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  1. 16 hours ago, PRnum1 said:

    I think it is more about people gambling and losing lots of money.

     

    I was reading an article about Sloan Stevens the tennis player.  She lost a tennis match in the US Open and she was the favorite.

     

    In her instagram comments were several people threatening to kill her.

     

    True it could be mentally ill people, but I believe 95% is due to gambling losses and anger over it.

    I hadn't thought of that

  2. 14 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

    Sincere question. Aside from simply voicing his opinion (which most have historically shrugged off), giving a divided nation and fanbase something more to squabble about, and putting some key players on the spot publicly, what did it really accomplish?

    I don't agree that his opinion is shrugged off.

    Look at the reaction he got here

    What he accomplished is NOT being silent.  Fans who want him to be silent are critical and personally insulting toward him on his website.

    The rest of us are happy

    Our divide isn't greater

    It's the same

     

    More people need to speak out in favor of vaccinations

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  3. 4 minutes ago, Colt.45 said:

     

    Exactly. And it's pretty much what Chris Ballard has said on multiple occasions. We've already been bitten by this issue this season, and more than any fan, Jim Irsay feels the direct impact of this particular decision CW has made. Folks want to staple the distraction, cuckoo label on Irsay. It's unfortunate behavior IMHO. If anything, it took too long for Jim to come out and say this.

    Yeah pretty hypocritical stuff

    People mocking him and saying he shouldn't talk about vaccination...............at the same time feeling entitled to share their point of view not only on vaccination but also on who should be allowed to speak

     

    That's what makes me roll my eyes.

     

    Proud of our owner!

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  4. 1 hour ago, EastStreet said:

     

    Like I mentioned by Grandfather and Uncle/Godfather. Absolutely authoritarians. And neither were all about themselves. They were two of the most selfless people I've ever known. One especially was a devout Catholic, and tireless giver to his family, church, and community.

    My dad was a coach......not professionally but by choice

    He grew up without a dad and when he found football, he fell in love with everything about it, especially the coaching

     

    Coaching was how my dad parented.  It worked in a lot of ways.  He never ever ever yelled at any of us (he had 8 kids).  But he was a relentless coach, always wanting us to be better, always telling us we could be better.

     

    Those of us that played sports, had dad as a coach.  It was his happy place

     

    He was also an amazing salesman so, I think there's some over lap there.

     

    Anyway, there are limitations to coaching as a parenting style but I can tell you that he was not a jerk.  He was just relentless.  He never gave up, he believed in us.  We were his team.

     

    His expectations were high and we lived up to them because we would never have dreamed of letting him down.

     

    After we left home he took to mentoring people in AA.  At his funeral I cannot tell you how many people there were that came and told us what a difference dad made in their lives.

     

    I don't hate coaches who yell. I do honestly think that they are not as good as those who motivate people in other ways.

     

     

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  5. 11 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

    I think you really should re-examine your definition of authoritarian, as you seem to equate it to what sounds like a tyrant, or even sociopath lol. 

     

    I know you do

     

     

  6. 1 minute ago, Shive said:

     

    It's all about consistently holding your players to a high standard, holding them accountable to that standard, and calling them on their stuff when they make excuses.

    I would think the hardest thing for a coach is over riding player self interest in favor of TEAM.

    Most of these guys don't have long careers.  They need to do well for themselves fast.

    A great coach gets them all on the same page

    no idea how they do that.  But I don't think it's yelling

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  7. 10 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

    You are equating every authoritarian to evil. My grandfather was an authoritarian. He was far from evil. 

    My godfather/uncle as well. Iron hand, wonderful heart.

    You seem not to be able to differentiate. 

    I'm not idealizing anyone. I admire guys like Lombardi, who most see as the best coach of all time.

     

    Who is being violent with players?

    All players that make it to the NFL have a skill set that got them there. Some guys who were pushed by their coaches hard in college end up washing out when things aren't as structured or demanding. And some who had less demanding coaches in college do better when they get to the NFL and have a demanding coach. 

     

    In short, different people respond to different things. And again, you don't have to be disparaging or demeaning, to be an authoritarian, disciplinarian, or simply a demanding yeller type.

    Nobody is saying coaches need to yell. But those who do yell, shouldn't be labeled as evil doing meanies. There are still plenty of yellers out there, and I'd guess more on the trench units than others. 

    Nobody is equating yelling/jerk to effective leadership. I'm just not going to equate yelling/jerk to ineffective either. Dungy was semi-effective while being soft spoken. Weeb Ewbank, possibly the greatest Colt's coach of all time, was a yeller. 

    mmm

    I think that coaches need a lot of qualities.  They need to be able to handle a lot different responsibilities as they are more or less the hub of the team and interacting with everyone. They have far more to deal with than either highschool or college coaches.  They need to be strategic, able to select the right personnel, able to delegate, able to monitor, able to communicate, able to keep their cool and think.

     

    You mentioned Belichick.  I think that what likely makes him a great coach is attention to detail. 

     

    Dungy was a great coach.

     

    I don't dismiss someone because they are a jerk, I don't idolize them either. I think a lot of people do idolize jerks

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  8. 4 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

    Some of the best, and most effective leaders in history were authoritarians. It's not a badge of honor, but it doesn't have to be. It's just fact. And they were indeed leaders. Perhaps not the kind you like, or prefer, but effective leaders nonetheless. 

     

    The utopian view of all things just isn't reality. Biggest reason is that it fails to acknowledge many basic things innate to simple human nature. It's like training soldiers. You don't have "nice" guys training people to go "not be nice". Football, right or wrong, is a violent sport. Players are literally hitting each other for 3+ hours. That's just not nice.

     

    Some of the worst human beings in history have been authoritarians and have caused an enormous amount of damage. They do it in a short amount of time and they tend to end poorly. Because in the end, their priorities are entirely about themselves. They tend to be unstable and lack self control. People who rule by fear are the worst kind of leader

     

    You are idealizing authoritarians and that's just not reality. It's your version of football 'utopia'

     

    I think that human beings can be violent and that football is a violent sport.  That doesn't mean you should be violent with the players.

     

    I cannot say what style of leadership is best for a team but most of these players are self motivated to succeed.  If they're not, they don't last.

     

    These are highly paid and trained professional athletes.

     

    I find the whole argument that coaches need to yell tiresome.  It's like saying that booing helps the team to win.  It doesn't.  It just makes you feel better.

     

    That's not to say that structure and expectations and consequences are not important.  They are.

     

    I'm just tired of fans equating yelling and being a jerk with effective leadership

     

     

     

     

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  9. 15 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

    Lombardi was a yeller and authoritarian. Belichick is considered an ace hole. Two best NFL coaches ever.

    And a lot of the guys that have nice demeanors at the press conferences are yellers and disciplinarians behind the scenes.

     

    You don't have to be demeaning or disparaging to be "hard". But it's football. It's OK to yell, or tell someone they stink. 

    Some people who yell and demean people are terrible at what they do

    correlation does not equal causation

    Losing your temper is not a badge of honor that is proof of greatness for fans, players, or coaches or anyone really

     

    I was watching a program about Mohammed Ali.  He was loud and obnoxious in public and apparently behind the scenes he was one of the most caring human beings, always looking for a way to help

     

    Authoritarians make everything about themselves.  Always have, always will.  Leaders lead

     

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  10. 1 hour ago, Shive said:
    23 hours ago, EastStreet said:

     

    I'm not sure why people assume that yelling and being a jerk = effective leader/coach.

    Agree

    Loud, obnoxious, and pushy people tend to get put in leadership positions, not just in sports.  More often than not from what I've seen they are ineffective and roundly disliked

     

    I mean how many of us think that if someone is a jerk, it's helpful?

     

    I'm all for expectations but this notion that somebody is either a jerk or he cannot coach is nonsense

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  11. 20 minutes ago, Shive said:

    MOD NOTE:

    Back and forths about Kaepernick completely derailed this thread and all posts related to this have been removed. Please keep this thread to the topic of Wentz injury updates.

    Agree

    Also, anyone derailing this thread further risks suspension

    We all know your opinion, you don't need to state it again

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  12. 16 hours ago, EastStreet said:

     

    If you as a moderator can change the settings to allow for more Qs, I would include :-). Right now, limited to 3 questions per poll thread. 

     

    BTW, it's a pretty easy setting to adjust for those with permissions. I'm on another board (IU) with the same software, and they changed it super quick.

     

    16 hours ago, SteelCityColt said:

     

    I did not know there was a limit, and I don't think I have the authoritah to up it. @Nadine would know I'm sure. 

     

    16 hours ago, EastStreet said:

    A few folks have questioned it in the past, but not sure anyone ever requested admin/mod help. 

    Would be fantastic if we could get it set to at least 6. The other college board I'm on set it to 10 I think and that works very well.

    done

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