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On 12/13/2019 at 9:47 AM, Chloe6124 said:
We need to find a RG just like him.
The ship may have already sailed, but I'm hoping we can get a very solid RT and move Smith into RG (I think Smith does fine outside, but think he's a little more natural inside).
On a side note: the clips of Q's basketball all-star game were at the gym I went to HS at -- always gotta root for a fellow Jersey Shore guy.
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On 12/11/2019 at 2:08 PM, chad hugo said:
It may not be shot, I don't think TY is the type of person to create unnecessary drama with other teammates.
Also, the hate on Luck is still ongoing i see, leave the man be... It's pathetic
When he says 'other guys', if he was talking about a teammate, it'd be Ebron more likely than not.... that said, there are plenty of players in the NFL who have recently quit on their team for seemingly selfish reasons.... and it seems like WRs are the most 'prima donna' position in the NFL, he could have just said it with no ill intention toward anyone directly but he could also be calling out WRs from other teams.
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On 12/14/2019 at 5:32 PM, WoolMagnet said:
I’m kinda giving this season a pass. With the Luck thing, kicking thing, and so many injuries deep at some positions, its hard for me to see exactly where the issues stem.
I just hope there are clear plans going forward to address these issues. The AFC south is no longer a joke. No more free lunches.
Also, Frank seemed more “natural” last year. This year, several times a game i am surprised by a play call. It seems out of place, not in the groove of the game. Also, it felt like he was indecisive. Last year i felt i knew who we were on offense and defense. This year, both sides felt undefined at times.
Last year it was about attacking. I didnt see much of that this year. Not much at all. “Running the damn ball” sounds great and all, but all my life i’ve heard “points come from the passing game.” Just ask Ron Jaworski. I can literally hear his voice.
But i still think Reich is the man for the job.....obviously.
Obviously we lost Luck unexpectedly (at least to fans) just before the start of the season. I think Jacoby has done pretty well considering the circumstances (I don't think he's secured himself as the long-term starter/franchise QB, but I don't think he's done poorly enough to justify that he is not capable of being our guy moving forward).
We are 1-5 in 6 games which TY has not played in. He is obviously our best WR (and a pro-bowl caliber NFL WR). Many of us expected big things from Funchess, and he seemed to have a nice chemistry w/ Jacoby throughout camp and in week 1 before he went down for the year. A lot were expecting Deon Cain to be back fully healthy, he wasn't what we were expecting (nor, from what the coaches and GM were saying in the offseason was he what they were expecting). Campbell has shown flashes, but he's been hurt too often.
That leaves us with a group of WRs who were never drafted, instead signed as UDFAs. Pascal has played very well, for the most part. Looks like Marcus Johnson can be pretty good for us. We just brought Inman back off the street.
To be honest, you're probably right about Jaworski's quote. That said, injuries (along with Luck's retirement) have decimated the expectations we had for the passing game prior to the season. I'm not saying I agree with every single one of Reich's calls this year, but we have been in every game with a good chance to win all but one of them. I can't say for sure, but I imagine some of Reich's play calling has been hampered by the personnel we have on the field.
On 12/14/2019 at 5:43 PM, 2006Coltsbestever said:You would think the 4th Qtr would be our best Qtr because of our O.line wearing out teams but it has been our worst. Makes no sense.
To some extent, I agree. To counter-argue, though, I would say that when you look at some of the injuries we have suffered on offense (both prior to games or within a game), our offense can be made pretty one-dimensional at times. When TY's out (and Funchess is out, and Campbell is out or hurt, and Ebron is hurt, etc.), we don't have great options in the passing game and I think other teams have a good idea what they're going to get from us in the 4th based on the players we have on the field.
19 hours ago, LockeDown said:Every breakdown I read or listen to lately all show our players don’t seem to know where they are supposed to be and are not executing well. I hope it’s just because We are a young team.
We are a young team. We also are relying mainly on undrafted players at the WR and TE position with injuries to TY, Funch, Ebron, etc... some of them have played pretty well, and if they are out of position, some of that should fall on the coach.... but, the fact of the matter is there is a reason why players go undrafted and that reason (if not for off-field issues) is usually because they're not the most talented players available.
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4 hours ago, EastStreet said:
This is credit to the OL, which he is making it much harder on.....
A slow trigger is also not what Reich's O calls for.
He's missed a lot more than a few.
Not turning the ball over is not the only thing that goes into a QB. He's barely good in that stat given his low attempts.
We've had a pro bowl TE all year, and a TE that lead the league in TDs for most of the year. We also had Luck's #2 WR most of the year, and his X that started half the year. If you compare snap counts and production from this year to last, JB had more talent than Luck did last year through the same games.
But.... Let's take injury away and look purely at healthy time and stats in common.....
Even a guy like Hines who is a great check down option, has regressed significantly in YPG, and he's been played every game. Doyle has regressed significantly in YPG and played every game. TY even in healthy games, has regressed significantly. The only WR to increase his production/YPG is Pascal, and it nothing to write home about....
In short, if all you hang onto is low INT%, then you're in denial. Luck is gone, and you could say he's special and we shouldn't expect as much from JB... but the level of regression of most pass catchers, in addition to pretty mediocre or bad stats makes it pretty clear he's just not a franchise guy.
We have 2 guys who used to be pro bowl TEs. Ebron struggled with his drops this year more so than last year.
Reich also made it very clear in the off-season (before Luck retired) that he was going to put much more emphasis on the run this year. With 3 games left, we have surpassed our total from all of last year. We're playing a different style of ball this year. I'm sure some of it's due to a decline in QB performance from Andrew to JB, but the plan was to run the ball a lot more before Luck went down.
I beg to differ regarding Luck having less talent than JB last year. TY's missed games and in several games he has played, he's been banged up. Funchess went down week 1. After that, our WRs are really not good (not that Luck's were last year, either, but we didn't have a running game and Luck hasn't had to deal w/ near as many injuries to his supporting cast as Jacoby has).
I'm not hanging on to his low INT% as the only thing why I don't think JB is a horrible QB. JB found out he'd be the starter ~2 weeks before the season and his team has been banged up. His kicker has lost at least 5 games. He's doing fine at what he's asked to do. Ballard made it clear from day 1, we're not going to expect him to be Andrew... there are almost no QBs in the league you could expect to be Andrew. And no, JB is not in Andrew's league, but he's not a bad, terrible QB like you seem to insist.
4 hours ago, EastStreet said:He's lost at times while also playing behind a horrid OL and bad running game. It was all on him... and much easier to game plan against. You take none of that into consideration.
Sure he lost to Jax. He had about 250 yards if IIRC, and we couldn't even run for 50 yards. Ramsey also shut down TY. It was one of the worst game plans I've ever seen. It was also a game that was 99% on Reich, who went for it on 4th and short 3 times, and all three times we were in FG range. That's leaving 9pts on the field.
You are disingenuous as you stress your narrative while acting blind to everything counter.
Not sure Luck was easier to game plan against. Jacoby has been throwing to a banged up TY, lost his #2 WR, lost his #1 TE, and now he's got guys coming up from the practice squad or off the street who he gets to throw to.
3 hours ago, Pacergeek said:Ballard's reluctance to buy star players leads me to believe that he feels he is capable of drafting star players. In his third season, I would say Ballard has drafted only 2 star players, Nelson and Leonard, which is not close to being good enough.
Hooker has been very good for us when healthy. Mack has been very good for us when healthy. Andrew Walker is a good player. Stewart is coming into his own.
Nelson and Leonard are bonafide studs. B. Smith is a very solid player for us. Turay was playing very nicely prior to his injury. Hines and Wilkins have been solid for us as change-of-pace backs. Fountain looked like he was really coming into his own before his injury this year.
Ya-Sin has been solid, for the most part, and he'll get better. Banogu is showing a lot of signs of being a good player (he was drafted as an athlete who they'd coach to develop into a footballer). Campbell has been bitten by the injury bug, but he showed a lot of flashes when he was on the field (he was also drafted as kind of a project). Okerere is looking like he can be a very solid NFL guy. Willis has been solid, as has Tell.
While a few guys are on other teams or on the IR, every single player Ballard has drafted since becoming a GM is still in the league after 3 years. I would highly doubt there are more than 2-3 (if any) other GMs in the league that could say that.
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1 hour ago, Chloe6124 said:
I still think there is a chance Ballard decides to take a stud DT and WR and see what a offseason can do for Jacoby. It’s almost unfair to judge him with all the weird things that have happened. Not to mention given the starting job 2 weeks before the season. Especially the kicking game. He might decide to see what he can do with healthy and upgraded weapons and a offseason where he is the starter. I can imagine he will do a lot more to improve his game in the off season knowing he is the starter. I won’t be surprised if Kelly gets some playing time the last two games to see if he is backup material. If he can earn the backup spot that creates some competion with Jacoby. The forum will explode if he passes on a couple of these quarterbacks.
Frankly, I don't really see a QB in the draft or a young FA who will come in and be better than Jacoby. Where we will likely be picking won't get us (without significant trade) up high enough to get a guy like Burrow of Herbert. Maybe we take someone like Jordan Love with our extra second round pick or in the 3rd and try to develop him for a year under Jacoby... I'm just not really blown away by any of the QB prospects coming out this year, at least not right off the bat.
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2 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:
We have had two 100 yard WR that were undrafted. That says a lot. Jacoby might be struggling but the hate for him is overrated. We have had double digit leads the last three games. It’s not just the offense struggling in the fourth. It’s also the defense. The 4th quarter struggles have been on both sides of the balk. The accuracy issues I think can be corrected with a entire offseason knowing he will be the starter next year. The deep ball stuff seems to have been maybe just a confidence issue. He clearly has touch once in awhile. He showed it Sunday. It just needs to get more consistent. WE will probably draft the future but I am not giving up on him next year if he starts. If WR stay healthy and we add a couple weapons I can see him improving next season. When your missing playmakers like a TY it is going to hurt you in the 4th quarter. You need those kind of guys down the stretch of games.
Going into the season, I thought we had a very formidable 1-2 WR group with TY and Funchess. I had higher hopes for Cain and thought Campbell would really blossom as the season went on.
Funchess got hurt for the year after it looked like he and Jacoby had nice chemistry week 1. Cain wasn't the Cain the colts.com documentaries were making him out to be. TY has been banged up for a good chunk of the season. Campbell has shown flashes, but he's been hurt or injured almost all season.
On top of that, I thought Ebron and Doyle would be one of the most formidable TE groups in the league. Ebron had multiple bad drops along the way and is now on the IR. Doyle's had an all right year, but the rest of our TE's are nothing better than mediocre (at least at receiving).
While J. Williams also had a couple of good games, our running attack was without our #1 for a couple weeks and our team didn't win with Mack on the injury report.
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1 hour ago, Jdubu said:
If you honestly believe the crap you just typed, I don’t know what to tell you. JB has not performed well all season, except a few parts of games this year. Every metric a QB gets rated by has to be near the bottom for JB, with the exceptions of int’s perhaps, I’ll give him that. No matter what excuse you put on him, he just is what he is, a back up QB, he is NOT a starter and hopefully after this season, he gets placed back on the bench where he does his best work. Great guy and teammate I’m certain. Good QB, extremely debatable.
Brissett isn't the Luck or Peyton that we're used to, that's for sure. That said, he's playing with back ups all around him and still keeping us in almost every game. Literally, this week we'll have Chad Williams who was a 3rd rounder (and has been a bust so far), and then all other UDFA guys at TE and WR. I guarantee you we're the only team in the league that between their tight end and WR group has only 1 drafted player.
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2 hours ago, EastStreet said:
Below are stats pre TB that I listed in another thread...
In the individual stats, he's got 2 bad, one horrible, one average, and one barely good (INT%). If you take into account his low attempts, he's not that great at all. QBR and AVG are the two best measurements overall for a QB IMO, and well, both bad...
In short, I weigh a lot more on what he "does do" that's good (which is very little), rather than "what he doesn't do" that's bad (INT%).
Never called him great... just saying he's played well enough for us to win just about every week. While his time to throw is high, he's the 26th least sacked QB in the league. I know he's missed a few reads throughout the season, but he's not turning the ball over or taking many sacks. I think it's worth keeping in mind that after Campbell went to IR, we currently have three TEs who were all undrafted free agents in the past, and one healthy WR who was drafted (in the 3rd round by AZ in 2017, Chad Williams), the rest are UDFAs until TY gets healthy. He's not really surrounded with much talent to get the ball to when he's not handing it off.
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2 minutes ago, EastStreet said:
In most stats, JB is horrible to bad, with a a few mediocre average ranks sprinkled in. If "doing enough to keep us in" is what you want from a QB, you should apply the same to all the other positions.
He's thrown 6 INTs, only 3 other QBs who have played the same amount of games as Jacoby have less (Wilson, Cousins, Rodgers). His completion rate is middle of the pack. His yards are on the low end (but he's also had less throwing attempts than 23 other QBs). His TDs are in the middle of the pack. His RTG is middle of the pack. His average yards per completion are low (but we haven't really seen many deep ball attempts, nor do we have any real deep ball receiving threats with TY having been hurt).
None of his stats are 'horrible.' He protects the ball better than almost any QB in the league. Reich stated before the season that he would establish a run game, which for the most part he's done. We throw less than most teams. Brissett's top weapon for several weeks has been a 2nd year undrafted FA. The 4 WR's everyone expected to be our 'stars' this year have not panned out (TY has been injured for several weeks and played where his injury was very obvious for at least one week, Funchess had a nice TD grab game one and got hurt, Campbell has been mostly hurt, and Cain got cut --- recently Ebron got put on IR).
Luck relied on comebacks in many of his wins. It was not like we were consistently blowing teams out when he was our QB. He could win games by himself it seemed at times, but he also had a lot of his comebacks because of careless mistakes early in games (INTs). Brissett rarely throws INTs (Luck had the 3rd most INTs in the league last year, Brissett has the 4th least). If not for our kicking game alone, this team should have at least 9 wins (probably 11).
Very few QBs in the NFL can consistently win games by themselves (this year we have Brees, L. Jackson and Rodgers who seem to be able to do it, maybe Wilson, maybe Brady though he's looked vulnerable the past several weeks). Brissett has played well enough for us to be a 9-11 win team (he doesn't kick field goals or hold snaps).
I don't think Brissett is better than Luck was, by any means. I don't know for certain that Brissett is our future franchise QB. However, I don't see many (if any) better options this offseason. I think it's fair to give Brissett another year and hopefully see him improve with increased weapons (that'll involve TY healthy, Campbell healthy and with a bit more experience, and the addition of at least another very good WR and potentially improvements to the TE position).
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2 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:
I am not saying he will get fired next year. I am saying If he picks the QB wrong (which he will probably do this off-season) it’s going to lead to him ultimately getting fired. I’d be shocked if that was next year.
I don't know that a QB anywhere near Luck's caliber will be available next year (unless Luck comes out of retirement). I imagine we'll be sticking with Jacoby and giving him another year with hopefully more weapons (weather it means our current guys get healthy or he drafts/signs another WR or two).
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On 12/8/2019 at 7:51 PM, EastStreet said:
Because we'd be 13-0 likely if we had Luck. I'm not a Ballard worshiper, but this isn't on him. He's upgraded or made solid attempts to upgrade every unit after inheriting what was mostly a dumpster fire in terms of depth and talent.
Even the JB fan club knows this boils down to the change of QB.
Not saying we don't need upgrades in several areas, but who here thinks we're not at least at 11-2 had Luck not left and playing for a 1 seed right now, even with all the injuries.
On 12/8/2019 at 7:55 PM, CanuckColt said:Maybe not 11-2, but we would be leading the division with a healthy Andrew.
We could be 11-2 if our kicking game didn't lose at least 5 games for us this year.... I think Luck is a better QB than Brissett, but I think Brissett has kept us in every game he has played, and has given us a good chance at winning all but 1 game. Vinatieri is the GOAT in terms of kickers, maybe he was hurt all year, or maybe he should've hung up the cleats... but he lost us several games this year. The new guy missed one yesterday and we lost by 3.
On 12/8/2019 at 8:05 PM, GoColts8818 said:I think Ballard will ultimately be judged on what he does or doesn’t do this off-season. Namely at the QB position. Most give him a pass right now because there wasn’t much he could do two weeks before the season at that position beyond what he’s done. This off-season he has to find “the guy” rather it’s Jacoby or someone else. If he’s right he’s going to be praised. If he’s wrong it will probably ultimately lead to him being fired.
I don't think he's getting fired after next year. He inherited a very poor team and we have gotten much better with almost a complete roster overhaul.
On 12/8/2019 at 8:06 PM, Pelt said:The guy was building the team with the understanding that Luck was going to be his QB.
But Luck screwed the team over 2 weeks before the season opener, which has thrown the trajectory of this build off by a decent margin.
He's had to (Along with the rest of us) sit back and see what he had with Brissett going forward.
And knowing I'm just guessing here, I would say that Ballard going to see Love play recently tells me he's near the same ballpark in being as satisfied with Brissett's play as the rest of us are.
I don't think Luck 'screwed the team over.' He obviously had a worse injury than the media was reporting. He's already had a lacerated kidney, nearly had a shoulder injury end his career, and who knows what other kinds of injuries.
As I stated above, Brissett has played well enough to give us a shot to win all but 1 game. He can't control our kickers missing FGs and extra-points. He's had a good season overall. He rarely turns the ball over and he is doing well, especially considering TY's been out, Parris Campbell has missed significant time, Funchess has missed basically the whole season, Ebron is now out (and had a lot of drops), etc. etc... if you look at it, our #1 WR right now is a 2nd year guy who was undrafted (Pascal).
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49 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:
It wasnt even that good of a play by Simmons
He didn't really get close to Brissett. Q got knocked over, but Brissett still had a good amount of time to throw.
34 minutes ago, Coffeedrinker said:From comments CB said before the draft, I did not think they would take Nelson (he talked about starting quality guards being available in the 2nd and 3rd round). But man, am I glad he did.
He did get a starting quality OG in Round 2.... it just so happened that Braden Smith got moved to RT, where he has done (for the most part) very well. I, personally, would still love to see us get a more natural RT and move Braden back to RG (as I think Glowinski is currently the weakest link on the OL).
Let's keep in mind, our OL was one of the worst in the league, and after that draft our OL is now regarded as one of the better ones in the league. And I think it's widely accepted that Q is one of the best (if not the best) OG in the NFL.
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I would've guessed Deon Cain would've got the promotion. I wonder if his knee is still an issue or what's going on there.
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Granted it has been a small sample size, but I thought Taylor played pretty well for an UDFA in the few chances he had.
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Just now, Mr.Debonair said:
Think you’re talking about the pass to Johnson on the miscommunicationMaybe.. I didn't see a replay of it, I just saw TY screaming on the sideline like he messed up (maybe he was open on the play and Brissett threw it deep down the middle to nobody?).
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33 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:
I am still glad he’s the coach but he was awful tonight.
Too conservative and predictable on offense.
Then he gets aggressive on a third and four and has them go down the field.
Then he called the same first down play all night and at the end the Texans stopped it for 2, then 2 more, and then no gain. He has to mix that up. Try a play action pass it should be deadly with the Colts running game.
Then they were indecisive on the fourth down play wasting a timeout.
That 3rd and 4 wasn't a bad call. It wasn't the greatest throw and the DB barely got a hand on it, but TY could definitely have caught that ball.
5 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:Crap. D played well. Running game was very good. It's simple, the qb failed to make a pass or the wrs failed to get open and/or possibly a combination of both.
A major play in the game was Hines dropping a ball which Brissett placed almost perfectly, it would've been likely at least a 12-15 yard play. That wasn't on Brissett. To be honest, I thought Jacoby had a pretty good game overall. He didn't make many poor decisions (maybe missed a few open guys but he gave us a chance to win).
My biggest beef tonight was us calling a timeout with 3 min left on 4th and 7. We had 3 TO's left and could have either just punted, pinned them deep with 2 min 50 sec left and had an opportunity to make them beat us with essentially 4 TO's (the 2 min warning plus 3 timeouts we had).
We undoubtedly need another WR to help take pressure off TY. TY was playing less than 100% I'm sure but he had one of the worst games I have seen him have as a Colt. I wish they replayed the deep ball which Brissett and TY obviously had a miscommunication on (the one Brissett threw about 40 yards down the field to nobody, I think TY cut inside rather than up the field).
Oh well, not our best game. But the world's not over. We're still very much in the playoff hunt and we should be getting some key players back very soon.
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15 hours ago, Ratking said:
A clear bust... Not a #2.
He was signed to a 1 year contract, so it's not like we invested a whole lot of time into him. I think he was brought in with the possibility of being a long term solution, but with little expectations on him to be great. He's not a 'clear bust'. It'd be nice if he wasn't injured, but until we see him healthy, we can't label him as a bust. Additionally, collarbones (unless there is ligament damage around the shoulder) are time-consuming to come back from but very rarely have long-term effects on performance like a knee injury may.
6 hours ago, LuckyHorseShoe§ said:How is he a bust? Injuries happen, you can't do anything about it. He could still be the number two. Plus the collarbone can take a long time to heal, there's nothing more painful than a hurt collarbone considering your pads rest right on it.
I don't how you call someone a bust when they've played 3/4 of a game
Yes, collarbones take a long time to heal but like I said above, at least it's not like a Deon Cain type of thing where after the player is cleared to play it may take a full year or 2 (or maybe it will never happen) for them to be back at full strength. If Funchess was eating healthy and doing lower body/core workouts and some cardio (biking, etc.), it should take him very little time to be back at peak form.
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5 hours ago, ColtV said:
I honestly dont think there's anything to be gained by adding him. He hasnt practiced with the team, he has no reps in the offense, this was his first year with the Colts so there's nothing for him to pick back up. I think we saw all we were going to see in game 1.
That makes very little sense.
As @ColtsLegacy said, without TY/Funch/Campbell we have one of the worst WR groups in the NFL.
If TY comes back, there will only be so much Pascal can do to prevent teams from doing all they can to take TY out of our game plan. With a healthy Funch (and Campbell) we can at least keep other teams on their toes, whether that means we prevent them from stacking the box to open up our run game even further or whether it means we open up our passing game to more than the dink and dunk which it pretty much has been, it is a good thing.
Funch is a veteran NFL WR, he had a full offseason with the Colts and has been around the team's facilities since his injury. It's also a collarbone injury which is typically one of the easiest injuries to come back from and not miss a beat (I've broken mine 3 times and each time was still able to keep my cardio up, it's not even close to having a guy come back from a knee/ankle injury).
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5 minutes ago, zibby43 said:
I wholeheartedly agree that the losses sustained by WR corps have significantly limited the ability for explosive passing plays.
That said, earlier in the year, when Hilton was still healthy and both Cain and Campbell were getting snaps, there wasn't much of anything going on vertically in the passing game. I believe Cain drew 2 long PI penalties, and that's about it.
Despite Jacoby's arm strength, I don't think the deep ball was working for him well earlier in the year, which probably led Frank to avoid relying on it. That's unfortunate, because as Frank gained trust in Jacoby, Jacoby started to lose the guys he'd be comfortable airing it out to.
The problem is, without that vertical component, teams started to play the Colts differently by bringing more defenders into the box to stop the running game. At some point, irrespective of the personnel available, the Colts need to establish some semblance of a downfield threat if they want the other, more-effective components of the offense to be efficient.
If that makes sense.
To some degree it makes sense. Cain hasn't lived up to the hype (maybe he's not fully healthy) and Campbell is still pretty raw. I think Campbell started showing very positive strides in the last game he played prior to getting injured.
Early in the season the only true, consistent deep threat we had was TY. I think if TY is fully healthy, Funchess is fully healthy, and Campbell/Pascal are fully healthy down this last stretch, we'll see more wrinkles (including deep routes) in our offense.
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1 hour ago, zibby43 said:
This stat makes a ton of sense when you consider that the Colts don't make very many long, explosive plays.
They have to be good in the red zone to be competitive.
You mention in your next post we don't score on long/explosive plays. You're right.
That said, our two most explosive WRs (TY and Campbell) have been dealing with injuries for several weeks and our big body target (Funchess) who was supposed to take pressure off those guys (particularly TY) has been out all year.
If they all come back healthy, I won't be shocked if we see a little bit more explosiveness and deep play calling from the offense. I still think Reich will put strong emphasis on keeping the run game going and keeping the time of possession up, but frankly part of the reason we haven't really been explosive is likely due to the fact that we don't have a very good WR corps when 3 of our top 4 WRs are injured.
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1 minute ago, Superman said:
I know we need him, but he needs to be ready.
Coming back too early and reinjuring himself will be a bigger set back than not having him. I think we can beat the Texans without him, though he tends to have very big games against them and I'd like our odds better with him around.
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1 hour ago, Chloe6124 said:
I also have no confidence in Reich right now. I don’t trust him. Then the fact they are letting Vinny continue to tarnish his legacy just ticks me off. They don’t seem to care so why should I.
They brought several kickers in to workout. There is a reason none of those guys are on another NFL team right now. I doubt any of them are much better than Vinny (if at all).
Additionally, Reich has emphasized that Vinny is a team captain and a leader of this team (Ballard emphasized that this off season when he decided to bring Vinny back).
I'd be a little concerned about them not caring if they didn't bring in a group of other kickers to workout. However, as I said, there is a reason that group is currently unemployed by the NFL.
Not sure what you're not trusting about Reich. We lost our franchise QB to retirement very close to the start of the season. We have had a boatload of injuries to key players. We're still 5-4 and very much in contention for the division title, and it looks like we'll be getting several of our injured players back in the very near future.
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On 11/11/2019 at 2:38 PM, tikyle said:
It says a lot that we have not had a legit #2 WR since he's been here. It's time to draft a 2nd or 3rd round WR, preferably with some size. That Sutton kid that the Broncos have is sort of the mold we need. That kid is going to be special.
Well, TY was our #2 his first year and a half here (or however long into his second season before Reggie went down)... but yes since then we've tried and failed with several WRs -- DHB, Nicks, Moncrief, Andre Johnson, Dorsett, and so far Campbell and Funchess.
Hopefully Funchess gets healthy and can actually contribute. I know Campbell was a project when he was drafted and I have faith in him, he seems to be improving since Day 1 (when he's not injured).
I have really been impressed with Pascal and think he's just going to get better. I was also impressed with Fountain before he got hurt.
Let's hope the injury bug stops and we have a legit #2 in the building already... but yea, it's pretty glaringly obvious that our passing attack is far from elite when TY's not on the field.
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19 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:
Luck was awesome against the blitz. Dolphins wouldn't have blitzed like they did yesterday and so in turn the O line would not have been overwhelmed.
They may have blitzed yesterday given we were down 3 of our top 4 WRs. Part of Luck being very good against the blitz was he had TY to depend on. Yesterday, our two top WRs were undrafted free agents who are decent NFL WRs, but by no means in the same category as TY.
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The Final Three Games...What Should Be Done?
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If we're playing Kelly for any reason other than Jacoby getting hurt, we're essentially saying to the NFL world that the FO/Coaching Staff/etc. has given up on the season. If we lose tomorrow night, we are mathematically eliminated and we don't have playoffs to strive for anymore.
The major positives of playing Kelly then are: (1) we can evaluate him in a real game and see if we have a potential future starter, (2) he plays really well, the FO doesn't think he's our starter, but could maybe be trade bait for a draft pick to a team in desperate need of a solid back-up this off season, and (3) if the FO is sold that JB is our franchise QB, we protect him from injury in essentially meaningless games.
The major negatives of playing Kelly then are: (1) we know we're not going to the playoffs, so there's a high likelihood that he won't be getting the best effort from all of our players and the coaches would also benefit from evaluating some of our bench players so aside from potentially getting a poor effort from his good players, he may get stuck playing with the lesser players which would make it difficult to really evaluate him, (2) the Jags and Panthers are already eliminated, so I imagine they'll be playing their scrubs more than usual with little incentive to win so we may not get their best team/effort on the field, also making it difficult to give a true evaluation, (3) if the coaches currently believe like they say they do that JB is our future, it kind of slaps him in the face, and (4) I would expect we may have some trade value in CK now (maybe a late round draft pick?), so if he went out and performed poorly with a bunch of undrafted FAs as his WRs and TEs, we could lose any current potential value.
Unfortunately, the Colts are in a situation where they don't control their own destiny and I think I heard on TV today that we have <3% odds of making the playoffs.