) and like 2 mins to go, and they likey try to pass and might get in the red, we'll try to stop them on the first set of down and end the game, but if they get in the red zone, let them score and we are only down one and get the back with a fresh of down . . .
now most people would not bring over the 2 for 1 philopshy over to football, but if B. Merriwether not tackled Addai at the one yard line (i think he ran through a whole from like the 15) , we get the ball back only down one with like a minute play . . .
so for me i see the 4th and 2 as a situation where you got like a 65% to basically end the game (convert , run three plays then punt if needed) and you get a second opportunity to win the game if the colts score cause you will only be down one with time on the clock . ..
however if you punt, you dont get that initial opportunity to convert PLUS it will take the colts time to get back to the 29, and if you are playing prevent D and with the colts skill they will highly likely get back to the 29 but with a lot less than 2 mins and if they do score the time might be out . . .
this of coarse would not work with say 4 mins+ on the clock, becuase you will get the ball anyway, nor would it with lest than say 90 seconds, are your better off punting and make them go the length of the field in a minute . . .
but like in basketball in that 40 second no man zone where you make a quick play to give you another possession before thr buzzer . . .the 2 min point was no mans land, cause if you punt you kind of have no opportunity (i.e. you gave up the 4th possible conversion and if they score little time for ur last possession) and if you for it on 4th down you might get two cracks at the apple . .. .
surely if you had weaker offense opposing you, one might punt . . .
i will say this about the brillance of PM, with all of this swirling around, all of the talk, and shock, PM had the present of mind to go in the huddle make sure that his team did not score too quickly . . . easy in hindsight to say this, i remember PM saying the presser after the game that is what he said in the huddle, kind of mind game with BB . . .I think PM realized what was going on and was going to do his best to prevent the pats from having that second bite at the apple . . .
altho i do think that Merriwether did not get the memo, becuase from what i remember Addai was not touch from the 14 yard line till he hit merriwether at the goal, . . . i think the pats at that point figured let them score
okay i said my two cents . . . i m done . . .
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I would say all of the above, but mostly
A. Don't live in Indiana
We still manage to get to at least one game a year, sometimes two.
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I certainly "get" how HUGE Peyton was to this organization, I have in my Home a "Colts Den" which has been pointed out to me lately would be more aptly named the "MAN(ning) CAVE.... Lots of Peyton (and Eli) memorabilia. And I get there will always be comparisions much like the ones stated above, but it gets tiring... particularly when so much bickering amongst fans who are supposed to be for the same team..I get why the comparisons are tiring, but I don't think it's reasonable to expect them not to be made. Manning was huge for this franchise, and the hope is that Luck will be as well. Fair or not, Luck will be living in Manning's shadow for a while, just as Young was in Montana's shadow, Rodgers was in Favre's, etc. This topic is bound to come up from time to time.
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No disrespect intended for anyone posting in this thread, but I really wish these types of threads would cease to be created in the first place, or shut down when they do. No good has ever come, or will ever come from a thread like this comparing these two. All Andrew can and needs to do is be himself, play "HIS" game. Nothing he does or doesn't do will have any bearing on Peyton's Legacy, and vice versa for that matter. These threads get annoying...
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I had missed that eariler, now she has "4" ;)lol you already got 3 likes for that.
If all it took to pad my rep numbers is pics of Manning from the usual suspects then why didn't someone alarm me of this months ago!!!! Darn it.
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I was wondering the same thing, but then again, I am blonde, so thought maybe it was just me not getting it..Is there a point in there anywhere? If so chisel away at it so it can be known.
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I use my own photos, and I change it periodically . Right now mine is a photo of my grandkids.
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where are the laughs this thread promised me.....???
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because he can ;)That's a house? Looks like a hotel. Let's say he plays there for 3 years, then retires. I would assume he would either go back to New Orleans or Indy....why get such a huge home in Denver?
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I had a dream last night that we could ALL get along...
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thanks for clearing that up. I guess we'll all see and learn the answer soon enough. No secret here, I'm hoping he has a record breaking year.I think I might have gotten to wordy for my own good there. What I was trying to say was this, It has been said that the nerves in Peytons arm may never be back to 100 percent or that his arm strength may not be either, the concern I would have isnt for his neck, Doctors have said thats good, its for the nerves in his arm that has me concerned, I wonder if there could be more damage that can be done to that when he takes sacks, which he obviously will every quarterback does
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I've read this a half dozen times, and still not clear what you're trying to say.... :???:The neck isnt the question for me, the question for me is this, if that arm is likely never to return to 100 percent again then what are the odds of it being much less then what it would be if he wasnt going to be taking hits. which obviously he will be taking hits and will take an occassional sack as it is only natural for any Quarterback to take some sacks
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