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This bugs me with Philly. I don't know how this will work well with a hot head like Butler on Philly and also spacing/shooting. But I was secretly hoping the Celtics would swap Butler for Haywashed since Irving/Butler are tight.
At this point a few orange security cones can defend better then Gordon Hayward.
I still think the odd man out is Gordon sadly and I can't always deny this. I mean last night Irving had to go to a family funeral so he misses the game. Celtics without Irving actually got WORSE on defense. This is not even a joke, Irving has played good defense in a lot of games this year.
I don't want Philly to get better, the C's own them but still I hate how the east is making all these nice trades for stars like Kawhi and Butler while last night Joe freaking Ingles made Gordon Hayward look bad in Utah.
And ex Celtic Jae Crowder lit up the C's "defense" too. My goodness gracious.....
Anyway thats my friendly Celtics rant of the day.
Carry on.....
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On 11/7/2018 at 10:17 PM, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Well this is a stinker. Nobody is doing anything except Dipo who has 32 Points. Philly has hit 10 3's to our 4 that is the difference. We can't throw it in the ocean tonight
. I would love to be able to pick up a player like Korver, a guy who can give you 4 or 5 3's on any given night.
Reminds me of Irving at times with Dipo. Irving dropped 30 vs. Denver nights ago and the C's still lose.
Just have to try to find a way to get more guys on the team hot, shots don't always fall in.
Dipo though man, the only reason I admit I sometimes try to catch the Pacers.....
You caught Philly at the wrong time though, they were in a slump and were desperate for a statement game.
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Friendly Celtics update.
Rozier and Ainge said the reports are untrue and he is not unhappy. But we'll see.
Last night the Celtics were on the brink of losing in Phoenix. In the first half only one starter by halftime scored for real (Irving). C's were down 22 points to a bad Suns team. I saw mystical trades happening before my very eyes....
Then Kyrie went bananas. 39 points, magical shots, stealing balls and he managed to get Jaylen Brown hot again. He even passed the ball to Marcus Morris for the game tying shot to win in OT.
I saw visions again for the first time of "Cleveland Kyrie" when he used to go nuts with Lebron on the court scoring like a crazy person with his jersey untucked. God I love that Kyrie.....
Kyrie said the team will be OK and he will make sure of this.
I won't lie though, Kyrie+Lebron used to be pure magic at times on the court.....I had visions of this again.
Anyway my point is if you get bored late tonight Gordon Hayward makes his return to Utah *gulp*. And Kyrie is not playing since his grandfather died and he had to attend his memorial today.
So Gordon sans Kyrie in Utah, should be great. I think?
Brad did the unthinkable last night too btw. He BENCHED Jayson Tatum, golden boy Tatum. And he even BENCHED Gordon at the end of the game for Marcus Morris.
Wowww this Boston team is a trip this year.
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Might sound odd but it's extremely cool to hear. I am sure Brad Stevens hooked this up being he is from Indy and the Celtics were recently in Denver for a few days.
QuoteManning joined the team to watch some film and he seemed to have left a good impression on the guys. via NBC Boston
“It’s great, man,” Kyrie Irving said of Manning’s visit. “He’s a championship winner, unbelievable preparer of the game. He was doing it for so long, thinking about the injuries he had to endure. It was great to see him just come and talk to your team, being in Denver and just having an echelon of greatness coming and talking, there’s nothing like it.”
Stevens obviously shared the enthusiasm. via The Athletic
“It’s not about the Xs and Os, it’s about how they run their meetings, who’s communicating, how they’re communicating, how the players are responding, the activities of the players in those meetings,” Stevens once said. “When you’re at a practice and Peyton Manning’s involved, it’s unbelievable. It’s like a clinic. So having that opportunity to be around those types of elite performers and athletes is something.”
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5 hours ago, dgambill said:
Thanks...yeah he is thinking out there...not certain. You can't play fast or play your best when you are thinking, worried if you need to shoot, drive, pass. He just doesn't fit into the current team they have. His confidence is down...and clearly Tatum is a star and playing the exact role and position Gordon plays...but better since Gordon is still recovering. He just doesn't fit. I truly believe on just about any other team he would get his feel back and become a great player again. He was never athletically over powering. His great basketball IQ, excellent skills, and feel for the game made him an all-star. Honestly I would love to have him here long term. I think he would fit along nicely with Victor. If we could somehow trade you Bogs and Young or do a 3 team trade where someone else takes our extra pieces and gives you back a good player and we land him I would be thrilled. It may not pay off this year but next....I would be stoked. We have the future cap space to keep him and honestly it would help keep you guys out of the luxury tax when it comes time to re-sign Irving and Rozier and the future with Tatum and Brown. You can't keep them all. I really do think Ainge will move him...he is just waiting for his stock to go up. If you could add a rim protector and/or a 3pt specialist...watch out! I'm keeping an eye on Kyle Korver getting bought out and you guys going after him. A nice specialist off the bench.
I think I been too tough on Gordon. He's still trying to feel things out and in my mind I have noticed some of the backups not meshing with him well since they might feel Gordon didn't earn his starting spot after missing the entire season.
One thing about Gordon, despite his lack of impact on the court in stats, he is running the offense well when he is out there. He's a smart smart guy.
It's going to be tough to move Gordon due to how much money his contract is.
Against Denver the other night, the starters actually had a 19 point lead vs. the Nuggets. The bench and weird rotations then blew the game wide open......since Brad has too many issues IMO trying to keep everyone happy and get them out there.
The deep playoff run wasn't the best thing in the world since it gave a lot of guys an agenda.
We'll see how this all works out though.
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The problem might very well be Terry Rozier and not Gordon Hayward.
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2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I would like to have Gordon here as he could start at SF but you guys would probably want Myles and I wouldn't do that trade. Good Big's that can play Defense are hard to come by. Myles along with Sabonis gives us 2 Good Centers which most teams don't have.
-Definitely no shame in losing to Houston, it was a game the Pacers controlled most of the night but lost it in the end. I just seen Denver beat Boston, Denver is 9-1 WOW.
Done. You can have him for free along with a first rounder (Celtics have several from other teams).
He loves the Pacers so much he even passed you the ball to end the game the other night.
Okay just wanted to rant. I feel better now. I mean I don't hate Hayward but my goodness for 30 million dollars it can make me feel a bit icky......thats a lot of money!!!!
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No shame losing to the Rockets at all.
Guys, I got to rant. Something is seriously wrong with the Celtics. My gut says it's Gordon Hayward. Kyrie was hot as hell tonight scoring, and Brad has to keep all his guys happy and give minutes to Rozier/Morris etc who kill the momentum.
Gordon is just like, utterly USELESS as a starter, but he's Brad's boy.
Rozier doesn't even want to pass the ball to Gordon in the second unit.
Will Danny Ainge over ride Brad this year and make a trade?
OMG.....well at least my husband got the Red Sox so he is still content.
Do you all want Gordon back in Indy where he belongs?
And I feel so bad, Gordon has been through hell with his injury but he does not contribute A THING as a starter and he holds back Jaylen and Tatum.
Pacers will win the east now.
No idea but just saying your team is more fun right now then Boston outside of a few good performances this year by Irving and Tatum.
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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I am not sure Hayward will ever be the same, it did take PG a full season before he looked like his oldself (sort of his oldself) and even then he still didn't drive and dunk as usual.
Sorry didn't mean to hog up the thread with Celtics stuff.
But man thats sad! It did most say take PG a full season. And then like you said he didn't dunk and drive as much.
Part of me wonders if it's a mental thing? I am slightly fascinated.
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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I noticed after PG's injury he took nights off during the Regular Season. He didn't drive as much to the basket either. He still was a beast in the 2016 and 2017 Playoffs for us though. After his injury, IMO he paced himself. We had Toronto beat in 2016 (took them 7) and every game vs the Cavs was close in 2017 in Round 1.
Okay thats what I notice with Gordon. Granted it's only early November and stuff. But compared to him in Utah he lacks serious aggression on offense. He's a smart smart guy and can run an offense, but I notice him taking some awful jump shots too. He's okay on defense at times but at other times I have seen teams attack him this year so far which is painful to watch.
I mean I can't say he might ever get back to this again but geez......
I'll be patient though but it's soooo sad. I mean every move he makes is celebrated almost like an accomplishment.
I am happy Pacers fans did give Gordon and Brad a pretty good round of applause though at the game.
I know since the injury Gordon has been in contact a lot with PG. And I know Stevens had contacted Frank Vogel too.
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8 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I agree, If Dipo misses at the end, the Celtics fans wouldn't bring up the REFS at all. The Pacers were smart by not calling a Timeout and letting Stevens set up his Defense. We did shoot 16 more FT's which is glaring but the Celtics shot 46 3's. That isn't the C's game IMO, they aren't the Warriors or Rockets. They are more about Defense and getting the higher % shot. That is how the Pacers play too more like the Celtics. Hayward was 0-5 from 3 as well.
Where is Gordon from Utah who used to drive to the basket all the time? Sigh.......
I admit yeah the 3 point crap with the C's is getting bad. We'll see if they stop it since I heard it's a new offense. I mean even BAYNES has been taking a lot of 3's. And he's a center.....
I agree about getting the higher % shot too, thats why ball movement has been poor as well.
Honestly if it were up to me and it isn't, all the big shots would go to Kyrie and Tatum, period.....that would be my main scoring duo.
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I had meant to ask you guys a bit if you remember how long it took Paul George to regain form after his gruesome injury years back. I remember it was similar to Haywards. But PG was younger and I think he is a more athletic guy.
Did he ever look the same to you guys again or did little things change a bit?
I worry about Gordon since not only is bringing him back a challenge but he still has ankle pain and soreness he has to play through for a while he was told. And he was simply awful in some games this year. He has had a few good games and is better on D then I thought. But sometimes I just worry.....
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1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
We did shoot 16 more FT's but they shot 46 3's and didn't drive much to the basket. After the way we got screwed in Game 5 vs LeBron last year with the series at 2-2, I do not want to hear a single person whine about us screwing anyone
. We got punked by the REFS royally in that game and everyone knows it. It cost us a Playoff series.
It wasn't the refs at all last night.
What it really breaks down to with the Dipo 3 at the end is the Pacers rushed it down the court so the Celtics would be in transition and would be unable to organize their unit to put Smart on Dipo. They wanted to catch Irving on Dipo which they did and burn him. Smart had a MONSTER game defensively and Irving is clearly no Marcus Smart on defense lol. Irving wasn't supposed to be on Dipo but somehow was and Brad was yelling something on the sideline to Kyrie but it was too late.
Normally at end of Celtics games in those situations Stevens likes to have a time out or hopes the opponent calls one so they can substitute Smart over Irving in for D and vice versa for O with Irving over Smart if it's the other way around.
Pacers know the Celtics well enough by now that they seriously did get them with their pants down.
Thats the luck of the draw with top teams and close endings. Just like last year too with the game in Indy when Rozier stole the inbounds pass then dunked it with seconds left. Thats the game ending that made poor oldunclemark have to go lie down for the night.
Stevens just basically says at the end of these sorts of games that one team made one more big play then the other.
Don't think the refs were a factor in this one since it seemed more about who could out smart the opponent and just come up with that one extra play...
JMO though.
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6 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Damn good Post as usual Jules. Stevens will figure it out regarding rotation. I agree though you guys have an overload at SF, nobody thought Tatum would be this good before you signed Hayward. Brown is shockingly Good too LOL. I still honestly think Boston has the best team in the East but for 1 night I can celebrate this win. Oladipo is Great and Clutch, he is Paul George + a Porterhouse Steak from St Elmo if you get me
Pacers deserved the win and it was pay back for that weird win we stole last year in Indy. That sort of weird clustered up ending sort of game thing that makes no sense. Pacers/Celtics have some really fun games.
I am just saying, something is off with the rotations in Boston. It makes my head spin.......too many wings...
I have seen some bizarre lineups from Brad this year and I think he is still trying to figure this thing out.
Pacers seem pretty set though with their chemistry.
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It breaks my heart to hear C's fans criticize Gordon, but last night.....he passed the ball at the end right to the Pacers. Hey I knew he loved Indy but not that much.
But man I really want him to succeed, but I feel he is hurting Tatum/Brown.
I dunno, lets see how this works out in another week or two.
Hayward still has a long ways to go compared to his highlight reels in Utah.
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Congrats on the win last night (and Dipo made a HUGE shot) but I have to say I know the Celtics problem.......
I feel bad for Kyrie since if not for his late 3's they aren't even in the game and he missed a layup he always makes. He was in foul trouble most of the game so his minutes were cut. I feel sorry for him since they all call him the team leader and he took blame for the entire loss after the game due to the layup and foul issues. He always takes blame now for any loss.
But thats not what I think is the problem with Boston.
Something to keep an eye on and I was afraid of this.
Gordon Hayward. Does. Not. Fit.
At least right now.
He was a train wreck in this game.
The C's have 3 high quality wings with Tatum/Brown/Hayward and it's crowded and they have zero chemistry with Hayward being not even CLOSE to 100%.
We'll see how this goes and if it works as the season moves on (it's only early November) but I kinda wonder if Gordon should be moved to the bench and if Brad would dare even do that since they have such a strong history.
Further proof of this not working is when Jaylen Brown missed the Bucks game a few nights ago, Hayward had his best game. When Hayward missed the Knicks game a few weeks ago, Tatum had his best game.
Making these wings fit together in a starting lineup and getting Hayward back into this is proving more difficult I think then most imagined......
But we'll see how it swings out with time.
Still have high hopes for the C's later this season, but it looks really crowded with people who want the ball and you got to give Kyrie his shots regardless.
If the C's didn't have the #1 D again, they would not always be in these games since the offense is really topsy turvy.
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Husband agrees with you, he thinks the Lakers can be A LOT better then I think. So I am being outnumbered here. Lakers might be good. That was actually our conversation this morning too during breakfast, Lakers analysis......
The thing is with Boston fans they hate the Lakers as much as they hate the Yankees. Okay maybe not as much, Yankees top everything. But Celtics/Lakers is a historical rivalry too.
Oh and yeah Jimmy Butler went ape butt nuts at practice yesterday. Y'all don't want him.
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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I am pretty high on the Lakers. Kuzma and Ingram both look legit now. LeBron is still LeBron. To me they could definitely get the 3rd Seed. Jazz and Thunder are Good but aren't anything special. The Raptors to me are a huge question mark, nobody knows how good Leonard will be? Yeah I think in the end the Warriors will get 1 more. After that we may start seeing the Celtics/Lakers again in the Finals if the Lakers land 1 more SuperStar next summer in Free Agency. Pacers will be good but not sure how far they will go?
I wish I was as high on you with the Lakers.
I just sometimes scratch my head Lebron went there unless it was for better weather and to make the family happy. It's a strange strange group there. I admit Ingram and Kuzma are good though.
My feelings on the Warriors is this and I will talk about it with you later in June if it happens.
IF we do get Warriors/Celtics.....and if the series goes 6/7. I am taking Boston to steal it. And then Durant I could even see joining up with Lebron since those two are close. I swear, I got this strange vision in my head of Durant on the Lakers that I keep thinking about. I literally can't get it out of my head that Kevin Durant is headed to the Lakers next year.
Raptors scare me but who the hell is their new coach anyway. Nick Nurse? Okay.......
I got to get to bed but I leave you all with this if you miss Lance.
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Regardless, I am still picking Celtics/Warriors too and been feeling it for a while. As long as they got Irving to make those big shots they need in the end. I can't trust those others at times to come through with their chucking.
Just hope Hayward can become his old self again sometime this season. And that guy over thinks and is soooo serious. He needs to loosen up.
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1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Basketball season is upon us so here is what I think will happen in the 2019 Season.
-My Top 4 Seeds in the Eastern Conference will be:
1. Celtics (my projected record = 60-22)
2. Raptors (my projected record = 56-26), if Leonard stays healthy they will probably finish 2nd in the Conference. If he doesn't then they are screwed.
3. Sixers (my projected record = 54-28)
4. Pacers (my projected record = 51-31), I see us finishing 4th and winning 1 Playoff series but if Leonard can't stay healthy we may finish 3rd and stay out of the Celtics bracket. That would wreck the Raptors season. If that happens we could make the ECFinals. Sixers are young and could choke in the Playoffs.
-I have the Celtics winning the Eastern Conference
-My Top 4 Seeds in the Western Conference will be:
1. Warriors (my projected record = 61-21)
2. Rockets (my projected record = 58-24)
3. Lakers (my projected record = 52-30)
4. Jazz (my projected record = 51-31)
4T with the Jazz. Thunder (my projected record = 51-31)
-I have the Warriors winning the Western Conference
-I have the Warriors 3-Peating and winning the World Championship over the Celtics in 7 games (4-3)
My Top 5 players of all-time still remain:
1. Michael Jordan
2. Magic Johnson
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. LeBron is now 4th on my list after last season
5. Wilt Chamberlain
DAMN, you got those Lakers doing better then I thought. I am truly not that high on that team around Lebron right now, but I think Lebron will as usual make them all better and go on a big MVP run. I just got to see more of the Lakers with Lebron to believe it? I can't doubt Lebron though.
Pacers might be able to move up in standings but it's tough to say? The east is so confusing!!!!! It's going to be a blast though with Lebron finally gone.
I think it will be a tough postseason, more teams will believe now.
I will say this about Boston, Brad Stevens has literally lit up the Celtics in the last few weeks due to lousy showings in preseason and telling them they aren't as good as they think they are. And Marcus Smart and JR Smith almost killed each other in preseason. Most of this was not directed at Irving since he rested the final two preseason games and Hayward didn't play the last one either.
I am going to Celtics/Sixers next week and I am still nervous over Gordon Hayward. He still is not completely there yet. He admits his mind is not there yet, so much to get comfortable with. He has not found his shot yet.
Gordon is going to make me nervous for a while I think.......
Kyrie though, Kyrie looks AMAZING.
I mean that infection he had in his knee must have been serious since he even looks healthier in his face. He's got the mini fro going on now and committed long term to the Celtics recently in public, so he seems to be more mature this year and happier. I am expecting a big big year from Irving, just worried about Gordon...but it might take longer there. I am also worried about a sophomore slump for Jayson Tatum.
Believe it or not, my husband has a Celtics friend who has the Pacers finishing second in the east.
Raptors though will be fascinating since Kawhi Leonard if he gives a crap and tries hard is an absolute beast. Problem is, I still can't always trust Toronto. But I won't be suprised if the Celtics lose in Toronto next week in game 2. I think Boston wins over Philly.
Kawhi Leonard though, he could be a potential problem....we'll see. Weird weird dude though.
Philly remains to be seen too since Ben Simmons still can't shoot well. Will be interesting if Boston uses the same game postseason plan vs. them and tosses Baynes on Embiid and Smart on Simmons.
As for the Warriors, they are golden as usual and perfect. But will FA distractions hit them? Durant has not committed.....I think Klay said he wants to stay.
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I am in the minority on this too, but I didn't like it. My gut said it was the wrong move at the time and still does. I get the logic of going for it but it was bad timing.
I don't like handing a division rival a win, especially at home when fan interest likely isn't as high as it used to be either.
Also, the Texans didn't even deserve a nice fat win after letting the Colts come back that way in the game. And the Colts IMO deserved to come out of the game with "something" after a big comeback and a big game by Luck.
I don't know, it just felt a bit rushed and desperate to me at the time. If it was a team like the Pats you give them the benefit of the doubt, they have a history to fall back on. This Colts team does not get that benefit of the doubt yet.
Lastly I also hate the OT rules too. And it is what it is now......we took the loss.
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Just now, buffalo34 said:
Could be referring to his Packers, who do play the Bills next week.
And who the heck thinks they can beat the Bills now? Good win today!
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7 minutes ago, BloodyChamp said:
On to Bufallo, and 11-5 I'm sure.
My favorite part was the INT. That was straight out of Favre's frustration heave collection. I don't think I've ever seen Brady just heave 1 knowing it would probably get INT'd, while thinking that it didn't matter in the long run.
Pats got the Dolphins next. Then Colts.
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22 minutes ago, Gramz said:
It's a bizarre season so far, throughout the league.
I been watching casually, not really hardcore into it yet this year.
The team who has the vibes and looks so far overall the most I like is the Rams.
. I would love to be able to pick up a player like Korver, a guy who can give you 4 or 5 3's on any given night.
. We got punked by the REFS royally in that game and everyone knows it. It cost us a Playoff series.
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MY GOD. Yep this dude.
Basically he was shooting like Reggie Miller last night, especially in the first half.
I will say Gordon Hayward is a great free throw shooter though, I really do trust him at the line. The free throws are smooth and sharp.