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  1. On 9/14/2019 at 5:19 PM, chad72 said:

     

    Like when Big Ben was suspended while charges were dropped? NFL and Goodell have been inconsistent at best.

     

    AB has Tyreek Hill to thank for a frame of reference lately. 

    Ben's circumstances were different and Ben was SUSPENDED ... NOT put on the "Exempt List" (aka "paid leave").

     

    As others have implied, to put AB on the exempt list is really a dangerous precedent because it would open the door for anyone to make a baseless accusation/civil suit with the intention of removing that player from a big game(s).

  2. 4 minutes ago, CR91 said:

     

    So they didn't cheat to get their other rings?

    Problem is here that you choose "cheating" to account for ALL of their success because it is conevveient…..bit it is FAR from true because you are unable to begin to tie them to ANY cheating whatsoever for their past 2 SB wins....and I am guessing that you don't believe they cheated for the 3 SB's they lost either, right?

    Impossible to have a 2-way discussion who refuses to acknowledge facts which undermine their conspiracy theory....sorry.

  3. 1 opponent for a 5 year span.   Again, NE's winning pctg vs rest of the NFL is ~the same as it is vs the AFC East.

     

    Foolish for anyone to imply "they win b/c of the division they play in".  Fact is, they just win better & more than any other team for the past 20yrs....regardless of the division they play in.

  4. On ‎2‎/‎4‎/‎2019 at 7:51 AM, IinD said:

    They're so fortunate to be in a division that hasn't had a franchise QB in 20 years. People liked to say the South was bad, the east is a guaranteed 5-1 (that fluke yearly Mia win) or 6-0 for them year in year out.

     

    Somebody better step up or they'll walk out of this dynasty with 4 or 5 in a row.

    Using the AFC East as the reason for their success is just ignorant.  The FACT is that the Patriots winning pcg against the rest of the NFL is the same as it is against the AFC East over the past 18 years.

    That's right, they beat up on the rest of the league the same way they beat up on their division....FACT.

  5. 6 minutes ago, CR91 said:

     

    What rule exactly am I saying we need to change? Whats wrong with wanting more teams in the super bowl?

    Where does the NFL state that the SB is a platform "for all teams to get a chance to participate in"?

     

    The Super Bowl is (and always has been) a platform for the 2 best teams (as determined by the playoff process) to play for the championship.

     

    Believe it or not, the Colts & every other NFL team HAS THE EXACT SAME CHANCE TO MAKE THE SB (AS NE DOES) AT THE START OF EVERY SEASON.

     

    You should be blaming the other 31 teams for having to watch NE most of the time.

  6. On ‎2‎/‎4‎/‎2019 at 3:16 AM, SLILLINGTON10 said:

    Honestly, I view the Saints as the real SB champs. They should have been in it but we all know that story and I do believe Brees and their defense wins that game easily. I also am really having issues with Goodell and Krafts bff bromance. Along with the SB MVP being caught for PEDs and missing 4 games. Just overall not a great look for the NFL.

    How many other players facing their first PED suspension received more than 4 games?  Why should Edelman receive more than the rules specify? 

     

    You DO realize that Goodell has fined Kraft more draft picks & more money than any single commissioner has fined a single team in NFL history right?  Did you see the disappointment on Goodell's face when he had to present the trophy to RKK?....

     

    Not sure why you think their relationship is so strong after all these fines/penalties, etc??

  7. On ‎2‎/‎4‎/‎2019 at 12:22 PM, CR91 said:

     

    You like being forced to watch the pats in or winning the super bowl basically every year?

    Doesn't sound like he is forced to do anything?....

     

    Sounds like he enjoys witnessing the 2 best teams in football battling it out for a championship.  If you want to see different teams in the SB, then it sounds like you have a problem with the 31 teams who have been unable to remove the Pats from this stranglehold for the past ~20yrs?

     

    It is a common tactic of millennials to say, "we don't like the results, so let's change the rules"

  8. On ‎2‎/‎4‎/‎2019 at 12:05 PM, RollerColt said:

    This is a nightmare I can't wake up from. Year in and out... 

     

    It's as bad as being a Pacers fan during the Jordan era... 

     

    I'm just glad I decided not to watch. Even for Pats fans that had to be boring as heck. 

    If you are not a fan of defensive football, you could consider it boring.

     

    Personally, I was intrigued to watch "one of the single greatest defensive game plans in NFL history" play out in front of us....in an era of unprecedented offense in the NFL.

     

    To think that SINGLE HIGHEST POINT SPREAD IN SB HISTORY was eclipsed by the LOWEST SCORING SB IN HISTORY really tells me the general public still doesn't respect BB's ability to throw complete unpredictability at the finest minds/teams in the NFL.

  9. On ‎2‎/‎4‎/‎2019 at 12:21 PM, CR91 said:

     

    I still love the game. Im just tired of it being tarnished every year by this team. As a fan, I wanna see different teams being champions. Dynasties imo makes watching sports irrelevant. Like watching the NBA now-a-days.  

    Why don't you get on YOUR team's front office/coaches and demand "better" from them?  The bigger problem here is that 31 teams have been unable to crack the Pats stranglehold on the league for almost 20yrs now.  If this were an MMA match, I get the feeling that many of you are taking the "I'm tapping out" strategy??….

  10. 20 hours ago, CR91 said:

     

    I want competition. I don't want to waste my time seeing the same teams winning over and over and over again.

    If I were a fan of any other team than NE right now, I would be disgusted with my team/front office/coach for NOT being able to put some kind of plan together to stop NE.  Isn't it THEIR job to create a team that can compete with the best team(s) in the league?

     

    Seriously, no one can tell me that the rest of the teams (other than NE) haven't had the intelligence to figure it out & combat it after almost 20years?  Everyone likes to diminish TB's accomplishments by saying "he's a system QB"....but why has no other coach implemented a similar "system" for their team to follow?  Seems like a no-brainer to me??….

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  11. 37 minutes ago, Flash7 said:

     

     

    There's n doubt that the Patiots ARE cheaters. Your assertion seems to imply that players from other teams would walk into the Patriots facilities and see rampant cheating left and right. In all reality, the players from other teams would join the Patriots and see a hard working group of players, which I do not doubt that they are. They would not see deflated game footballs, or know that the coaches were implementing tactics that were bending the rule book.

     

    Again, why have none of the former coaches who were let go/fired by NE capitalize on the millions of dollars for the first person to document their experiences in a book.  I'm thinking of a guy like Dave DeGuglielmo

     

  12. 13 minutes ago, buccolts said:

    Too many thoughts, and too little time to offer an appropriate response during working hours, but........ James Harrison? Really?

    He was one of the biggest "patriots cheat" guys in the NFL and, self-admittedly, went to NE with the idea that he was going to witness their "evil ways".  Instead, he had this to say about them after being a part of their team/organization.....

     

    “The only thing that’s really opposite is that in New England, it’s more regimented, it’s more disciplined,” said Harrison. “The coaching is better, to be honest with you. The plans they put together are better. And they don’t ask their players to do anything that’s outside of the realm of what they feel their capabilities are. So when you do that, and you switch a lot of players in and out for certain things that you want to get accomplished, you get things done and that’s what they have over there.

    “I wanted to hate [Tom Brady] so bad, playing against him all those years and him getting the better of us for the most part of them, I wanted to hate him … I feel like [the Steelers system] needs to be more disciplined…”

    That’s a huge endorsement for New England’s coaching staff, and it further explains why the team has been so successful under Bill Belichick. Especially consider that Harrison was a tough critic too because he entered the situation viewing the Patriots as a rival, as they had been for him his entire career. That makes his remarks carry even more weight.

     

    https://larrybrownsports.com/football/james-harrison-patriots-coaching-better-than-steelers/455524

     

    I think this is the video of him talking about it last night.....not sure how one could discredit what he says he witnessed???...

     

    https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/DySR0MFUcAAazWJ.mp4

  13. 8 minutes ago, Flash7 said:

    1. Spy Gate did happen - no doubt about it.

     

    2. Deflategate did happen - no doubt about it.

     

    3. The NFL changed the rules on how a DB can make contact with a receiver after the Pats DBs molested Colts receivers for an entire game. That did happen - no doubt about it.

    "When the NFL rule-makers cracked down four years ago on clutching-and-grabbing tactics by defensive players to try to open up the passing game, the move widely was viewed as a response to the rugged way in which the New England Patriots had played defense on their way to their first two Super Bowl titles." - Washington Post

     

    4. The NFL did change the rules on intentional substitution confusion.

    "The Ravens were * the Patriots got them on a couple big plays using substitution confusion. The competition committee decided to ensure the Ravens wouldn’t get fooled again and made it illegal for a receiver/running back to declare ineligible and line up outside the tackle box."

     

    There's n doubt that the Patiots ARE cheaters. Your assertion seems to imply that players from other teams would walk into the Patriots facilities and see rampant cheating left and right. In all reality, the players from other teams would join the Patriots and see a hard working group of players, which I do not doubt that they are. They would not see deflated game footballs, or know that the coaches were implementing tactics that were bending the rule book.

    Rule changes do not mean the Pats were cheating.  The NFL left rules out there with loopholes....and the Patriots used them to their advantage while other team's coaches were not intelligent enough to catch on.  Isn't it funny that Harbaugh had such a problem with the TE substitutions in the 2014 divisional game....but the following season he did the EXACT same thing to beat a regular season opponent.  How come no one cared?

    These rule changes only highlight that BB is playing the game at a completely different level than his peers.  His peers, also, will take any advantage they can find/get... but the fact none of them dominates a "league based on parity" renders their efforts irrelevant to 99.9% of NFL fans.

     

    Let me ask you this....

     

    It was obvious that green lasers were pointed in Brady/Pats players faces during the AFC Title Game IN KC.  What would the national outcry had this same thing happened to an opposing QB in Gillette Stadium for an AFCCG?

  14. 7 minutes ago, Finball said:

     

    Like in spygate. Players don't need to know how coaches got the info to make that specific playcall.

    I would beg to differ.  Supposedly, Spygate was such a big deal because it highlighted "systematic & organizational cheating".  If coaches are the only ones who are aware of the other teams formations/play calls, do you really think that all of that info can be communicated to players (on the field) given the few seconds they have between the time a team lines up and the time the ball is snapped?

    I would also come fact to the idea of why no former, disgruntled coaches have ever seized the opportunity to make millions of dollars by spilling the beans?

     

    Did you hear Kurt Warner this week when he was asked about SB36/Pats cheating, etc...?  His reply was simple...

    "All I can say is that on that day, the Patriots outplayed us on the field".

     

    London Fletcher said the same thing this week as well......

  15. 14 minutes ago, Finball said:

    Players don't need to know about the cheating coaches do. Or other players don't need to know about QB deflating footballs.. I certainly wouldn't talk about it.

     

    Not saying the Pats are definitely cheating though it wouldn't surprise me at all if they are.

    I am confused about this statement?  How can "cheating" be implemented on the field without the players having any idea?

     

    Again, you should listen to James Harrisons discussing HIS experience on a NE team which went to a SB and how he witnessed something much different than he expected when arriving in NE.

  16. Just now, Superman said:

     

    It seems like you're trolling. You've come to a Colts forum to boast about the Patriots and poke at Colts fans. 

    Respectfully accepted....but I view it as a response to the overwhelming number of posts (by Colts fans) discrediting another NFL team without citing facts. 

     

    If the NFL GENERAL forum is a place which only accepts "subjective banter" by the Colt's fanbase, then so be it.

     

    I apologize for the post, but not my views (supported by facts/quotes).

     

  17. 2 minutes ago, Superman said:

    What's the point of this thread?

    General NFL discussion about former NFL players/coaches rebutting the idea that the Patriots cheat.

     

    Many have posted MANY opinions to the contrary in this particular forum (NFL General) regarding the Patriots.

     

    I can only presume there is interest in a fair, 2-way discussion about the topic.

     

    While it may be seen as "inflammatory", all of the examples cited are REAL OPINIONS by REAL NFL people....as opposed to the wreckless accusations and innuendos which are usually brough to this forum regarding the Patriots.

     

    I hope not to be banned, but if it is so, I will accept the punishment, respectfully.

  18. On ‎1‎/‎21‎/‎2019 at 3:45 PM, GoPats said:

     

    I don't get the Romo hate. He's actually dead-on with most of his commentary. When you look at the alternatives/competition (Phil Simms, Troy Aikman, Dan Fouts, etc-etc) I don't think anyone does it better than Romo. 

     

    They are anti-Romo b/c Romo recognizes that he is watching "greatness" which will never be replicated in our lifetimes on an NFL field.

     

     

     

  19. In the past week, we have heard Hines Ward use the Patriots as the model for his dysfunctional Steeler's organization to come out of the cesspool they have created for themselves.

     

    We have also heard how BB called Bill Cowher in an effort to help the Steelers win a SB after NE was knocked out of the playoffs.

     

    James Harrison laid it all out for the haters on NFL Network last night...he went to NE thinking he was going to "uncover the truth".  By his own admission, he was stunned that he "had never witnessed a more cohesive, hard working group of men in his life".   Terrance Knighton said the exact same thing following getting cut from Pats training camp a few years back... after he had labeled them as "cheaters" during his years in Denver.

     

    This list continues to grow....

     

    Those who can only repeat the "patriot's cheat" mantra to help themselves feel better about their own team's failures are beginning to look more and more foolish with each NFL personality that comes out of the woodwork.

     

    On top of it, I am still waiting to hear a single, disgruntled, former employee of the Patriots come out and collect millions of dollars for writing a book about the "systematic/organizational cheating of the Patriots".  Why hasn't this happened yet?  Instead, just a steady flow of R-E-S-P-E-C-T for the greatest run of success in NFL history.

     

    As Bob Kraft so elegantly pointed out in Atlanta this week when asked about all the "Haters" out there..."I am honored.  We have a very high class problem to deal with". 

     

    Well said Mr. Kraft!

     

    Is there anyone around here who is shifting their views in light of all the revelations coming out lately?....or you gonna hate 'til you die?

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