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There's no where you'd get anywhere close to even a 2nd round pick for Hughes. Not for a former 1st round bust that hasn't been producing.
Consider this: Anquan Boldin just got traded for 6th round pick. Yeah, he's much older, but he's been infinitely more productive at his position than Hughes.
Bottom line is, you'd be lucky to even sniff a 7th rounder for Hughes. That's pretty much makes him untradeable, because the options are 1) you release him, or 2) you keep him for roster depth. And I don't see the Colts releasing him from his cheap rookie contract.
I understand that his value has dropped from his draft position, but IMO, he hasn't had been given a starters chance to showcase all of his tools. Im not implying in any way, that Hughes is a bust, my point is that his skill set doesn't fit Pagano's scheme, because he's crafted his game in the mold of D.Freeney. He can get to the QB, but his ability to cover is very questionable. He's a 3-4, hands in the ground DE, not the hybrid DE/OLB that the Colts new 3-4 attack is looking for.
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JERRY HUGHES
2010 1ST ROUND DRAFT (PICK #31) BY THE INDIANAPOLIS COLTS
Im not sure what the clauses, or stipulations are in Jerry Hughes contract, but he's a former 1st rounder. Having been on the roster for 3 years now, he obviously is not bound to any ERFA (Exclusive Rights Free Agent) regulations, or the like, and will become an unrestricted free agent in 2015. I'm watching, very closely, looking at the caliber/type of players that Grigson is signing, and i have to say that im starting to lose faith in what J.Hughes can provide for "our" team. Hughes spent most of his career, having conditioned himself as D.Freeney "style" of player. He was picked up to replace Freeney, but looking at Walden, and Sidbury, Hughes may find himself on the bench for another 3 years. What i'd like to know from you guys thinking in the realm of possibilities, but taking a realistic view of Jerry Hughes current value after signing these new free agents,....could we possibly trade Hughes for a 2nd round, and a 5th round pick? -
If Laron Landry can bring that FIRE that Bob Sanders brought to the old Colts........ wooooo wheeee we're gonna be Dangerous!
If Bob brought fire, Laron is gonna bring thunder & lighting. This guy embodies the image of the frankenstein that Grigson & Pagano are creating....
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Great on 3rd and long in coverage. Good nickel back, for us. Glad he's back...now they need to go get A.Q.Shipley.
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You guys may not know, but we've got a guy similiar to Delanie Walker occupying the Colts FB position right now. His name is Dominique Jones #46, and he's a FB/TE who was their red zone threat the last 2 years @ Shepard University. He a caught a touchdown pass from Chandler Harnish in the preseason. I actually like this guy, and think he can contribute to this team. He's a decent blocker, and his catching is better than average. He's the same size as D.Allen, 6'3", 255, and may be a little faster than D.Allen...
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Im only angry about Vasquez. I believed with everything i had that we had he locked up, all he needed to do was sign, but apparently, we just couldn't make a connection. I didn't expect to get levitre, but i didn't expect these signgings either. Ill wait and see what else Grigson will do, before i empty out my magazine of hollow tipped (verbal) bullets on the Colts staff......
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wth? A zone blocking team? We already gave you Peyton, Tamme, and Stokely you greedy *****!
AHHH Why????
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Warren Sapp kills me....He just said that because Bruce Arians is gone, Andrew Luck has lost his safety blanket- the play calling. Really? Pep Hamilton probably knows Luck better than anyone. Come on Sapp.
I don't even know what that means (Sapp's comment).
Missed that . . . but I don't see how play calling was in any way a safety blanket for Luck. I give BA props for leading the team through a difficult situation and getting 9 wins in the process. And he's obviously done well at coaching up Luck as he has done in the past with other QB's.
But that said very few people consider his play calling to be a safety blanket for any QB. His system is one of the most demanding systems there is for QB play. Even more so when they are standing behind a bad offensive line.
Hold on here guys, let's understand what's happening here. Warren Sapp is a former defensive lineman, making comments about coaches protecting players with play calling. A.Luck was sacked 41 times in 2012, compared to A.Rodgers being sacked 51 times in 2012, and still posted an 11 - 5 record, getting the Colts to the playoffs in his rookie campaign. A.Luck played behind a sheet rock of an offensive line, that the injury bug made some holes in, with the help of a few termites. Security blanket? It doesn't matter how good the phone(play-calling) is working,.....how comfortable(successful) can a person be, when the walls of their house start caving in, because of intense weather conditions(blitzes)? We know what the Colts need, Sapp doesn't study enough to stay relevant. His comments lack substance, but have high entertainment value, with his personality. {
}Guys, please don't waste your time or energy, reflecting on Warren Sapp's pearls of wisdom... Sapp is using his "celebrity" to keep his job at the NFL network, so let him stay employed, he's gotta lot of mouths to feed... 
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B.Wells, rather than S. Jackson, at this stage of their careers. Injured, but only 24 years old. Jackson is the star of the NFL All Senior Citizen team.....
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Once i saw who made this topic for discussion, i had to change my response. BCasserly is well aware of Ryan Grigson's experience. It's the off-season, he's giving us something to talk about, and he & the bleacher report, are only confirming what we Colts already knew....**pulls reins back on young colt**....whoooa there....
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Dear sir who wrote that article........ you do realize our GM is an Ex-offensive lineman?? I'm pretty sure he'd know that everything starts up front. With that being said, we could sign a "weapon" if Grigson felt it was necessary. Thanks for your "viewpoint", but no thanks. We got this
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TK of colts.com/fanforums
Agreed....
.......My concern, is towards the staff responsible for supplying Gatorade bottles to the players, during the game. The staff must develop a scheme, which systematically allows them properly nurish, and recharge the offensive line. After taking a few **swigs** of the bottle, if they spill enough of it on their hands, the increased levels of sugar, and electrolytes in the Gatorade will increase the Oline's ability to execute a successful blocking scheme, and ready to go back to work, and win the game. **Seriously**..... :luv: Im rooting for Vasquez & Levitre to both be here in March, and see us draft an LT, that can bench press a stadium, but is a former ballerina.... 
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Not sure if you realize Milliner is not a small corner. If he's going to get dominated by the bigger receivers in the NFL, then so is everyone else.
Milliner is roughly 6'0" and 200. That's Revis' size. And Milliner looked very good in the ball drills at the combine. Rhodes may be fine, but Amerson had a very disappointing senior year, followed by a disappointing combine. I think most now see him as a Corner who needs to play zone. His man-skills are reportedly not all that great.
I'm a Rhodes fan, and a fan of Trufant as well. So, you'll get no arguments from me on them....
You & I need to revisit this topic somewhere towards the middle, going into the end of the 2013 regular season. My assesment of Milliner is not made from observing his size, alone. **On purpose**...
.....I saw his ability to catch the ball,.. :whatever: , im sorry, no i didn't. "Milliner looked very good in the ball drills........At The Combine". The combine is a game of hop-scotch for all potential NFL players, you can see the routes & patterns. I don't care what the combine report is, i believe what i see & don't see. I don't see this guy as a shutdown corner. He may not get burned, but he will get beat, more often than not, aside from the expectations placed upon him.... 
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Im gonna be a bit venomous here, and say that i think Milliner is gonna be either a bust, or simply not worthy of a 1st round pick. This is NFL, he will get dominated by the bigger receivers in this league. His catching is so suspect, that he even looks like he's gonna miss, when the ball goes up in the air, in his direction. Xavier Rhodes will be the best corner in this year's draft, followed by David Amerson, then Desmond Trufant. The Trufant family seem to have a farming system for breeding solid cornerbacks....Marcus, Isaiah, and now Desmond is about to make his debut....
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Ok, ill entertain this post, but why is this even a thread(topic)? If the main receiver, or receiver #1 gets double teamed, then the answer is so obvious, Stevie Wonder could see it...Im setting my attention on Jeremy Kelley, and Nathan Palmer. Im ready to see these guys get a chance to shine.
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Man, this is more of a landslide voting than it would be if you asked who you'd want as a QB between Mark Sanchez & Peyton Manning
Based on the votes, i think DBrown is going to end up as trade bait in the very near, excuse me, in the immediate future....Im not mad about everyone voting against me, i did think that by now, after several hours, at least one fan would've have agreed with me out of kindness. Our colts brothers & sisters really love Ballard. This is so
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As of today,....i accept the fact that the Colts will not be drafting/taking Eddie Lacy, or another running back, possibly, until the later rounds. Having said that, i wanted to take a vote, and get some other view points, on which Colts RB will earn the starting job this season. With all respect due, Vick Ballard earned his keep, and a shot, to be the Colts featured back, in 2013. However, watching him play last season, im still not convinced he has the tools the Colts need to make our oppenents shift their scheme, which would give the Colts the proper balance against the stronger oppenents on the Colts schedule. So having said that, as he prepares for an injury free season, im endorsing this guy....
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Sorry Brian, whoever recorded his time, needs to replace that battery, or get a new unit, because that didn't look like 4.19 speed. He barely got any separation, not mention he was catching passes from a terrible QB. He'll make someone's practice squad, but i don't see him becoming a star in this league.
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Maybe it's just me, but I don't feel comfortable taking a guy who will be older then Luck, Ballard, fleener, T.Y, and Allen.
He could turn out great, but Its kinda like taking Brandon weeden last year for the browns. He's as old or older then Arron Rogers. Just not worth the first round pick IMO.
While i understand your concern about age, I think it's premature of us, and somewhat irrational, to dismiss this guy as a late round pick, based on his age, but potentially immediate impact. Most of our favorite players, do not give us consistently, 3 to 5 years of the SAME stat lines that we've come to expect, because it generates, and manifests into wins for his team. After a dominating season, teams look at game tape, and plan their schemes around removing THAT players effectiveness towards their game plan, which result in weak stats, due to doubleteams, blocking schemes, and zone coverages created specifically to stop that guy. Case in point Jason Pierre-Paul. In 2011 he registered 65 tackles, 21 assists, 16.5 sacks, then comes back the next year and gives us 43 tackles, 23 assists, 6.5 sacks. What happened to JPP in 2012? He's only 24.....While age can be a factor, a 26 year old Margus Hunt, has a greater upside than a 29 year old Brandon Weeden. If the Colts can squeeze out 7 years of productivity that result in 2 or 3 more Lombardi trophies, the Colts will have received an awesome return on their investment, in taking Margus Hunt in the 1st round.
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Im looking forward to having a better understanding of Ryan Grigson's scheme, for what he feels is the B.P.A. at every draft positon...
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People forget, i doubt teams do, that Hunt was mediocre at the senior bowl. having said that, I could see one of the more talented teams at the bottom of the first round rolling the dice on him.
"I could see one of the more talented teams at the bottom of the first round rolling the dice on him"....Agreed, that team that is close to the bottom, that has the 24th pick, would be getting a great player...... :hmm:
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I wanna say this carefully.....in a matchup or selection process where the Colts position allows them to take either Ezekiel "Ziggy" Ansah, or Margus Hunt, ill take Margus Hunt, over Ziggy Ansah without Hesitation, in the 1st round.
Ezekiel "Ziggy" Ansah Margus Hunt
6'5" - Height 6'8* - Height
271 - Weight 277 - Weight
4.63 - 40 time 4.60* - 40 time
21 - Bench Press Reps 38* - Bench Press Reps
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With his speed, wingspan, and knack for swatting planes out of the sky, he would be awesome on third and long. Whether he's speed-rushing the passer, or covering the flats to prevent a first down, Margus Hunt is my choice over Ezekiel Ansah, and Jarvis Jones. (Please believe, some teams are going to reach for QB's, and both of the WR's(T.A. & C.P.) in the 1st round, so these 3 guys will be available @ the 24th pick)
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After the holes in the Oline are patched up, the entire offense will be on display for the entire NFL to see and experience.
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So you are saying those 4 receivers will average about 75 catches between them? Besides Reggie and Lavon, weren't the rest undrafted? Not every undrafted becomes Rod Smith.
How can anyone, accurately predict the number of catches that any pass catcher is gonna have? :bag: ....Stop looking at my stat projection, and see my point. The Indianapolis Colts do not need to spend any more money on pass catchers. Wayne,Fleener, Allen, Hilton,Kelley,Brazill,Palmer, and Whalen, give the colts enough W.M.D.'s, (weapons of mass destructive) for us to destroy our oppenents city in less than 60 minutes. With Hilton, Palmer, and Brazill(long-range weapons), we can hit anything within a 70 yard radius. Wayne,Fleener, Allen, & Kelley are matchup nightmares for LB's, and inexperienced/short DB's, and our running backs seem to catch the ball, better than they run it. After Grigson, thru free agency, puts these cemet patches on our offensive wall, our offense is gonna finish in the top 8 next season........I'll take Jeremy Kelly over Rod Smith anyday...(Yes, i know who is, so does John Elway) If we don't draft a more explosive RB, the ratio for running vs passing will be something close to 35/65....
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UH, WHAT? WR?....you gonna be kidding me
!!! Let's stop thinking about WR's, and put into perspective the number of pass catchers on the team. The days of a wide receiver, catching 100plus passes is coming to an end. Fleener & Allen will catch 100 passes between them. Reggie, Lavon, Nathan, and Jeremy will share 300 receptions between the four of them, with the backs sharing 50 - 70 passes between them. Until we get an effective running game, we will be throwing the ball 60 - 65% of the time, after the patchwork for the OLine has been completed.
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**cools down**.... well lets see what Grigson has in store for us...
}Guys, please don't waste your time or energy, reflecting on Warren Sapp's pearls of wisdom... Sapp is using his "celebrity" to keep his job at the NFL network, so let him stay employed, he's gotta lot of mouths to feed... 
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. Im standing with my vote. I think he'll win the job in the off-season, get injured and lose it to Ballard in the regular season, again.....
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!!! Let's stop thinking about WR's, and put into perspective the number of pass catchers on the team. The days of a wide receiver, catching 100plus passes is coming to an end. Fleener & Allen will catch 100 passes between them. Reggie, Lavon, Nathan, and Jeremy will share 300 receptions between the four of them, with the backs sharing 50 - 70 passes between them. Until we get an effective running game, we will be throwing the ball 60 - 65% of the time, after the patchwork for the OLine has been completed.
Possibly Trade Jerry Hughes for 2nd & 5th round draft spots?
in NFL Draft, Scouting, and Free Agent Talk
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**Please re-read the post**...Im clearly asking about the possibilities....it's not loaded....Possibly, Realm of Possiblities, are the key words here. I don't have factual evidence of any team that has shown interest, but i refuse to believe that there are absolutely no GMs' in the NFL who wouldn't take interest in him, if the Colts offered him in exchange for a draft pick. Being a 1st rounder is worth considering, at least. In the same way that Grigson signed draft picks that few teams were considering as a good player who could help them win, so will a team who is looking to improve their pass rush, would most definitely look at him. So this forum is not fantasia,....nor is it the place to apply for the GM position with the Colts organization, that position has been filled. I fantasized, and sprinkled that same pixie dust around my house when i expected the Colts to keep Hall Of Fame, Pro Bowl QB, Peyton Manning....one bag of pixie dust only allows for one miracle per bag. Unfortunately, we couldn't afford it, but the fairies blessed us with Ryan Grigson & Andrew Luck.