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Can? Yes. I wouldn't give great odds, we certainly would need to be luckier on the injury front than we were last year for a start. Bu yes, a miracle run is possible.
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The one thing above all others I don't want is to force a rookie QB to learn on the job with no recourse if that plan fails. One of the smartest ways to do that is to not waste the resources we've already spent on Brissett in order to make a knee-jerk move for a name brand guy for just 1-2 bridge years.
I think we solve our QB issues in the draft, and use next year to measure the strength of the roster and bring the new QB up to speed in a conservative manner, taking our sweet time to get him ready to go before we throw him to the wolves.
If we wind up playing above ourselves and making the playoffs so be it but this team is still quite young, and I think the #1 goal is to develop our young personnel into professionals. if we do it right a playoff appearance will be the obvious consequence anyway. It's the decision to panic and play mad scientist on a rebuild that by and large is working beautifully so far, that will lead to disaster.
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4 hours ago, Fisticuffs111 said:
I don’t really think anything too negative would make its way out regardless. Especially with how tight lipped it’s been under Ballard.
I actually happen to think Reich is one of JB’s bigger fans, and I think Ballard’s okay with him starting for another year. But I just can’t see Ballard wanting to stake his job long term on JB.
IIn my mind it comes down to Irsay, not Ballard or Reich. He's been the one making noise, and was the one who orchestrated that visit by Tom Brady.
If he puts his foot down, Brissett is gone. If Ballard still has muscle in the office though I think we'll draft a guy behind Brissett, jettison Hoyer, and start the season with Brissett and Kelly.
From a purely dispassionate standpoint as a GM you have to look at the roster we have and decide whether we're a playoff team next year. And honestly, the roster has a lot of strength but some pretty glaring weaknesses, especially on offense, that will take more than a new QB to sort out.
All of the best possible solutions to the QB issues involve waiting 1 more year. We need to see what we have with Kelly. I want to see what Brissett does with a healthy year. We need to see who we draft and how that draftee develops. And anyway, it might take more than 1 season to sort out the massive trainwreck at WR and regenerate the team at TE.
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13 minutes ago, AwesomeAustin said:
This forum is going to be a nightmare all year when It becomes apparent JB is the starter. I just don’t see anyone available that should obviously replace him without mortgaging the farm. This next move will decide the careers of Ballard and Reich and I’m betting they will be cautious to a fault.
Not only that, Ballard and Reich both like Brissett. It's the fans and the media that are driving this desperate effort to run Brissett out of town. None of it is coming from inside the team.
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On 2/22/2020 at 10:08 PM, EastStreet said:
LOL,, we know via previous polls most want to move on, and I didn't want this to turn into another JB debate.
It should still be an option. Otherwise you're going to get a skewed outcome
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4 minutes ago, Myles said:
Everyone is different, but me? I'd be happy making the money he is now without having to preform much. Jim Sorgi made over $5 million dollars in 7 years without having to start an NFL game. That's the career I would like.
Yeah that's me too but I wouldn't want a guy with that attitude being a starting QB on my football team. I want a guy thirsty to prove himself, not a simple jobsworth.
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15 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:
The only problem is that Kelly makes more as a 3rd string NFL qb then he would make as an XFL starter.
In the short term, that's true. In the medium term, which is more likely to propel him into a starting role in the NFL 2-3 years from now, rotting on the third string in the Indy practice squad, or being on live TV and demonstrating his talent under the second-brightest lights in football?
Turning down tens of thousands of dollars to play in the XFL is foolish, unless it's the gateway to a much better chance to sign later on for millions. Being in the limelight and showcasing your talent may be a better career move than languishing on a practice squad, especially since Kelly still has no clear inside track on actually cracking the roster or playing an NFL game.
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6 hours ago, Thunderbolt said:
Rivers will give us instant playoffs this year while a new rookie qb will be the understudy. Also I see Jb being traded.
Rivers will not give us instant playoffs. Phillip Rivers has always been talented, but somehow substantially less than the sum pf his parts.
I'm not against a JB trade, but not if the guy you're bringing in is Phillip Rivers. At this point in Rivers' career it would more or less be rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic, and probably paying handsomely for the privilege.
Besides, just a reminder here, the noise against Brissett is coming entirely from outside the organization. There's still no evidence that the people inside the organization are prepared to do anything with Brissett. And one thing we know about Ballard is that he won't make moves just for the sake of having made a move.
Most likely scenario is still "Brissett starts the season with a new high round draft pick as his understudy." If I had to lay out money, that's where I'd put it at the moment. We'll see.
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Do we let him go or try to keep him around? Do we promise him playing time if that's what it took or is it better just to let him start over somewhere else at this point?
Do we even care what happens to Chad Kelly anymore?
Cause I'm just thinking if I'm Chad Kelly's agent, the XFL doesn't pay as much as an NFL practice squad but it's a chance to get my client's name out there. Get him on TV and let people see him in action. That's more valuable than a few extra grand.
In Kelly's situation I'd walk away from the NFL practice squad and sign with the TB Vipers or another struggling XFL team to get on TV, get into games, help springboard my NFL ambitions 2-3 years down the road.
So the only question in my mind is, do we, as Colts fans, care about this? Or are we just waiting for a mutual parting of the ways?
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3 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
Hey..., it’s my opinion and my opinion only. But don’t be surprised if you don’t find much support for your view pretty much anywhere.
Who agrees with you?
Which website agrees with you? If there is one, I’m not aware of it.
Remember... you’re not arguing he’s very good or good or above average. You’re arguing ... he sucks. Now today, in this post, you’ve moved to “over-rated”. And you may get some support for that. But at some point you have to take a stand.... what is he? Does he suck? Is he only good or something else?
Inquiring minds want to know.....
My take on Wentz is that hes very talented but not a leader at all, a bit like Roethlisberger. He makes the team better when he's on the field but he plays too aggressively and takes bad risks that get him hurt. And his personality in the locker room is less than inspiring.
It says something when members of Wentz's own team, to his face, are openly criticizing the guy's perceived lack of leadership. That's just not done, when it gets to that point either the QB or the clique of malcontented players are usually gone in fairly short order.
No doubt Wentz can bring it on the field, but you and I and everyone who's ever played or watched football knows that the field is less than half the battle sometimes. A quarterback that loses the locker room is not a great quarterback no matter what caliber the arm howitzer is.
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11 hours ago, aaron11 said:
it makes sense for both him and the team. i do think it will be hard for him and his family to get over all the trash we talked after deflategate. if you look around the fans are not exactly supporting the idea now either
You're giving the fans more credit for long term memory than they actually deserve. Brady starts winning us games then he's now ours,, and other than a few holdouts it'll stay that way until the moment it suddenly isn't.
As for the holdouts, every fanbase has its curmudgeons and this one is no different. If we do sign Brady and he wins here, those will be the only people that give a damn about the past.
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Yes. The man ran Andrew Luck into the ground.
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On 2/12/2020 at 5:14 PM, richard pallo said:
Be careful Chris. Remember the last time you thought you had a Patriot signed and he left you holding the bag and he stayed with them. "The rivalry is back on".
The rivalry is pretty one way over the last decade. We hate them, they don't give a damn because literally everyone hates them
Anyway, the fact of the matter is that McDaniels was absolutely right to bail on us. Irsay and Ballard were leading him on with promises of a healthy Luck, which turned out to be a complete whopper. McD knows quarterbacks and he'd figure that out pretty fast, unfortunately for Irsay McD had time to bail out and go back to his comfortable New England job rather than wreck his career for Brissett.
Next time make sure you get ink on a sheet before giving a guy a look behind the curtain.
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On 2/12/2020 at 3:56 PM, Fisticuffs111 said:
Aside from all this, whether true or not, just can’t see him wanting to come here and take Jacoby’s spot.
I can see him wanting to come here and take Manning's old job. He had a very healthy friendship with Manning, and is just that competitive.
This is a good team that is well suited to what a guy like Brady can do. Mutual interest is reasonable.
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On 2/12/2020 at 3:18 PM, Colts1324 said:
Is that tampering?
After the Superbowl? I wouldn't say so.
Anyway, the Brady-to-Indy rumors just picked up a lot of heat regardless of what this was or wasn't
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I do want to clarify one thing from my earlier posts. People were responding as if I want to keep Brissett and start him. As if I think everything is fine. obviously not the case. Brissett looked like he was going to come through in the first half of the season, but hte undeniable fact is that the other half of the season also happened.
All I'm arguing for is that if we want a QB to cover the season while we bring a draft pick up to speed, it's a better use of assets to start the guy we have until the rookie is ready, rather than to try to do everything at once, bring in a luxury starter and draft a high profile rookie too.
I get the feeling that we want to compete next year too, but if you spend too many assets trying to set up the perfect situation in any one position, it will rob us of the ability to field a balanced roster. We have other desperate needs that we also need to focus on, besides QB.
I'd rather roll with what we have plus one rookie QB in the first couple rounds, and pick up a meaty DE, another solid all round TE and a couple WR with some flash rather than throwing away the money and assets we need to do all these things trying to get cute in one area.
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8 hours ago, Jared Cisneros said:
What most people are ignoring with Brissett is that his season is a tale of two halves, not one consistent performance. Which means you have to look at context. The 5-2 (or 5-3 start) was nice, but he had an 8 game sample size afterward where teams adjusted to him and he struggled.
Or, like people who actually watched the games noticed, he got hurt in the Broncos game in week 8, when Von Miller pushed one of our OL into Brissett's knee. Making you about half right, it was indeed "a tale of two halves."
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6 hours ago, EastStreet said:
. JB really doesn't provide ample "mentoring".
you literally have no way of knowing this
6 hours ago, EastStreet said:Scenario B: We bring in a FA like Carr. He's only 28, so should at minimum 4 more years before age becomes a concern. If you bring him in to be your starter, why not let him mentor Kelly as he fills the back-up roll.
Carr costs assets we could be using to accomplish other objectives. you can bet that Ballard will be aware of this. He won't make moves just for the sake of making moves. Which is basically what you're calling for.
6 hours ago, EastStreet said:Brissett is currently set to be the 10th highest paid QB in 2020 at $21.5M... And most of that (14ish IIRC) is already guaranteed. So that leaves only about 7M in question.
Plus whatever it costs in draft assets to replace Brissett with another veteran, minus the return we get for Brissett himself, which as you note, is going to be pretty paltry for a number of reasons, including this one.
6 hours ago, EastStreet said:Feels like you're grasping a little here. Is marginal "value" and "utility" now the new narrative for keeping JB?
Not sold on keeping JB. Also not sold on making moves for the sake of making moves.
BTW your math is off. You're ignoring the guaranteed portion of Brissett's and Hoyer's money. Like you said, there's actually only about 11 mil of cap room in play right now, but you're ignoring the fact that guaranteed money also counts against the cap, so bringing in an expensive veteran like Carr or Rivers would result in some pretty significant dead cap until the end of this season. The only way to clear that cap is to find a buyer for Brissett. Do you see that happening?
We're kind of "pot committed" to Brissett for next year.
It's not an insurmountable issue, but it's worth thinking about.
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7 hours ago, Shafty138 said:
Note the massive difference in team talent, coaching talent, etc... How many of those four wins were due to all of the improvements in his game? In what areas did he show substantial growth and development to Garner those wins this past year, as opposed to 2017?
The "massive difference" in team talent, coaching talent, etc resulted in Andrew Luck leading both the 2016 team and the 2018 team to the playoffs despite their obvious flaws.
Not necessarily saying you're dead wrong here, but the point you're making is hideously overblown
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6 hours ago, lincolndefan said:
Sorry, i didn't explain properly. I mean JB should not start. In fact, i believe he shouldn't be on the team next season.
Well, I can't say you're wrong, but consider this: Whatever you get for moving on from Brissett won't be nearly as much as the value you have to spend to bring in a veteran QB who's maybe the difference from QB#25 to QB#18-12.
THat marginal utility is probably not worth the cost in assets when we have Tyrod Taylor 2.0 already on the roster.
There's maybe 2-3 QB in the entire NFL that are both better than Brissett and attainable for a reasonable cost in cash and assets. If we don't get those guys, I'll be all fo holding onto JB until this new QB, whether it be a draft pick or whether it be a successfully salvaged Swag, is ready to go.
Because that's another thing to consider. Swag IS out there. He IS talented. We don't know how Ballard sees him exactly, but we do know he's had a million opportunities to cut him and has gone out of his way not to.
We also have enough other needs (TE, DL, WR) that a high profile draft asset spent on a QB might be undesirable in light of what we already have on the roster.
Just saying, it's worth considering in light of the overall discussion we're having
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7 hours ago, Hammer said:
I don't want to waste another year. We need to move up and draft a QB..Any day 1 QB. With Jacoby at the helm, we'll be hovering around the .500 mark again. Will be in the same position again next year. We've watched Jacoby for almost 2 full seasons. I just don't see any improvement.
2017: 3-13
2019: 7-9
Nope, no improvement at all.
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4 hours ago, lincolndefan said:
Would be a great mistake! IMO
History disagrees with you. Most of the greats sat for a year or 2 behind another QB. Brady behind Blesdoe, Rodgers behind Favre, Mahomes behind Smith, etc.
When you throw a rookie right into the fire on week 1 day one that's a tough emotional hurdle to clear. More than 1 promising QB has been destroyed that way. Some do fine of course, but enough don't that you have to consider whether it's worth the risk, especially when the risk is almost completely unnecessary, all you have to do to avoid being forced into that risk is NOT get rid of your incumbent starter
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On 2/4/2020 at 8:35 PM, shastamasta said:
If I had to guess...the underlying point of this thread is to imply that because a JB-led Colts team beat the Super Bowl champs...a JB-led Colts team can win at the highest level.And to guess a bit more...I bet the OP had a “JB = Jimmy G“ post geared to go when SF won...but SF lost...so this post was the backup.
You're not a good guesser.
The point of this thread is to note the win as an interesting bit of trivia that's maybe worth a bit of optimism.
Frankly, JB did not play that well in this win. He didn't play awful but it was a low scoring game that was dictated mostly by the defense.
I do love the conspiracy theory though. A+ for effort.
And for the record, Brissett is nowhere near the natural thrower Jimmy G is.
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Can the Colts win a SB right now?
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See, putting "Phillip Rivers" and "Super Bowl" in the same post just destroys all your credibility.
There are upgrades that would dramatically increase our chances of a Superbowl. Phillip Rivers isn't one of them. He's a high rolling gunslinger who routinely comes up small in the biggest moments, and has a habit of creating turnovers in the worst possible situations. (not as bad as Famous Jameis, obviously, nobody is as bad as famous Jameis, but Rivers has led the league in interceptions twice in his career)
IMHO Rivers is exactly what we don't need. All stats no substance. At least Brissett can orchestrate a few comebacks and plays a conservative style that won't shoot us in the foot with turnovers.
For the record, Brissett's pick rate was ~1/3 of Rivers'. 1.3% vs 3.4%. He might "hold the ball too long" but for a guy who averaged less than 30 attempts per game, he was pretty efficient.