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4 minutes ago, ChuggaBeer said:
Can't Kelly also play guard? Can P-J?
If you want to play them together... I'd probably try JPJ at RG rather than Kelly.
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For whatever it's worth... Matt Miller said on Mina Kimes' podcast that he's hearing the Colts might take Worthy as the 4th WR in the draft. Said he's hearing "we need speed, we need speed" from the Colts. The thing is... Brian Thomas fits that description too... and so does AD Mitchell...
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10 minutes ago, Superman said:
I doubt it. I'm not against it, but it's not likely, IMO. And I think OL depth will be important, so I'd probably rather keep him anyway, unless someone is making an amazing offer for him.
Colts get Powers-Johnson in R2 and you get a call from the Cowboys or Steelers asking for Ryan Kelly. They are offering #87(#84) for Kelly. Do you take it? What if it's not pick in the 80s(3d) but rather 119(PIT's 4th)?
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4 minutes ago, Superman said:
He's put the retirement rumors to rest, at least to my satisfaction. I wouldn't expect him to rock the boat either way, and it wouldn't change my draft strategy at all. I was just thinking out loud, especially since he commented on his contract situation the other day.
I must have missed that. What did he say about his contract?
Edit: I just saw it. Yeah... he seems like he wants to keep playing. Scratch that doubt in my previous post. Well... yeah. I guess... whatever Ballard decides, I'd be OK with it I think. BTW... is it possible we draft a new guy early(day 2) and we trade Kelly? Any contender needing a C?
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1 minute ago, Superman said:
I agree, it's Ballard's responsibility to find Kelly's successor, and the fact that everyone else has been re-upped except for him is probably a concern of his. You can expect that concern to multiply significantly if we draft a center early.
Should we care? Maybe... if you have someone throwing off the vibes, it could be problematic, and issues like this can snowball. Not that it would stop me from drafting anyone, but they should be prepared for whatever happens next.
The way I feel about it is - if the rumors about him considering retirement are true... maybe he will be OK with it and be a good mentor to the new guy in his final year and the Colts can give him a warm send off into retirement after the season. If he wants to keep playing... it will serve as motivation to show other teams that he still has it and they can give him another big contract. He doesn't strike me as a guy who will make huge problems or be malcontent of any sort. He might be disappointed, but I don't see that as a reason to not draft a guy we really like and think can be our center of the next 5-10 years...
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Just now, Superman said:
Let's say the Colts take Jackson Powers-Johnson in the second round, does Ryan Kelly cause trouble?
The real question is... should we care if he does(in the long-term that is)? This is his last year under contract and he will be 32 by the start of the 2025 season... Ballard is absolutely within his rights to prepare the team with Kelly's successor, especially if we are feeling like we need to budget the expenses on the OL with impending contract for Raimann...
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4 minutes ago, ColtStrong2013 said:
Ballard says interior line is as well.Some OL experts are suggesting there might be 10 starting centers in this draft... this would be insane if it happens.
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4 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
By my count there are 17 WRs on this chart. Unless one of them has a serious health issue I’d expect all of these 17 to go in the first two days of the draft. And maybe 2-3 more as well. All in the first 3 rounds.Yeah, there are a lot of good WRs in this draft... I think even Ballard said in his presser he thinks WR is pretty deep this year.
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Just now, Dobbinblitz said:
Not that it will matter in the end, but a number of scouts and front office personnel were upset with this approach. In the Athletic's GM and Coaches polling Harrison received half the votes as the best receiver in the draft. The other half voted for either Nabers or Odunze
I hope the half that like Odunze or Nabers more are all drafting ahead of us... might create some opportunities for us.
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Just now, ChuggaBeer said:
Not really have specific player. MHJ. Some of the more talked about players. etc Harrison didn't do the combine but wasnt sure about a pro day. Just curious
Yah, MHJ didn't test at any point during the off-season. He pretty much said after the season that he will be preparing for real football rather than underwear olympics and that he thinks his career is better served this way and if teams have questions about his athleticism they can watch his tape.
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17 minutes ago, ChuggaBeer said:
Is RAS established from the combine? There are a lot of players I would have expected to be on there that are not. I assume they are not there because they didn't work out???
I don't know much about this stuff
It's from the combine and verified pro day numbers if there are missing combine numbers. You need to have some number of tests and measurements in order to have a RAS score so maybe the players you assumed would be there didn't test...
Who did you think would be there but isn't?
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17 minutes ago, Superman said:
Who feels like paring this down even further? Arm length, height, weight, etc...
Theo Johnson is an example of someone who tests well, but his athleticism doesn't show up on tape all that much. I didn't watch a ton of him, but from what I did watch, I didn't see an explosive athlete.
Yeah, I think you can cut down the list even further, but it's a good starting point. Ballard's last few drafts have been with average RAS of 9.5 or something of the sort. (2022 - 9.63, 2023 - 9.48)
I'm not sure we can completely eliminate some players because of lack of length but we definitely can emphasize some with great length at certain positions - DL, LB, CB... Ballard has a history of drafting high arm length prospects at thsoe positions.
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4 minutes ago, cdgacoltsfan said:
Cooper Dejean went to South Dakota State? Hmmmm
Huh? No... it's 2 separate tables that here show one next to the other so you see the school of the player on the row from table 1 and the name of the player on the same row from table 2. Just open the tween and see the full lists... actually ... here they are:
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Here's a good list to follow for the Colts draft in general, not just for the 15th pick... players with the highest RAS in the draft:
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13 minutes ago, Superman said:
There aren't a lot of them to talk about. Of the handful of WR prospects in the sub 4.3 range, Henry Ruggs is probably the best player. He ran 4.27, and was doing well halfway through his second season, but we know how that ended.
The best overall player in that range is Champ Bailey, who ran 4.28 back in 1999, and had a great career. Second best is Chris Johnson, who ran a 4.24, and had a strong career as well. So being fast isn't a curse, nor is it disqualifying.
We already know that being fast doesn't make him a good player.
Tyreek Hill ran 4.29 at his pro day... No idea what Waddle would have ran, he was still recovering from his injury that he returned to play in the playoffs with. Possible he runs somewhere in that range too?
The problem is... there really aren't that many players who have ran so fast so the sample is not big.
If we expand to other positions... you mentioned Champ Bailey and Chris Johnson. Tariq Woolen ran 4.26... which for his size is quite possibly the most impressive run of all of them.
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2 minutes ago, throwing BBZ said:
I think they would worry more about Wiggins than Worthy.
Yeah, that's another option I was thinking about... With Wiggins it might be more important and more impactful for him to gain some strength and weight...
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BTW, the comment "never pass on a great player even if it isn't a need" ... again.. can it be Byron Murphy(doubt it)? Can it be an OLineman?
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(ooops, wrong thread... please delete mods)
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11 minutes ago, chad72 said:
Dude, you read my mind for Rounds 2 and 4, I was going to wait till draft day to post it.
I hate you
, LOL
Just be sure you type Kneeland's name correctly.
Hope I don't lose points for botching his name 
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1 minute ago, Solid84 said:
I think Bowers would be the only (realistic) reason we stay at 15. I feel pretty certain if he's not there we trade back.
Yeah, It's either him or... another player they think highly of. It's hard to say from the outside. Might be Mitchell at CB? Might be one of the OLinemen? I feel like the biggest chance we get a blue chipper(on our board) to slip to us is probably an OT, because there are a lot of them that are highly ranked and there doesn't seem to be general consensus about them so it's possible the beauty in our eyes is still there at 15. Can you imagine this though... Mitchell and Thomas are there, a few of the EDGEs are there for us to pick and Ballard goes and picks... Troy Fautanu or Taliese Fuaga?
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4 minutes ago, Stephen said:
Unless they draft both brian thomas and worthy
I don't see that happening. I think they are somewhat redundant.
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15 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said:
You wonder how many NFL hits the guy can take
I think he is an extreme liability when we run the ball as well
Brian Thomas or Latu with 15th for me
This is a legit question that the Colts should ask themselves. Worthy left 2 of the games he played this last year because of big hits by defenders. Now he didn't miss significant playing time because of it, but I think it's a reasonable question to ask, especially when you see that his instinct is actually not to slide down or go out of bounds but to fight for extra yardage.
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I was thinking a bit about what Ballard said in that clip from "Behind the Colts", about "he's not going to get much bigger". No idea if he was talking about Worthy... but if he is... he's right. Whether Worthy ends up playing at 165 or 176... this is still extremely small and light. Whether he's in the 1st percentile or 5th percentile of athlete's in weight in the league, this doesn't change the type of player and type of worries you would have about him with any significance. So... in a way, I kind of find that conversation a bit pointless. IMO the question should be - okay. he is small... and he will always be small. Can we work with that? And can we live with the risk of injury for that small of a player? And the answer can be no here... I'm not saying we necessarily need to take that risk.
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Round 1 - #15
A. Xavier Worthy, WR, Texas
B. Brian Thomas, WR, LSU
C. Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia
Round 2 - #46
A. Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M
B. Marshall Kneeland, DE, Western Michigan
C. Jaden Hicks, S, Washington State
Round 3 - #82
A. Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon
B. Darius Robinson, DE/DT, Missouri
C. Ben Sinnott, TE, Kansas State
Round 4 - #117
A. Jalyx Hunt, DE, Houston Christian
B. Mason McCormick, OG, South Dakota State
C. Malik Washington, WR, Virginia
Round 5 - #151
A. Beaux Limmer, OC, Arkansas
B. Tanor Bortolini, OC, Wisconsin
C. Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville
Round 6 - #191
A. Decamerion Richardson, CB, Mississippi State
B. Qwan'tez Stiggers, CB, Toronto
C. Nick Gargiulo, OC, South Carolina
Round 7 - #234
A. Millard Bradford, SS, TCU
B. Mark Perry, FS, TCU
C. Dalton Tucker, OG, Marshall
BONUS: Will the Colts trade the #15 pick this year?
A: Yes, they will trade back.
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, LOL 
Hope I don't lose points for botching his name 
Colts have the 15th pick in the draft. (MERGE)
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