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7 hours ago, DougDew said:
My only concern with the first day is that there was a tweet saying that the G market is now thin so the market for Chris Reed is heating up. SInce we lost Glow, I hope we do not lose Reed.
I hope we get Reed back, too.. but I could see Ballard wanting to insert Pinter into the RG spot.
6 hours ago, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:I think Irsay tied Ballard’s hands this year by forcing Wentz out. Hard to get FA with no QB.
The conundrum to me is: 1) What QB wants to sign with a team who has a bottom 10 in the league WR/TE group which just saw its top TE retire? AND (2) what wr/te wants to sign with a team who has Sam Ehlinger as their current #1 qb?
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49 minutes ago, Lucky Colts Fan said:
You summamabitc....
Yea, my fault for this
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1 hour ago, TimetobringDfence! said:
I bet my manhood on it that Kelley can do it better than Jacoby on the field any day all day.
If I had to bet, I'd bet that the only way Kelly ever sees the field as a Colt is if someone gets injured and we need a 3rd stringer/PS guy to bail us out.
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13 minutes ago, chad72 said:
Reggie did show us something starting with 2009, when he took Garcon and Collie under his wing when Gonzo went down. Then, with Luck, he showed he had it again in 2012 and 2013 before injuries in 2014 led him to end up being ineffective.
Both Reggie without Marv and Mathis without Freeney, showed us enough with a solid floor for production though the one year 19.5 sack year aberration in 2013 was twice his typical average of 9-10 sacks a year. Mathis did get suspended in 2014 for 4 games for PEDs, so it did make me wonder about 2013. He was never the same after that.
I agree that later in their careers Reggie and Mathis showed us they could ball... but they both had slow starts (took Reggie 3 years, took Mathis 2 to really turn it on). They definitely benefited from having Marv and Freeney to take some pressure off them and take them under their wings early in their careers. And I'm sure Marv and Freeney benefited from having guys a few years younger than them to help take pressure off them when the young ones started to blossom.
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11 hours ago, NannyMcafee said:
The dude was massive for the Colts. Hard to believe he played during the same time as Freeney.
Yea, it's kinda like Reggie and Marv. Mathis came into the league when Freeney was already a feared pass rusher. Who knows if he (or Freeney) would've had such prolonged success if he was solo... same with Reg, Marv was already an elite WR and it took Reg 3 years to really settle in, but then they really complimented each other well.
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6 hours ago, Chloe6124 said:
If they sign Rivers that means they are looking to draft a QB. Rivers said he wants a two year deal but might only play one more year.
I'm not reading into it that way... I'm thinking this may mean they don't see a QB of value in round 1, so maybe they'll draft a QB later in the draft. I see a 2 year deal to Rivers as a stop-gap for now. Let Jacoby be the back-up and play out his deal, maybe bring Kelly up from PS to learn a bit more and see if he makes progress and continues to stay out of off-field trouble.
Next year, if not traded this year, Carr should become a free agent. There's a decent QB class next year as well.
I see the signing of Rivers (if it happens) as (1) a win-now move (in part to ensure Ballard and Reich stay off the hot seat with another losing season) and (2) a way to bide another year or two of time before we really have to address who the QB of this franchise will be for hopefully another decade.
If we signed Rivers, I think most everyone would agree he'd be an upgrade from JB. At that point, we're an interior DL, some additions at WR/TE, and potentially another edge rusher and some improvement in the defensive backfield away from being legit SB contenders.
Odds are there will be a stud WR or IDL at 13. Likely, if we get a stud DL at 13, there will still be a very good WR around in round 2 and probably a very good TE as well. Maybe we draft a QB in the 3rd to 'groom', but my senses tell me if we sign Rivers it means Ballard and Reich want to contend for the SB this year and will try to fix a couple other glaring holes this offseason, biding time to find our long-term QB for another year or two.
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Just now, Shafty138 said:
Only Indicator there is their respective college resumes.... And while neither was jump off the page amazing, Kelly did get the ball down field and to playmakers more often than Brissett. Kelly has done it more recently as well.
JB is ok, but that's it. And most of the time he's not even that. He's not going to develop the areas he struggles in much more, if any, than their at now. He's been exposed to excellent coaching since his first day in the league.... He's been mentored by the likes of Bill Parcells, Bill Belechick, Tom Brady, Andrew Luck, and Frank Reich for the last four plus years.
He is what he is.... And no, the first half of the season he was nothing more than average.
My point wasn't to say JB is a great QB. My point was to say, until we see Kelly do it consistently in the NFL, we have no idea that he's an improvement to JB -- to say he's 'far better' at doing things at the NFL level is an impossible statement to make, as we've never seen him in a live regular season game.
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9 minutes ago, CanuckColt said:
It is good to gave those game-breaker WRs, but they are of little use if the QB cannot get the ball to them consistently on deep and intermediate routes.
JB just can't do it...even Kelly can do it far better than Brissett.
We have no idea if Kelly can do it better than Brissett, let alone 'far better.' Not saying Jacoby's the long-term answer by any means... but nobody has any clue if a guy who has spent his entire NFL career being cut for off-field issues or on practice squads is 'far better' than a guy who helped us get off to a 5-2 start last year.
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NFL posted this for Mathis' 39th birthday -- his top 10 strip sacks... he is the best in the NFL ever at that..
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14 minutes ago, 21isSuperman said:
If I recall correctly, there was a time period where he was the only safety between him, Reed, and Polamalu to have a DPOY and Super Bowl championship on his resume.
Dick Anderson won DPOY in 1973 and won SB VII & VIII w/ Miami. Kenny Easley is the only other S to ever win a DPOY and I don't think his Seahawks team of the mid-80s ever won a SB.
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7 minutes ago, EastStreet said:
Yup. It was Mathis. After I posted that, I did a little googling. I really hope he is spenidng time with Banogu too. Honestly I thought Turay was a better prospect than Banogu. I think Banogu was more raw, came from a team known for a scheme that lacks technique, and a conference known for it's lack of D.
I'm optimistic about Turay's chances of being a 3 down guy, but a lot leess optimistic about Banogu being an impact guy. Regardless, he should be better in 2020. I think perhaps the FO got to cute with it's evaluation of Banogu given all the SAM talk. Hope he flips the switch in 2020 though.
I agree 100% on an iDL. IMO, a legit 3 tech would absolutely transform our D from frontend to backend.
Not sure how much Mathis is training with Colts now, but this article suggests he helped Banogu out a bit last off-season. I have seen videos of Turay with Mathis during rehab. It sounds like Mathis has a sports performance center somewhere in Indy and at least a few of the current players go there for consulting. https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2019/07/25/indianapolis-colts-ben-banogu-robert-mathis-trained-offseason/
And agreed on Banogu. I think he may be a bit more athletic than Turay (a couple inches shorter, but I think he's slightly faster, quicker and stronger). However, it always seems to be a risk taking a guy from that kind of 'read and react' D who got by on athleticism is college and seeing how they translate to the NFL. Not that they went to the same school or even play the same position, but Banugo reminds me somewhat of Le'Raven Clark -- an athlete with a lot of potential but with little idea of how he's going to wind up as an NFL player. He's got a lot of learning/developing to do to translate his athleticism into an NFL-caliber ball player.
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5 hours ago, 21isSuperman said:
I'd put him as the best safety in the league when fully healthy. If he could have enjoyed an injury-free career, we'd be talking about one of the greatest defensive players ever and a surefire Hall of Famer
He's only one of 5 safeties to ever be named NFL Defensive Player of the Year. Most recently it was Palomalu (2010), before that it was Sanders (2007), Ed Reed (2004), Kenny Easley (1984 Seahawks), and Dick Anderson (1973 Dolphins). That's pretty impressive, if you ask me.
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Forgot just how good this guy was when he was healthy -- today's his 39th b-day.
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On 2/21/2020 at 4:44 PM, DougDew said:
He would compete with PC or Pascal for #3 or 4 on the depth chart. Not good enough to be the #2 guy I want. I don't see the point of signing him, other than CB/Reich possibly having concerns with PCs ability, which I doubt.
From listening to Reich and Ballard, it sounds like they have a lot of faith in Campbell's talent and ability. I imagine they have more concerns with all the injuries he had last year.
I wouldn't be overly excited if we signed Agolhor, but the fact that Reich and Groh have connections with him may mean something. Sure, he had a bad year last year, but maybe Reich/Groh think he was mis-used and believe they could get him in the right scheme (one thing I really like about Reich is he seems to really work to get his players in positions to allow them to thrive rather than be so stubborn in his system that if his players don't fit what he wants he doesn't make adjustments).
I agree with you though, I don't really see the point in signing him unless Reich really knows something that we don't (which is possible, as in 2017 he put up 62 catches and 8 TDs under Reich's offense in Philly). From what I can tell is he would likely be no higher than the 4th WR on this team as it currently sits (maybe #5 if we brought Funchess back).
It seems to me what this team really needs is a true #2 or #1a to help TY out more. I think Funchess could've been that last year, but got hurt so early on. I don't really see Agholor as an upgrade to what we already have, so I'd be pretty shocked if we actually signed him.
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On 2/20/2020 at 9:27 PM, EastStreet said:
Honestly I'd be OK if he's just awesome vs the pass. I'd prefer him be well rounded, but if he's just a 3rd down terror, there's still a lot of value in that. And I'm more than fine with situational contributors if they are good, and he's been really good. So, not really a disappointment.
Yup, I mentioned this exact topic in the thread about drafting a DE. IMO, he was too thin/wiry coming into the league and not ready to hold up vs the run. He's thickened up a bit the last couple years, so I think he's better suited now. That's why I still have hope he can be a 3 down guy. But I am happily surprised how good he's become vs the pass. Hats off to whomever is teaching him technique. Hope Banogu is getting the same mentoring.
I think Mathis has been Turay's main mentor. I'm sure Houston helps him some, too. Regardless, we knew he was a project pick with raw talent that needed to develop. He certainly seemed to develop a lot between year 1 and 2. Unfortunately, he got that injury, but it looks like he's ahead of schedule recovering. If he's back and healthy, I expect continued improvement (I also think Banogu is going to make a similar leap as Turay seemed to between year 1 and 2).
What we really need is a stud in the interior DL, IMO. That should just make the edge guys' life much easier.
16 hours ago, hoosierhawk said:Some may vehemently will disagree but Freeney was not the greatest DE as a run stopper, especially early on. Great, great pass rusher but have vivid memories of his rushing wide and the OT just ride him wide and the running back running through a huge hole that Freeney vacated. He became a HOF. Big difference so far is he could stay on the field.
Freeney was awful against the run, pretty much his whole career. Lucky, for him, we had one of, if not the most explosive offenses in football for most of his time here. I think he'll wind up in the HOF, but doubt as a first ballot guy. He's 18th in all-time sacks (1 spot ahead of Mathis and 2 spots above Simeon Rice, who has been eligible for 8 years and still isn't in). IMO, the big difference is that our O was so explosive that opposing teams were very often forced to pass against us and abandon their run game early with Peyton and Co. putting up so many points. I think that really masked a lot of deficiencies in the games of Mathis and Freeney who both were vulnerable against the run, but were enabled to be 1-dimensional pass rush specialists due to Peyton's offense being so potent. I could be wrong, but I highly doubt Freeney would have been as successful on a worse team (e.g., if he played on the Browns or a team w/ a bad offense, I think his run defense would have been exposed way worse than it was).
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10 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:
McAfee has made his dislike for Grigs known for years.
Ya, there was some chat about this in the recent thread about if Pagano was really a bad HC. I'm not saying Chuck was the best coach of all time, but how bad would that suck if you are a head coach and your GM is cutting away your solid players because he overpaid other players, or benching players for guys he made bad moves on (see Trent Richardson for example).
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This is kinda funny -- McAfee on how locker rooms deal with trades. I think he meant the Colts released (not traded) AQ Shipley because Grigs wanted to keep Satele who he overpaid. He doesn't say Grigs exactly, but you can tell that when Chuck called the team together to tell them 'these things happen, people above you make decisions and you have to trust it..' Maybe this should go into the recent thread about Chuck... but this is just one case of Grigs' ego getting in the way.
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On 2/13/2020 at 10:39 AM, Valpo2004 said:
To be fair I am not sure you can fully blame the GM/Coaching staff for being reluctant to give up on AV. He was recognized as the greatest kicker of all time.
With the offense thing I think that's simply a product of basically have to start a backup quality quarterback the entire season.
How many teams could you legit take their best QB away from them the entire season and have them win 7 games. Furthermore how many would be in as many games as the Colts where in (Remember AV misses cost us at least 2 games)
There are a few.
The Saints could almost certainly win 7+ games with Bridgewater.
Maybe the Pats because they always seem to be competitive.
But outside of those teams, who can lose their best QB the entire season and win 7 or more games. Not that darn many teams.
Reich did very well given the situation.
They brought in kickers for tryouts several times and Vinny outperformed them... let's not forget that there is a reason why K's without a job are K's without a job (at least an NFL job). So, yea it was unfortunate that we lost a few extra games from poor kicking.. but no, I don't think that all falls on Ballard and Reich for not replacing AV. It's not like they didn't look for replacements, they just couldn't bring a guy off the streets who was better.
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3 hours ago, WifiGuy said:
That whole opinion thing comes into play again. I like Liver and Onions with mustard . Do you?
The guy was a 2nd team all-pro just 2 years ago. That's not an opinion of mine that he doesn't 'suck' like you suggest. Get lost, troll.
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On 2/15/2020 at 10:25 PM, Scott Pennock said:
Leonard
Okereke
Speed
Those guys will be monsters this coming season out there.....that is a lot of instinct, speed and length out there.
Them with Walker on running downs. Imagine what that group will be able to do if we get some big, athletic bodies on the IDL to free them up to run... it could be a very nice group.
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9 minutes ago, CR91 said:
Marv is a room in the HOF by himself, but Hilton has shown similar talent is my point. It is just unfortunate the production is backed up by the stats for the reason I have stated.
And HOF credentials are based largely on stats... TY doesn't have them and won't have them when it's time to get voted in. That doesn't mean TY's not a very good player, it just means he likely isn't a HOFer. And to Marv's credit he played on some pretty bad teams his first few years in the league (there was a reason we had the #1 pick to get Peyton) and Peyton was nowhere near as good as Luck was as a rookie. In all, TY's had similar talent around him (maybe better considering he came into the league w/ likely HOFer Reggie Wayne as a teammate and Luck's numbers are not too far off what Peyton's where back during Marv's early career) for the start of his career. Additionally, Marv didn't really suffer any health issues until his second to last year when he blew his knee. It seems like TY's been hobbled fairly often these past 2 years... so if I had to bet, he probably won't have as long of a career as Marv. To get to 1,000 receptions and some other accolades needed for HOF, TY would have to likely play 15+ seasons, which I doubt happens.
He's a very important player for this team. He's not a HOFer, though, barring some sort of miracle.
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3 hours ago, CR91 said:
You think his numbers weren't impacted with all the injuries Andrew had to deal with? Or the lack of weapons around him? Guys like Brisett throwing to him who can't take advantage of his biggest asset. You look at the man's talent and how he impacts games and you see a HOFer.
I'm sure there has been some impact with his numbers due to injuries to Andrew. This past year, due to injuries from other players, he didn't have a lot of a supporting cast (i.e., Ebron, Funchess, Campbell, Fountain all missing significant time likely allowed teams to hone in on TY). That said, even with a healthy Luck and good players around him like Reggie Wayne, Fleener, Allen, etc. teams could take TY out easier than they could take Marvin out when he was in his prime.
Look at the 2002 year when Marv had 143 receptions. Reggie was in his 2nd year and started just 7 games. Edge was still coming back from injury. We had Marcus Pollard, Joe Dean Davenport, Qadry Ishmael, and a few other names most people wouldn't remember on that team. Marvin was by far the primary weapon with not a lot of help around him to take pressure off. He was doubled or tripled every game and he still went out and caught ~9 balls a game. I don't see TY being able to do that, regardless of who his QB is/was.
TY certainly impacts the game. I never said he didn't. I just said TY's a long shot for the HOF. Even if he had a healthy Luck the whole time, his numbers wouldn't be on par with Marvin. Marvin literally had 8 seasons in a row with more than 82 catches. TY's done that 3 times in 8 years, never having more than 100 catches.
TY has made it to 4 pro-bowls. No first or 2nd-team All-Pros. He lead the NFL is receiving yards once.... again, I don't dislike TY, he's just not at Marv's level and I don't care who his QB is.
Now let's look at Marv:
Super Bowl champion (XLI)
8× Pro Bowl (1999–2006)
3× First-team All-Pro (1999, 2002, 2006)
5× Second-team All-Pro (2000, 2001, 2003–2005)
2× NFL receiving yards leader (1999, 2002)
NFL receiving touchdowns co-leader (2005)
2× NFL receptions leader (2000, 2002)
NFL 2000s All-Decade Team
NFL 100th Anniversary All-Time Team
Most receptions in a 7-season period (731), 1999–2005; 8 season period (826), 1999–2006; 9 season period (885), 1998–2006; 10 season period (958), 1997–2006; 11 season period (1,022), 1996–2006
Most games in a career with at least 8 receptions (51), 9 receptions (32), 11 receptions (12), 12 receptions (8)
Most consecutive games with at least 6 receptions (16) and 9 receptions (6)
Most consecutive seasons with at least 5 touchdowns (11) – shared with Jerry Rice, Don Hutson, Cris Carter, Tim Brown, Terrell Owens, Frank Gore
Most consecutive seasons with at least 6 touchdowns (11) – shared with Terrell Owens, Jerry Rice, Don Hutson
Most consecutive seasons with at least 5 touchdown receptions (11) – shared with Jerry Rice, Don Hutson, Cris Carter, Tim Brown, Terrell Owens
Most consecutive seasons with at least 6 touchdown receptions (11) – shared with Jerry Rice, Don Hutson
Most consecutive seasons with at least 10 touchdown receptions (8)
Most consecutive seasons with at least 11 touchdown receptions (4)-tied with Lance Alworth, Art Powell
Most consecutive seasons with at least 14 touchdown receptions (2)-tied with Jerry Rice
Consecutive seasons with 1,400+ receiving yards (4); 1999–2002
Consecutive seasons with 82+ receptions (8); 1999–2006
Most games in a single season (2002) with at least 6 receptions (15), 7 receptions (12)-broken by Antonio Brown, 8 receptions (12), 9 receptions (10)-tied by Julio Jones, 11 receptions (5)
Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning currently hold the NFL record for most completions between a Wide Receiver and Quarterback with 953.
Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning currently hold the NFL record for passing touchdowns between a WR and QB with 112.
Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning currently hold the NFL record for passing yards between a WR and QB with 12,766.
Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning currently hold the NFL record for completions in a season between a WR and QB with 143 in 2002.
First player to record 2 seasons of 1,600 yards receiving in NFL history, (1999 & 2002). (Torry Holt became the 2nd, (2000 & 2003), Antonio Brown became the 3rd (2014 & 2015)).
First player to have 50+ receptions in his first 11 seasons in NFL history. (Torry Holt became the 2nd on December 27, 2009)
Most consecutive seasons of 1,000+ all-purpose yards and 10+ touchdown receptions (8), 1999–2006
On December 18, 2006, Marvin Harrison and Indianapolis Colt teammate Reggie Wayne became the only NFL wide receiver tandem to catch 75 receptions and 1,000 yards in 3 straight seasons. The game was on Monday Night and was played against the Cincinnati Bengals.
On November 17, 2002, made his 600th career reception against the Dallas Cowboys
On October 12, 2003, made his 700th career reception against the Carolina Panthers. And is the fastest player to do so reaching the mark in 114 games
On November 8, 2004, made his 800th career reception against the Minnesota Vikings. And is the fastest player to do so reaching the mark in 131 games
On November 20, 2005, made his 900th career reception against the Cincinnati Bengals. And is the fastest player to do so reaching the mark in 149 career games
On December 10, 2006, made his 1000th reception against the Jacksonville Jaguars. And is the fastest player to do so reaching the mark in 167 career games
On December 28, 2008, made his 1,100th career reception against the Tennessee Titans in his last regular season game and his last game in Indianapolis. He is the fastest player to do so reaching the mark in 190 career games.
Most receptions over first 7 seasons (665), 8 seasons (759), 9 seasons (845), 10 seasons (927), 11 seasons (1,022) and 13 seasons (1,102) of career of any NFL receiver
Most consecutive games with a reception to start a career (190)
Most average receptions per game in a career (5.8) – 1996–2008
Most consecutive games with 8+ receiving yards (190), (206 if counting playoffs) – every game
Most consecutive games with a 6+ yard reception (190), (206 if counting playoffs) – every game
Most consecutive games with an 8+ yard reception (177), (192 if counting playoffs)
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16 hours ago, CR91 said:
Well if he's so unimportant, explain how we've been only won one game without him? Or the fact he broke Marv's record for most 150+ games?
I think being 'unimportant' and not being HOF caliber are two different things. Hilton has been in the league for 8 years. He has never had more than 100 receptions in a season. Marvin did it 4 times in his first 7 years with 94 receptions in his 8th year (TY's got 2 seasons with 82 catches, 1 with 91 and only one other with over 70 so 4 over 70 total in his first 8). Marv led the league in receptions and receiving yards 2x during his first 8 years and had 5 seasons with over 10 TDs. TY has never had a season with more than 7 TDs. Marv had his year with 143 receptions when he was double or triple teamed every game. TY can be taken out of games effectively by being double teamed. If you go past the first 8, Marv had a stretch where he had >1,000 yards and 10+ TDs for 8 straight years (the best streak in NFL history). I highly doubt TY's going to pull that task off considering he's never had a single season with >7 TDs.
Reggie had 5 of his first 8 seasons w/ >70 catches, 4 of them >80 catches and 1 with 100 catches. He then had 3 more 100+ reception seasons later in his career. Reggie had 10+ TDs twice in his first 8 years compared to 0 for TY. All Marv, Reggie and TY had 5 seasons w/ >1,000 yards in their first 8 seasons.
TY's body also doesn't seem to be holding up all that well. He has had injuries the past couple years which obviously impacted his play. At his current pace, he'd likely need to last 15 seasons to make it to 1,000 receptions, which is pretty much the minimum to be considered for the HOF at the WR position unless you're someone who got hurt early and completely impacted the game (e.g., Megatron).
Don't get me wrong, I like TY a lot. He's a special player when he's healthy. But I highly doubt he's a HOFer, especially if the QB play doesn't improve around here.
16 hours ago, Jared Cisneros said:Sorry, I disagree with that. He was really good with Andrew. When teams wanted too, they took him out of the game without much trouble. He couldn't handle double teams. Brissett makes him look bad, but he also never scored more than 7 tds in a season. He's a no1 receiver because Grigson and Ballard can't draft WR's. He's honestly a high end no2 slot receiver that got used on the outside incorrectly. Above-average, but not elite like Marvin or Reggie. I will say he's our best receiver since Reggie though.
I think TY is versatile enough to move inside or outside. He's shown he can play outside, mainly because his speed. But yes, look at the year Marv had 143 receptions. He was double or triple teamed every single game. Teams knew what was coming and they couldn't stop him. While I don't think TY's a bad route runner, Marv by many accounts was the best route runner in the game when he played (Peanut Tillman, Shawn Springs, Champ Bailey are all on record saying this, and I think a few other top-tier CBs said the same thing).
Again, I like TY a lot. However, without weapons around him, he can be taken out of games regardless of who his QB is. Marvin was very rarely taken out of games (unless you consider the Pats game in which Ty Law was basically tackling Marvin at the line of scrimmage, a game which changed the NFL history since Polian got the rules changed that offseason to make it a lot easier on WRs than it was then).
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On 2/14/2020 at 6:14 PM, Matabix said:
Maybe cause they know not to throw it near him. Just a thought.
In 2018, teams definitely were avoiding him. In 2019, he got targeted slightly more, but for the most part I don't think he's a guy that teams are 'picking on.' I thought he played more physically last year, and think he can be a very good (at worst he's slightly above middle of the pack, at best potentially top 5 FS in the NFL). We need to address other issues on this team and everyone's play should improve. IMO, Hooker's nowhere near one of our biggest problems on the team and not one we need to target fixing anytime in the near future.
On 2/15/2020 at 1:48 PM, Chloe6124 said:Kenny Moore is right up there tied with Leonard as best defensive player. I think Moore might even be more important because we have no backup. With Leonard we’ve have Okereke.
Kenny Moore is a very good slot CB, but I really don't think he's that great on the outside. I have a hard time ranking him our 2nd best D player.
I'd say after Leonard, it'd go something like Houston, Walker and then Moore. I think we have a couple other guys that'll also surpass Moore next year with more time to develop (Okereke, Ya-Sin, Turay if healthy are three that come to mind).
On 2/15/2020 at 2:06 PM, EastStreet said:I've posted the stats before on both our OL and DL. Our OL was top 5 in giving our QB time, and he was second worst in time to throw. Our DL was bottom 10 (I think 7th) in time given. That means opposing QBs had a ton of time to sit back and pick us apart. In other words, the DBs had to hold way to long because the DL coudn't get to the QB. Those stats suggest the opposite of what you are trying to imply.
If we had a higher scoring offense and we improved our DL, it'd really help our DBs. I always say Mathis and Freeney, if they get into the HOF, should thank Peyton for allowing them to truly be pass rush specialists. Neither of them were very good against the run, Freeney was actually fairly awful against the run... but our O scored so much back then, we could make other team's O one-dimensional and just allow Freeney and Mathis to pin their ears back. If our O wasn't so good back then, I have a hard time believing Freeney would have had as many sacks as he had... he had one job and that was to get the QB because we rarely had to worry about being run on. Either way, even if our O doesn't significantly improve, we need to improve the DL and be able to get much more consistent pressure on the other QB.
Boo!! Who is the real Ghost? TY or AP
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I don't think he's a 'wasted' pick yet.. he has upside.
That said, he needs to come down with some of the deep balls and big plays. I wonder if he's got a little bit of a confidence issue right now, as it seems like he has missed more of the 50/50 opportunities (e.g., late game deep ball today) than he has made. Hopefully he can come down with a big play or two in the coming weeks and get his confidence up... if he held onto that deep ball late in the game today, that is a HUGE play.
It would've been a great catch, and it's not 'awful' that he didn't catch it... but, as @Smonroesaid, I bet Pittman would have come down with that... if Pierce is going to earn a big contract after his rookie deal, he's gotta make more of those tough plays than he misses.