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4 hours ago, Moosejawcolt said:
This draft is loaded with wr's. Why would you draft one at 15 when you can probably get a good one with your 2nd pick? You draft a 2nd round corner and there is quite a drop off and you are looking at primarily zone corners. Man corners go fast. Why do you think the Chiefs won the Superbowl. Very good D line with a franchise DT. Franchise Qb, average wr's and elite to very good corner play.
The Chiefs also had the best TE in the game. That makes up for the avg. WR corps.
Back to the draft: I don’t disagree with your theory about this being a deep WR draft and a shallow one for D-line. My hope: Latu or Brian Thomas Jr. BTJ may prove to be just as good as the top 3, and is only available BECAUSE this is such a deep WR draft! In a normal year, BTJ goes much higher. And Latu could be the pass rushing demon the Colts lack. His injury history opens the door for a slide to pick 15. Either one of these guys in the first round and I’m thrilled for the Colts.
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1 hour ago, Moosejawcolt said:
I think the top teams in the playoff proved one thing. Franchise qb and solid lines sprinkled in with good wr play but not elite. Plus, I think you have to give Richardson a year with these guys to find out if it was qb play why they were not hitting their potential or they suck lol. Do Pierce and the TE's break out with Richardson? One thing we do know is that the D lacks any playmakers except for an aging DT. I think the term WR1 is vastly overused. To be honest, there might be only a few true #1 wr's in the league who are worthy of that label. I am thinking Jefferson, Hill, Chase etc. I think there are a lot of teams who have a couple wr twos on their team and there is nothing wrong with that. Look at Houston. They had Collins and Dell to take the top off. No true number one but they each had their role. Collins works the inside and Dell takes the top off. Diggs is no longer a #1, so in reality, Houston will probably be show casing 3 number 2 receivers.
Ok. I can agree that a couple of top “WR2s” can get the job done in some cases. And I don’t disagree that the D needs upgrading. Which is why I suggested that CB and a Pass Rusher were also needed.
But my vision of a WR 1 is one who can take the top off the opposing D with speed and great route running. That guy may be there for the Colts at 15 (Thomas Jr.) or perhaps later if a slight trade down occurs ( Adonai Mitchell). If he is, I’m hoping he’s their #1 pick.-
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26 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:
We have to many holes to fill and wr is something you draft later when you have a complete team. If i remember correctly if you look at the top teams in the playoff, I would argue that they were not receiver driven. It is like all this talk about the wrs at the top of the draft. I am drafting that LT at 4 if I am Arizona, if they don't move down, instead of Harrison and/or Nabors. A dominant LT to me is more valuable than an elite wr who needs the ball to make plays. Thats just me. These receivers come to a 2nd contract and are now wanting 30 million. It is like Minny with Jefferson. I would dangle him to Arizona to trade for their number 4. They have Murray signed and need to justify that joke of a contract. Then Minny can grab their qb of the future. They still have another first round pick. I really dont get the love of signing these wrs to crzy money. They are the only position in football, I would argue, that is totally dependent on the qb
I disagree Moose. You have to have a dynamic passing attack today. Of course that starts with the QB, but having a WR1 is critical too, and in my book Pitt is one of the best WR2s in the business. The Colts need a WR1; another pass rusher; and another top CB. So if they stay at 15 or trade down slightly to get another high Day 2 pick, one of those positions should be the #1 choice.
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Thanks for doing this. I think with a trade down a WR is very likely the first pick, and Mitchell is an outstanding choice at that point. Interesting draft that made me look a few people up again. Nice work.
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4 hours ago, Moosejawcolt said:On 3/19/2024 at 1:18 PM, Hoose said:
I'd be shocked if we trade down. There is pressure on Ballard to add some playmakers. I think this is the year where he could actually move up if a guy slips out of the top ten because of other teams needs and there appear to be a lot of blue chid players at the top of the draft and teams will always be qb needy at the top of draft
I can see why you’d argue against a trade down. I was working on the premise that the players they wanted were taken, and they felt they could get comparable value later in the first….. and then scoop up two extra thirds.
But if a guy they want is there at 15, I would expect them to pick him.
What I don’t see is a trade up. It willcost too much, and Ballard is placing a lot of eggs in this draft’s basket. He needs more high picks, not less.
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7 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
OK…. First, I don’t think you read my post very closely. Toward the bottom I literally wrote if Ballard and AR don’t have success then CB will likely be fired in 1-3 years.
Your response was if the Colts don’t have a good year this year, Ballard could lose his job sooner than I think. Sooner than one year? I think Irsay is unpredictable, and it could happen next January. Or Jan of 26 or beyond.
As to the roster, there are a lot of young players on this roster right now that should get better this year and next. Also, there is the matter of the draft in 3 weeks. And then the FA and draft in 25 and 26.
You want answers now when many of the answers won’t come for 1-3 years.
As to the quality of the roster, there’s a difference of opinion in the community. There’s a group that thinks the roster is poor and that’s why the Colts have struggled for years. And there’s another group here who believe the roster is actually pretty good, but as Ballard noted at his season ending press conference, we’ve struggled because he hasn’t gotten the QB right. And if we had, the Colts might be viewed very differently. Clearly, I’m in that camp.
And that’s why we are in the Make or Break phase of Ballard’s career. Either he and AR have success in the next few years or Ballard’s time with the Colts could end in the next 1-3 years.
Hope that clarifies.
I’m not taking issue with your points, which are well made. I just think Ballard’s timeline may not be tied to AR’s performance alone. Because the kid needs more talent around him. And if that talent shows itself to be as insufficient as I think it currently is, you’ve got to have issues with the guy choosing that talent.
I do hope that (1) the current crop of youngsters gets dramatically better, and (2) that this draft is a game changer. I’m just not very confident about either one.
Hope I’m wrong.
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12 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
I recently saw an interview with Ballard that was done by this website. Only I didn’t see it on this website, I happen to see it on YouTube. And there, you can leave comments. And the comments there were so hateful, I doubt they would have been allowed had they been made here. The mods would’ve deleted them and then suspended the posters. My point is, people who leave comments like that are often the extreme part of a fan base. That’s why many websites don’t have comment sections anymore. Takes up too much bandwidth and produces almost zero light, but tons of heat (read anger).
As for why I support Ballard, that’s a horse that has been beaten to death. I have no problem with those who do not like Ballard. But I think we’re now in the key moment of his career. I think the vast majority here believe he’s tied to Richardson. If AR works out, and the Colts have success, then Ballard stays. If he doesn’t then Ballard will eventually be fired. And that will happen in the next 1-3 years. It’s all about AR and how much success he and Ballard can bring to the Colts in the near future.
I agree with this, but it also begs the question of when Ballard will put the talent around AR that he will need to succeed. Because right now, management is betting it all on improvement of the current crop of players. And that feels like a bad gamble. The secondary has little experience and Ballard doesn’t appear like he’s inclined to change that. Even though he acknowledged the need for serious improvement there at the end of last season. There are no explosive WRs on the roster at the moment. Nor a proven force at TE. Even though Ballard noted the need to improve in that area.
No one hopes more than me that Woods and Ogletree and Pierce will somehow emerge as big time playmakers. But don’t hold your breath.This draft will be critical in the effort to improve the team around AR. If the Colts are still treading water at the end of this season, Ballard’s leash could get yanked sooner than you may think possible.
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6 hours ago, DougDew said:
Bowers likely doesn't get past NYJ. And will probably flourish with Rodgers.
I don’t see the Jets picking Bowers. They just signed Mike Williams and now have some decent receiving depth. What they don’t have is a good O-line. There will
be some outstanding OT’s available with the 10th pick. They need to protect Rogers to go anywhere this year, and a plug and play OT will be there for them. Makes too much sense.
So I’m with those who believe Bowers has a decent chance to be there at 15 for the Colts. It should prove to be an unusually good spot (more so than other years)to get a quality starter or trade down for more draft gold. The Colts are in a good drafting situation right now. -
14 minutes ago, w87r said:
Draft can't help our veteran Safety need though.
Very true. Especially in a draft where the safety class appears to be pretty weak. Which is why they will make a move before the draft to get an upgrade. Hopefully Simmons.
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13 minutes ago, w87r said:
Really though, how many different positions are in play at #15? No particular order.
WR
CB
DE
DT
TE
These would be my picks at 15. But should Ballard decide to trade down from 15, especially if into the mid to high 20s, could a LB be in play? A long armed LB who can hit and cover is a genuine need.
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11 minutes ago, stitches said:
That's a very good question and something I've been contemplating and something that has been on my mind for a while when looking at the DEs in this draft. That's part of the reason for me to take a deeper look at Dallas Turner who has striking similarities with Hunter both physically(light but super long DE) and athletically (super fast and explosive)... IMO people here underestimate the possibility we draft a DE high in the draft.
It’s a very real possibility. The question is, could Turner last to 15? Because I don’t see Ballard trading up. Not with the pressure he is putting on this draft to produce multiple hits.
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3 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
Regarding moving down a little and getting an extra 2, I don’t think that’s at all possible. Getting an extra 2 from trading down from 15 would require a trade down into the 2nd round.
Trading down a little from 15 would likely only get you a 4. If you’re extremely lucky, maybe a 3.
Historically, this trade has always stuck with me. Dallas was picking 18 and traded down 13 spots to pick 31 and only received a 3. So if doing that only got Dallas a 3, it’s hard to see the Colts moving down a little (less than 5 spots) and getting a 2.
You may be right. But the draft pick value chart often goes out the door with first round picks. Example: the Colts’ trade with the Jets ( small move down) that netted them Nelson plus several other high picks if I recall.
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1 hour ago, Superman said:
mean, do you like AD Mitchell? If the Colts traded down and came away with him later in the first, what's the problem
Mitchell has gotten more interesting the more I’ve studied him. He could be special. I’ve been on the Thomas,Jr. bandwagon but if the Colts could nab an extra 2 for a slight move down and get Mitchell? Count me in.
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The amazing depth at CB and WR this year suggests that you CAN get an elite player at 15 if you go with one of those positions. My guess is the Colts don’t trade down and instead grab a difference maker.
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4 minutes ago, DougDew said:
Well, to help narrow down who y'all think will be taken at 15.....let's think about which position is the weakest on the team?
S....I doubt we take one at 15
CB....methinks Ballard thinks there is talent there. Drafting more talent might just cause a bottle neck while other positions might languish.
EDGE... Should Paye be playing RDE, or LDE? Is Ebukam long term, or stop gap, rotational?
WR...Should AP be a #2, or a #4 and first backup to both starting outside WRs?
TE (Bowers only option at 15)....Like Corner, is there talent there, or are there too many of the same guys fighting for PT?
I think you answered your question. CB, PASS RUSH or WR.
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Ballard isn’t trading up. As much as I want them to draft Brian Thomas Jr., I can definitely see them trading out of 15 with a slight move down and getting another Day 2 pick. Which is why scouting all the potential WRs available in the second round makes sense.
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13 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:
Ballard has a MO. There is no backup plan.
Chloe, you need to calm way down. Sneed was definitely an upgrade but there is a lot of time left in FA and some good players out there who can improve the team.
Let’s see how the rest of the FA period plays out before going jihad on Ballard.
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30 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:
I done follow draft very much except for some big names. Are there any CB that could be there at 46 so colts could go offense at 15. Just makes me sick we might pass on an elite pass catcher.
Cam Hart comes to mind. Max Melton too, just to name a couple.
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2 hours ago, KB said:
I figured DT would be off the board after acquiring Davis. Boyd would be a good one to develop if he can be had in rd 5 or 6.
Agree. He’d be a great developmental player. He has promise.
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12 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
Since you asked the question, I’ll respond. Why should YardBarker be marginalized?
Because lots of these minor fringe “media websites” are run by very young people who I’d bet have not taken a journalism class. Are too young to know much history about either the team or the person they’re covering. So they might be angry or outraged at what Ballard is doing but may not know that this is somewhat typical for CB. So there’s no context. And often these are people who seem to value opinion over facts.
A lot of these websites — not just yard barker — follow a click bait mentality, so the goal is to have a hot take because hot takes get reactions. ESPN does a lot of this too, and it’s the part of ESPN that I dislike most because too many hot takes are nonsense.
I think I’ve written enough to give you an idea. I wouldn’t 100 percent discount or marginalize them, but I’d develop a very good filter to separate the occasional good from the very often bad.
That’s my view.
This is a good take of the social media landscape out there. But there is no question that the Colts are still in need at their biggest weaknesses: DB, pass rush and WR. The draft will help, over time, but not immediately.
For ex., Ballard cannot just sit out the rest of FA and not deal with the safety mess. The Colts FS situation is abysmal. So I expect him to make a move there.
But the rest of the division has improved while the Colts are treading water, so Yardbarker isn’t woofing up the wrong tree.
Fingers crossed that there are some good moves to come pre draft.
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58 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
2 words, Justin Simmons. Ballard's last chance to make a statement. He just turned 30 so still young enough and has made 2nd team all-pro 4 times.
Amen brother.
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I have to agree with keeping Kelly. Don’t mess with a good thing. They DO need a center fielder though. Simmons would be my choice.
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Thought I’d take a shot at this.
The Colts make one trade after several targets go off the board before pick 15.
They deal with Arizona, trading Picks 15 and 151 for picks 27, 66 and 90, giving them three 3rd round picks( incl. their own). Gives them 5 picks in the top 90.
Pick 27: Cooper DeJean, CB/S, IowaPick 46: Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan
Pick 66: Cam Hart, CB, N. Dame
Pick 82: Marshawn Kneeland, DE, W. Mich.
Pick 90: Mason McCormick, G, S. Dak. St.
RD 4 : James Williams, LB, MiamiRD 6 : Kristian Boyd, DT, N. Iowa
RD 7 : Isaiah Davis, RB, S. Dak. St.
Thoughts:
1. I think Cooper D. will be a stud, likely moving to FS and giving the Colts a solid future at the position. Just a pure, uber-talented football player.
2. Roman Wilson is probably a first round pick in any normal NFL draft. This one just happens to be amazingly stacked at WR.
3. Hart, Kneeland and McCormick can contribute their first year and are future starters, as is Williams.
4. Boyd and Davis are solid depth.
5. I can certainly see the Colts grabbing a block first TE later in the draft as a replacement for MAC.-
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1 hour ago, Goatface Killah said:
Hows he gonna make our pass rush special sharing snaps with Ebukam, Paye, Lewis, Odeyingbo?
He is a situational rusher. He is a good one, but thats all he is. And he would be very redundant with Paye and Ebukam here.
Because his sack and QB hit rate is off the charts. Sign him and you don’t sign Lewis? Let’s not kid ourselves. The Colts’ pass rush late in games was non existent. They need more talent there and will have to address it one way or another. This was a rare opportunity to nab a rising talent while still affordable.
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Colts have the 15th pick in the draft. (MERGE)
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I agree. In a normal draft that doesn’t have such a deep group of top WRs, BTJ and Mitchell would be picked much higher in the first round. They are both outstanding prospects. Which is why you can get a great receiver by waiting and not making a desperate trade up. I don’t see Ballard making such a move. If anything, he trades down slightly in the first round and gets another decent Day 2 pick. But that said, either BTJ or Mitchell would be terrific additions to the Colts.