Finball
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I'll take the Bucs if still available, Cards as a backup.
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1 hour ago, crazycolt1 said:
Check his stats against the Patriots. Almost identical to Brady's minus 1 TD.
Stats don't tell the whole story here. Bortles stopped being effective when they were forced into 2nd/3rd long, as Pats put full effort and made necesseary adjustments to stop Fournette. Brady was playing against much talented D too and didn't have anywhere near his best game. If Jags had gotten great QB play, it would've been a blowout.
5 hours ago, TdungyW/12 said:Yeah we MUST have seen a different game. I didn’t say they shouldn’t have went for a FG or they should have done this or that .... that’s irrelevant I’m SAYING .... and pay CLOSE attention. They came out cold and changed their game plan .... they took their foot off the gas and changed their play calling after panicking when the patriots def buckled down.
You can put your opinion in all you want I have mine .....
They didn't change their gameplan, they didn't their foot off the gas nor did they make changes to their playcalling. They even scored on their first drive coming out of the half.
Shanahan remained aggressive as they ran the ball as much in the 2nd half as they did in the first. Patriots adjusted by dropping down the safeties hard to stop the run game. Falcons offensive line started to suffer from their injuries. Mack had broken his leg against GB IIRC. So Pats had their NT, Alan Branch, line up foot or two away from him so he had to take extra step or two with his broken leg to execute those outside zone runs that the Falcons run Their both tackles suffered injuries, and I think their RT suffered pretty bad injuries during the game. In turn, they couldn't run the ball anymore and also had troubles pass blocking. Tevin Coleman also got injured and he was the better pass blocker between him and Freeman. Freeman didn't locate Hightower early enough on the strip-sack. Can't remember who but someone was wide open on that play.
Falcons were too aggressive, suffered bad untimely injuries, Patriots adjusted very well got unlucky on few key plays and displayed some terriblee situational playcalling/awareness. Like not running down the clock or kicking the FG when they were easily in the FG range.
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6 hours ago, jshipp23 said:
Detroit has a tight owner who has a history of not paying guys and letting them walk, Suh is the latest example.. I'm surprised they are willing to overpay Ansah..
Their GM had screwed up with the salary cap. They had pretty much no choice but to let him walk.
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29 minutes ago, jshipp23 said:
So that means they can take Barkley? What about LT and RT? Joe Thomas is gonna retire soon..What about Linebacker, DT, other Defensive End, Cornerback, Safety, Wide Reciever? Apparently every position is more important than running back, yet they might take one at 1? They don't even have a freaking QB...If Colts do it it is dumb though..smh
That means they are most likely not taking Nelson.
QB, OT, WR, secondary are big needs for the Browns. They are pretty well set at DT, DE, LB. Exceptionally well for 0-16 team, if I may add.
Any team that takes any RB high is making a mistake in my opinion.
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Did Dak have a bad year because Zeke had bad year or did Zeke have a bad year because Dak had a bad year?
Dak doesn't like to throw into tight windows (Beasley is their only WR who can get open quick), Boys lost Leary from their O-line along with Doug Free and replaced them with inferior players. Protection is very important for Dak since he's little slow to go from his first read to his second read. And many teams focused on taking Beasley out of the game. Just like Denver in week 2 blowout. They weren't going to allow themselves to get beat with the short stuff to Cole Beasley.
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Browns have Bitonio and Zeitler locked up at left and right guard, for 10 and 10+M per year, respectively. They are more than fine there.
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5 hours ago, jshipp23 said:
Could be right, and that's what kills me..For some reason it's dumb for Colts to take Barkley, but yet no one says it's dumb for Browns or Giants and they both have as many holes if not more than Colts do on their rosters, and both need quarterbacks on top of it..
It's dumb for Colts to take Barkley and at least as dumb for the Browns and Giants.
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1 hour ago, Indeee said:
I'm actually hoping the Colts trade with the Dolphins.
Dolphins get #3 overall and we get Landry and pick 11
Draftteks Draft value chart suggests that #3 is worth 2200 points. #11, 1250 points. The difference is 1150 points or #13.
Landry, on a 16M tag, isn't worth close to #13 overall pick. And if there are no QBs taken before #3, that pick should be worth more than 2200 points.
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35 minutes ago, csmopar said:
But there is a LOT of veteran QBs not under contract next season. I see most of those teams picking some of them up.
Outside of Cousins, they all have significant question-marks. I highly doubt that teams that will pick them up are confident that they have found their QB to lead them to promised land.
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27 minutes ago, NextGenerationLuck said:
NO, you get that evil out of here.
We would get massive haul for #3 pick in that scenario. Two 1st rounders, and couple of day two picks at least, depending on how far we move back. I want Chubb at #3 but I'm more than fine with that scenario.
About half a dozen teams wanting to take QB would desperately want that pick.
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11 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I see your points but so many people act like RB's are irrelevant so I keep Posting a lot about why they are not. I am assuming you want Chubb at 3rd? or who do you want?
FWIW, I don't agree with the article in OP that rushing is irrelevant. Or RBs are. I do believe in strong running game but I think it can an should be achieved without using major assets to do so and instead on focus on pieces that can impact the passing game.
Right now, I'm leaning towards Chubb. And right now, only other optionI have at #3 is to trade down. I don't think any other player is worth it at #3.
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22 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Rice took a ton of pressure off of Flacco and had 61 catches. He saved their season with a 30 Yard run as well. Surely you are not going to tell me that Seattle could've played their backup RB from the beginning of the season and win the SB. Lynch was a Beast and the leader of that Offense. They would've won 2 SB's had Wilson not got cute and threw the dumbest pass in SB history. Maybe the Coaches wanted Wilson to be the hero so they called a pass, I have mo idea? But the play call and pass was the most ridiculous sequence I have ever seen
Rice took a lot of pressure of Flacco and he was a good player but he was largely ineffective in their most important games of the season; the last two. Biggest reason they won was a fluke run by Flacco.
Lynch was a big part why they won but not the main reason. They won 7 games with him until their D hit GOAT levels and they drafted Wilson.
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38 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I just used 2 Great examples in Ray Rice in 2012 on the Ravens and Lynch on the 2013 Seahawks where the RB was the main reason why they won the SB. That is only going back 5 years. Not sure what else I can Post.
Was Lynch the main reason or all-time great defense?
Lynch had pretty identical season in 2011 and 2013. 2011, they miss the playoffs. 2013, they win the SB.
Rice had 3.6 per carry in the 2012 playoffs.
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43 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Ray Rice 257 Carries nearly 1200 Yards, 61 Catches as well - Ravens win the SB in 2012, example 2. They didn't do RB by committee either. Flacco at QB and they win it all.
He split carries with Pierce in about 2:1 ratio in the playoffs.
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42 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Troy Aikman won 3 SB's with Emmitt Smith, without Emmitt they win 0 and that team was stacked. When he sat out for 2 games in 1993 they stunk so it wasn't just their O.Line that made their RB's Great. Dallas was 0-2 without him. After he came back they were a machine. John Elway didn't win a SB until Terrell Davis joined the team. Davis won SB MVP in 1997. Marshall Faulk won as the primary RB in the 1999 Season. Marshawn Lynch was the best Offensive player on the Seahawks when they won the SB in 2013. That team could've won with Trent Dilfer at QB because Lynch was a 1 man focal point - here I used an example where I don't go to back to the Phil Collins days.
As mentioned in the article I posted in the OP, their offense didn't took off until they drafted Wilson. They went 7-9 for two years, drafted Wilson and had less than 9 losses in the following two regular seasons combined. Wilson was and is, extremely efficient passer. They probably would've lost to the 49ers in 2013.
Also only one of those examples is from this decade and even century. Lynch is the only recent example and he had highly efficient QB and one of the GOAT defenses to help him.
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30 minutes ago, Superman said:
Did you happen to pay attention to where Thomas lined up on passing downs?
http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2017SThomas.php
I posted that so you and others can read the quotes from NFL personnel guys about Thomas in that link. He was seen as a tweener DT/DE who was a questionable fit as an NFL edge rusher. He was basically a 3 tech who worked against guards on passing downs and late in games, and when he lined up on the outside he played as a two-gapping 5 tech. He was not a 7/9 edge rusher who worked primarily on the outside, like Chubb. I was and still am a fan of Thomas, but he is not a prototypical edge rush prospect, and will be at his best moving around on the defensive line, even playing inside on passing downs. Michael Bennett was the best comparison, IMO.
So basically, Thomas and Chubb are the same size, and that's about it.
That's basically how he was used at SF this season.
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It's early but I think it will be NFC south.
AFC south could be the one in AFC though.
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56 minutes ago, jshipp23 said:
Chubb has almost IDENTICAL measurables as Soloman Thomas..Just saying..Richardson isn't in the even in Barkley's area code..
Chubbs measurables haven't been even tested yet..
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4 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
Huh?
If they only wanted him for one more year -- this year -- then they didn't have to do anything. He was already under contract for 2018 for 19.2 mill. Then they'd be free and clear of him.
Why sign him to a new 3-year deal which pays him more than 7 million more this year, only to cut him in 2019?
What's the upside for the team in doing that?
If he plays well, the Jags have the option to trade him or keep him. And for cheaper/with better trade return if this contract wasn't signed.
I didn't say they only wanted him for one more year. That was probably going to happen no matter what because of his injury. I was commenting on the contract language which doesn't indicate that they are tied for the next 3 years. It's for one year and then two option years after that.
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9 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
Interesting.... they were locked into him for 2018. Bottles hurt his wrist this past season and played with the injury. It needed surgery. When they used their fifth year option that makes him guaranteed for injury this year.
They could not cut him. He was due 19 mill.
With this move, they're staying married for this year and two more beyond that. I guess they've decided Bortles is the guy for them.
Nah, they're staying married for this year which was probably going to happen anyway. It's basically one year, 26.5M deal (the money that is guaranteed) and the next two years are ''well, we'll see how well you've played''. He's easy cut/trade after year 1.
But still an interesting move as just month ago they didn't trust this guy to make plays with the Super Bowl appareance on the line.
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27 minutes ago, LockeDown said:
Not what I was talking about but i'll bite. He never gets a chance to get those guys, but If he were picking 3rd, he would definitely consider Barkley and he would use him to his full advantage. He also never drafts 1st round receivers which destroys your argument. He found a mismatch with the TE position as his main weapon...who else does that? Nobody sans Carolina. My point is that when someone says the league does something we all should do it, but BB defies that and does his own thing...which happens to work better than the league. It's a mismatch league, but nobody seems to know it but him.
BB not drafting 1st round receivers doesn't really destroy my argument. I'm actually not the biggest fan of drafting receivers high, in most cases. It usually takes them a while to learn NFL offense and FA receivers have very high success rate compared to other positions.
I'd assume that's at least part of the reason BB doesn't draft receivers high but also because they haven't been good at scouting receivers. One high pick on receivers this decade and he was a bust (Aaron Dobson). He also advised his friend and Falcons GM, Dimitrioff, to not trade up for Julio because you could find similar level of player in Jonanthan Baldwin later in the draft.
Chiefs also use TE as a main weapon. Their offense runs through Kelce. He wen't down against Tennessee in the playoffs and they couldn't get anything done. Saints did it too with Jimmy Graham when he was still a beast.
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26 minutes ago, BOTT said:
That matters in the NBA, not so much in the NFL. Players go to Jacksonville every year and that place was once described as the Gary Indiana of the south.
It depends.Olivier Vernon more or less admitted that he went to the NYG instead of JAC in FA back in '16 because of New York. Jacksonville was.., well, Jacksonville.
But usually it's the money that speaks. That's the best appeal we'll have this offseason.
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48 minutes ago, LockeDown said:
I don’t like terms like “ this is a passing league” . Do you think Belichick knows that? He uses every resource that is a mismatch. That’s what we should do toi
Yes and those weapons are usually used in the passing game. Pats haven't used 1st round pick on RB for over a decade. Since then (2006), they've used only two day two picks on RBs, both in 2011. They've invested more heavily on QBs, even though they have Tom Brady.
They've acquired their RBs via trade (Blount), FA pickups on players who were cut (Blount again, Dion Lewis, Danny Woodhead), day 3 pick at the draft (James White) or regular FA (Gillislee and Burkhead). None of those players were picked in the first two days at the draft. 2 were UDFAs.
They haven't had the chance to pick up talent like Barkley, but based on their history with roster construction/position values, they certainly wouldn't use #3 pick on Barkley. Emphasis for them has been on versatile weapons at RB, who each have different strenghts. This applies to the Eagles as well under Howie Roseman.
Polian says's draft Barkley!
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Polian was a great GM.
That said, Polian says a lot of things these days.