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Was Eric Decker and Demaryius Thomas looked at as elite receivers 2 years ago when Tim Tebow was throwing them the ball?
Well to be fair it was Thomas 2nd yr, dealing with injuries, as he did the year before. He was a 1st rd pick.
And yes, Decker did fairly excellent year all things considered. It was his 2nd year, and he was catching passes from 2 QBs who havent started a game in 2 years.
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As it stands now, it seems like Peyton has the MVP locked up. But what will it take to be ripped away from him? Who are some of the guys who can catch him? Would Peyton sitting the final 2 games endanger his chances?
Could Brees rip it away finishing 2nd in the NFC? Could Calvin Johnson finally get one if he continues his pace? Could Brady sneak in after a slow start, with a surging Patriots team?
Can anything take it away from him?
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I've never agreed that being the first at something makes you the greatest.
The answer is TonyG.
If you believe Rice to be the goat then you have to believe its Tony.
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The guy has played 186 games.
One day bitter Colts fans will finally give the guy some credit, and quit crediting everyone but him. One day.
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at least he is wanting to earn that ridiculous contract he signed......
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>counting wins as a QB statistic
lulz
Not entirely.
Merely pointing out those wins are with entirely different personal, over a decades worth of time. The sample size is fairly large, with an infinite # of personnel differences....
If you can't count wins for a QB, counting anything a QB does is pointless.....How can you not count wins, but count stats? How can you not count wins, but count coaches? How can you count stats, but not wins?
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Over a decades worth of time. With different types of teams, different teams altogether in Peytons instance, different defenses, different O Cords/D Cords, different STs etc etc, we have a pretty clear idea how this is played out....
There have been 3 consistent people. Peyton, Brady, Belicheck.
The simple facts are:
Brady has higher win %, better in cold/outside games, been to and won more SBs, currently (prob not much longer) has the TD record, has 16-0 season, and now has a 10-4 'head to head' record vs Peyton led teams, and the 2 are neck and neck in per game statistics...
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I dont care about injuries. 3 of the last 4 of the teams we have played lost there QB, the most important person, and they torched us.....
We have given up 162pts (or a little over 32pts a game) to Kellen Clemens, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Case Keenum, Carson Palmer, and Peyton Manning.....One of these is not like the others....
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Peyton didn't look like a Super Bowl winning QB in that game....
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Is this gonna be a classic Bill B. overthinking?
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"No you take this one Peyton" -Tom
"No thanks Tom, you have it" - Peyton
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You know you'll get it...too..Trav!!
Never fails, refs always screw and ruin a win for *insert your team here*....
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Im just waiting for the "refs cost us the game"...regardless of who gets the L...
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Has Peyton attempted a pass over 10yds?
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As someone who was not a fan of Arians.....I'd really like to have him back......
I guess the grass isnt always greener....
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Good stuff
Rice will always be the GoAT to everyone. And I am a Moss guy, and will defend him every chance I get.
That being said, Calvin Johnson is working his way into the conversation. The fact that it is even a conversation is something special.
Detroit has it figured out. They realize "Hey this is the most talented guy on the field, we have to throw it to him atleast 15x a game"....regardless of matchups, or how the game is going Calvin gets his. And not every team does that with the best player on the field.
Calvin- no less than 8 targets in a game...Averages 12 targets a game
Dez- 3 games of less than 8...8 targets on average
Demaryius 3 games less than 8....9 targets on average
AJ Green- 2 games less than 8....11 targets on average
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Cant blame them. We are a stroke, and an incompetent coach (and KR) away from being blown out these last 3 games.
Mathieu on Hilton is gonna be interesting to watch tho.
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Full list
Lookin at that list. I dont know that either guy makes it in.
I see Strahan, Eddie, and Taglibue pretty much are locks.....Then the typical WR log jam....Then guys like Jones/Shields/Brooks....
Its gonna be a tight race.
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Over a decade of mediocrity (or worse) of fan support. Team finally does well, and the fans begin to have expectations, then the team completely implodes, and the fans are upset. And rightfully so.
Maybe the Texan players should keep there mouths shut and be thankful they have fans in the first place. With the poo they are putting on the field this yr they should be more worried about themselves, than addressing the fans....
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Todays NFL.
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Calvin with another MONSTER performance of 179yds.. This guy is just unreal.
59rec/1,083yds/11TDs in EIGHT games......This guy is just incredible.
Say what you want about him v Rice. Raw #s, different eras, QBs/Teams etc.
But my personal preference is to compare them to the players of the era. Which is why I feel Don Hutson is the greatest of all time.
That being said, first 7 seasons, not listing outside top 10
JR- Yards 1st, 2nd, 2nd 1st, 1st, 3rd
CJ- Yards 5th 9th 1st 1st
JR-Rec 2nd, 4th, 5th, 1st, 7th
CJ-Rec 4th, 1st
JR-TDs 1st 1st 5th 1st 1st 1st
CJ- TDs 1st, 2nd, 2nd
JR Totals: 526rec/9072yds/93TDs....in 108 games
CJ Totals: 547rec/8919/yds/65TDs...in 101 games
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So. All 5 plays they scored TDs on....
Great job Sorgi.
"If the Rams hadnt scored, I really think the Colts woulda won this game"
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This story has been out what, a week? 2 weeks now? And all this info is just now coming out.
This seems like another 'rush to judgement' media hyperstorm.
There is way to much to this story, and way to many facts for them to have reported when they reported.
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Luck is like Dillinger...
"They've got to guard all the banks all the time..
..."I can rob any bank any time"
As a somewhat Dillinger history buff, I love the reference.
Fun fact. Dillinger would rob police stations! He'd go in at night, lock up the guard, then steal guns ammo and bullet proof vests. Awesome. Talk about a booooold move.
Manning MVP. Locked In?
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Is he having an 'off' year? Sure. He's not a world beater like say Calvin or AJ, but the guy is a pretty solid WR, and alot of teams would be thrilled to have him as a 2, some even as a 1, and this is a guy who is 3rd, or arguably 4th on his own team. I imagine it is hard for him to find a groove this year.
As for DT, I think your selling this guy short. He is a fantastic WR, in line with a guy like Dez, who can score at any moment. How many screens has he taken to the house this year? 3 4? That in itself is pretty amazing.
It just seems like your willing to throw a pretty awesome offensive team under the bus in order to prop up Manning, which is something Manning (and Colts) fans have done for YEARS, and frankly it is not needed. Manning can get by on his own amazing merits. There is zero need to degrade his teammates in an effort to make him look even better, not only is it simply incorrect, but its fairly ignorant.