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46 minutes ago, WoolMagnet said:
This makes no sense.
like it or not, Hoyer and Kelly are worse than our chances with JB. They just are.
I don't believe it. My 16 y/o daughter could produce exactly this much offense and she weighs 85 pounds and knows nothing about football. IT IS TIME TO REMOVE JB. Hoyer at least has up and down games over his career. Kelly we have yet to see so nobody know crappy or good he can be. This franchise is falling into the Bengals level. We can't offense, we can't defense and our special teams is anything but special. Quite honestly, its starting to get to the point where the noise asking whether Reich is the right leader are going to start getting louder. The way they handled this Vinny issue and now a really poor QB in JB handling. Nah, its time to see anyone else besides JB at this time. Irsay is risking losing a portion of the fanbase who has hung around and was enthusiastic with Reich but staying the course when the plane is in a straight nose dive thinking the plane will automatically correct itself is bad.
You keep holding the faith little buddy, I commend you for it.
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8 minutes ago, MB-ColtsFan said:
No, no, no, man. Don't go low like that. It's just plain wrong to hope a player gets carted off.
No player deserves that.
I get it, I really do but when the coaching staff can’t remove the player that’s hurting the team, I don’t know what can be done. I don’t really want any harm to come to JB honestly, I just want him off the field. At this rate, we should have kept Vinny and ran the all garbage team. I’m not too sure what’s going on behind the scenes and decision making but if Reich is going to be so stubborn as to keep playing below avg talent here, why will people keep watching the product? This is just pitiful. I didn’t feel this frustrated during the suck for Luck year because we knew the reason to play crap. This year, we can’t seem to find the logic into playing bad players, whether injuries or talent, JB and Vinny have cost the team this season and our coaches won’t admit they have a problem.
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7 minutes ago, Colts_Fan12 said:
damn I think the dude sucks really bad but this is wrong
What’s it going to take to have the coaches do something else because JB is sucking the big one again and the coaches haven’t the stones to remove a poorly performing QB. JB can’t get out of his own way. I’d probably blitz the whole team every snap, it’s not like JB gonna hit anyone in space. God this is as pitiful as we’ve seen since Curtis Painter. There are no words and they look worse every game since 5-2
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Just now, GoColts8818 said:
You really want to see Hoyer because Kelly isn’t active.
Yes, I do and then maybe next week we at least would possibly get to see Kelly active. I’m so glad I’ve not renewed those season tickets last season, this season would have put me over the edge. The colts are killing their fan base.
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5 minutes ago, Btown_Colt said:
Oh no...let’s let everyone get a good taste of JB so they can finally see the light. It looks like a NFL QB VS a high school QB tonight.
I am sadly hoping JB gets hurt and carted off. He is killing this team. Killing it.
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Poll: is there 1 person on this Colts forum who thinks if Tom Brady played like this for the Pats that BB wouldn’t pull him?
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hell yes he would. This is pathetic coaching. Eat that sword coach Reich, eat the whole thing.
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Just now, Fisticuffs111 said:
When teams sell out, which they’ve all been doing recently, Mack’s gonna struggle. Teams just don’t respect the pass.
Would you respect JB and his passes? I wouldn’t.
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I wonder if we can just concede and pack up.
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2 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:
There was a freakin 10+ yard gap from our lb/cb to our safeties.
“Miscommunication “ again again again. That’s what we will hear. Some things to clean up. Let’s have JB throw 5 yards over everyone’s head this series again too. Trash, all of them.
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How do these hacks on this team cash their paychecks. These fools are terrible at their jobs up and down the 53 and the coaches are either putting poor plans, poor teaching or have already checked out. This looks like the play of an expansion team. I want Jeff George teams back
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6 hours ago, Jared Cisneros said:
I honestly have no problem trading up for Burrow if we lose out (1st this year and next year). Eli is worthless and certainly wouldn't start over Burrow though.
Eli would definitely be a better option than JB as he has currently played. He can see the field anyway. I’d also be fine trading up to get QB1 but I really doubt Cincy would pass on what’s sure to be as qualified as Luck type was coming out. But you wouldn’t do both things as I don’t think 1. Eli would like to relocate his family here just for a mentoring role and 2. Burrows isn’t getting picked #1 to sit and watch so you don’t need 2 QB’s that think they should be your starter.
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8 hours ago, Four2itus said:
As always, value is the big key when the Colts draft this upcoming year. So....assuming that they stay with their allotted pick....consider the entire team/player age/player contracts/etc. What are the top four position needs? I'll start:
1) OT
2) WR
3) D line
4) CB
QB, DT, OT/G depth
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4 minutes ago, Coffeedrinker said:
I agree that I would challenge that as well. Also, I didn't write it, the SI author did.
I just picked out this area of the quote in the post itself. Wasn’t picking on you, you’re just the quoted person it attached to I guess.
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1 hour ago, Coffeedrinker said:
At this point in his career, Brissett is a high-end game manager. He has the potential to develop into much more. Since the last time we saw him, he's become a faster processor. The arm talent, underrated touch and functional mobility aren't going anywhere.
I’d 100% challenge this sentence. I’ve not seen much, if any improvements in processing from JB from the 2017 year up till this last game. In fact, it could be worse now than the 2017 season. Either way, processing is certainly his worst trait and I don’t think bodes well for a starting QB in the NfL. If only he could get the defenses to respect his game just as an average starter, the game could open up so much more.
maybe our offense should just become the Army-Navy game style. Run run run run run.
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16 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
In the 5 years I have been here I think JB has got more criticism in here than any other player or coach. I thought Grigson and Pagano got a lot but JB has them blown away. JB even blows away Trent Richardson
. What is funny is JB isn't even that bad, he may not be a franchise QB but is average at worse.
You seem stuck on a false belief in JB being above average and you don’t seem willing to believe it when others point out that even with all his weapons healthy, JB was not performing well at all. He just isn’t an average QB, he just isn’t. He will never carry a team to wins, he needs lots of help. I will also add that I don’t think his OC has helped him with schemes either. He is still trying to fit him into the Luck Passing scheme. It’s not good for JB though.
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3 hours ago, stitches said:
No, this is not what I'm saying. People make mistakes, people grow up all the time. It's a completely different question whether you are willing to trust your multibillion franchise with a face of the franchise who has a history of poor decisions both in college and in the NFL. You cannot and should not make the biggest decisions for your franchise with Chad Kelly being any sort of consideration into those decision. You cannot go into next season with Chad Kelly as your presumptive starting QB. This is insanity. If you like a QB in the draft you do NOT pass on him because you have Chad Kelly on the roster. If you like a free agent QB as a starter, you don't pass on him because you have Chad Kelly on the roster. If you like Jacoby as your starter, you don't let him go because of Chad Kelly. And this is with whatever Chad Kelly does in the last 3 games.
I don't mind us keeping him on the roster. He seems to have behaved himself so far and that's good. I don't mind him getting some starts if they've already determined Brissett is not the answer(if they have not, they should continue to start Brissett until they have their answer one way or another). But this is more with an eye to our backup QB spots than trusting him as a starter going forward. There is nothing Chad Kelly can do in the next 3 games that will make me comfortable having him as our presumptive starter and giving him even the contract that Jacoby got last year, let alone a long-term franchise QB contract.
We get it, you really dislike Chad Kelly on this team. But to your points of if there is a draft able guy the organization thinks is a potential franchise guy, you take him regardless of who is on the qb staff imho. Just short of having a Luck or Manning type guy, you absolutely don’t let potential guys make your decision. Now, unless we are getting a FA franchise QB put in front of us, I think you take a real hard look at who you have now. Maybe you take a third round guy and let him compete against CK and JB in the preseason period. Maybe Kelly has completely gotten the message and understands his actions of a privileged (relative of Jim K) doesn’t mean much if you don’t grow up fast in the nfl. Maybe he hasn’t, the team will know though. Kelly isn’t at the stage where he is going to command any contract worth note yet so you have time with him. Let’s say just for fun, Kelly pans out big time and now you have your 3rd rounder QB, who also shows solid promise. Now you have choices and you also have a potential tradeable asset. I just don’t see the downside here. We all seen Ryan Leaf and Jeff George deal with being a spoiled kid. Neither could hide it long. Eventually though, George grew up, sadly, Leaf did not. Everything in the nfl is a crapshoot, nothing is absolute. I trust the brass to make an informed decision on who to keep though. Neither of us get that burden.
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On 12/12/2019 at 9:21 AM, Coffeedrinker said:
Anthony Gordon... QB Washington State. Not the best overall QB in college this year but is, probably, the best pure passer in college football this year. A bit on the skinny side but good height, excellent arm, can make all the NFL throws, superb mechanics and quick release. Not a running QB but great movement in the pocket to extend plays, super smart, goes through his progressions well.
Numbers are inflated because of the style of offense Washington State runs but he has all the tools to do really well in the NFL.
What is this kids ability to go through progressions and does he play in a pro style offense?
JB has a lot of great qualities as a QB but dear lord he is terrible at progressions and his delivery is a bit slow. I’m not sure JB is in the right style of offense for his style though, he needs more shifty types of guys that are short area players. He isn’t the go deep, drop it in the right window or in the basket type. Is this kid? Idk who he is.
On 12/12/2019 at 4:06 PM, stitches said:For the people voting for Chad Kelly - IMO there is nothing Chad Kelly can do in the remaining 2-3 games to convince the Colts he's the answer, simply because some of the biggest questions about him are not on the field and he cannot really alleviate those concerns on a football field. He can throw for 400 a game and 10TD/0INT by the end of the year and the Colts STILL should NOT feel comfortable giving him the spot and still should be looking elsewhere. This is what you get when you've spent your whole young adult life proving you cannot be trusted - you won't be trusted. I'm not sure Chad Kelly can do anything to make the Colts forego the search of QB this coming off-season if they are not sold on Jacoby. If anything his fight is for long-term roster spot as a QB2 or QB 3. If I were a GM, there is zero chance in hell I'm giving the keys to the car to Chad Kelly no matter what he does in a couple mostly meaningless games.
I think what you are saying is that no young teenager to a young adult ever grows up, they do and if he has managed to stay clean and quiet all season, which he has seemed to do, I’d be willing to take a step into the bathwater to see if I get burned or not. Of course, Kelly would have to absolutely show me the talent on the field first for me to want to take that step. Doing it in practice against our guys doesn’t give me the same confound I would with in game play and adjustments by opposing teams. As a GM, I’d be willing to take on the risk if he has shown the ability to stay focused all year long and shown me the ability to play ball in this league in live fire. Hell, I’d maybe surprise him into a starters role this week just to see how he has been preparing himself all along. He has been placed on inactive roster every game so far, has he practiced and studied like a professional each step of the way? Would he be ready to go if we said 1 1/2 hours before the game, you’re our starter today? It could certainly be another of those milestone tests for him to see his reaction to adversity and if he has been coasting knowing he was not going to be activated or if he has truly dedicated himself to the playbook and his limited reps in practice. I think it could either show his maturity level both good or bad and allow the team to decide if he was worth keeping on the roster or not for next year. A lot of ways this young kid can go here. I’m not as down on risk with him as you certainly are.
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2 hours ago, stitches said:
He has institutional knowledge. He's been growing within the system, he knows what's required and how Frank and the rest of the staff approaches practices and scout team. If they are happy with how he's doing his job, I see no reason to look for someone else. They kept a much worse QB like Phillip Walker as QB3 for several years for similar reasons.
Jacoby is too expensive to be a backup and probably has higher ambitions than to be a backup. And if we draft a QB high this sends pretty clear signal to him and to the rest of the team that they are looking for upgrade over Brissett and that even if the new guy is not the guy now, either him or someone else will be looked at in the future to replace Brissett as the starter. I guess I can see him staying as a backup for that one year he has on his contract but if I had to guess he would try to find a starting job elsewhere after that year expires and he won't be willing to rework his contract and take a paycut to stay.
I kind of agree about Hoyer not having much value and not being very good. There is a reason he had no team 1 week before the start of the season. It's not because he's very good.
I can agree with the first part of your statement, Kelly does bring cheap back up play with knowledge of the system. He is a better upside than Hoyer.
as for the second part, who in the nfl would give JB a starting spot based on his play this year? I can’t think of one team that needs that level of a QB as their guy. Not even Miami. I think JB has played his way out of expectations he may land a starters role anywhere after this season. Don’t see it at all. I could see a restructured contract or just an outright cut here and possible resign but I don’t see any market for JB anymore.
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30 minutes ago, stitches said:
IMO it will be either Hoyer or Brissett. Or they will trade either Hoyer or Brissett if they can. I have to check what their contract details are like but if I had to guess, there will be a team or two willing to give up like... a 4th for Brissett to be their bridge QB, but... IMO this won't happen unless the QB we draft is ready to play day 1(Wentz/Sam Bradford situation in Philly).
If we draft QB and he's ready day 1, IMO this is when there is high chance we trade Jacoby for whatever the best offer is. So we keep rookie QB starting, Hoyer QB2, Kelly practice squad/QB3.
If we draft QB and he's not ready day 1, IMO the most likely scenario is that we keep Jacoby and start him and we release or trade Hoyer, so the QB depth chart will be Jacoby QB1, rookie QB2, Kelly QB3/PS.
If we draft a QB in the first or second, that is definitely our guy, they’ve went all in to change the guard. Saying that, why would Kelly even be a thought for this team any longer? The team absolutely loves JB and I’d say they either rework his contract as a team back up guy and pay cut or they just keep him on this last year and move from there. I’d see little reason to keep Kelly under the draft of a new guy circumstance. We know JB could come in and spot a QB if injured a game or two. What service does Hoyer then provide that a coaching staff couldn’t now? I’d probably keep JB with the new guy and have a great teammate that can back up. Hoyer is a wasted spot imho. He isn’t a good QB and his value was to mentor JB in the film room and accelerate his curve. He is no longer that needed curve now and you let coaches work film study with the new one. That’s my 2 cents
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4 hours ago, CoachLite said:
Vision (seeing without looking at a particular spot) can be taught. It's too bad it isn't taught earlier because it takes 3 - 6 months to learn, longer to perfect. Find a coach or consultant that knows how - tennis, ping pong, pickleball, most racquet sports coaches know this technique.
If this is in fact a true statement, then why is it that JB still can’t perform this? It’s pretty well documented that JB can’t see half of the field during the games so I can’t imagine it’s just as simple as a 3-6 month learning curve. Idk, maybe some can pick it up like that and some can never. Which begs the question here, if it’s that simple to do, the colts have had JB since 2017. Surely we’ve tried to teach him this skill over that time. If he could t learn this for 2017 and 2018 and 2019, why did we go ahead and pay him millions more for this year? NFL isn’t charity and they would seemingly know, JB just isn’t going to be capable of picking up this skill. If not, he would clearly not be a future starter for the team, right? Idk
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21 hours ago, EastStreet said:
5 reviews below. There's some disagreement in a few areas (identified below), but overall pretty consistent. Most of these reviews came pre or early season.
Summary of Pros and Cons (5 reviews)
Pros
1. Size, mobility, athleticism
2. Extends play and capable passer while outside the pocket. Improvises very well.
3. Efficient release
4. Good pocket presence and keep eyes down field
5. Good awareness of his options/outlets
6. Has the arm talent to make any throw
7. Good touch and placement at all levels. Can zip when necessary or drop it in the bucket
8. Good vs zone Ds
9. Can get the ball out quickly and does a good job beating blitzes
10. Good at screens
11. Doesn't hesitate or second guess.
12. He appears to have a fair amount of responsibility at the LOS with regards to audible’s and protections (this is countered by another review)
Cons
1. Needs to improve field vision
2. Needs to improve processing speed and coverage reads, especially rotating deep safeties (could be scheme deficiency)
3. Can be over aggressive vertically
4. Likes to play hero ball
5. Needs to improve eye manipulation
FYI / Other
1. Doesn’t play in an offense where he makes a lot of pre-snap or post-snap adjustments (counter to above)
2. The Aggie offense involved a heavy amount of RPOs that allowed Love to become comfortable with throwing quick slants, and hitch patterns from different alignments
Marino (Draft Network)
Crabbs (Draft Network)
Tuls (Draft Network)
Reid (Draft Network)
Harris (Draft Network)
I think Tuls from draft network and his cons really scare the crap out of me. Vision is something I’d like the next guy to have possessed and used well. Without that vision and pre snap read ability trait, we will just have a newer version of Brissett. I’m glad it’s not my decision. I’d have Ulcers and drink like a fish, well, a biggger fish than my current drink status lol
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7 hours ago, EastStreet said:
Love only had 5 offers from small schools. He had interest from Boise St and USC, but never an offer. Not sure how big/good his HS (Liberty) was in Cali, but it's not one that I've heard of a lot (and I follow recruiting pretty close).
Short of the Bengals making the biggest mistake of the century, they're taking Burrow. I really don't want the injury baggage of Tua either. Give me Love or Herbert, and if either of them aren't available, I'd probably take a shot at Eason. No Fromm or Hurtz, although I think Hurtz could work in the right system.
I'm still undecided between Love and Herbert, but I think Love has the higher ceiling, and Herbert has the higher floor. Need to look at all of them closer after the season is done.
I don’t look at any recruitment items and I barely follow any college teams outside of casually watching the Irish play. Kids take a lot of my time to follow their activities and such, which is my first love. I rely on a lot of information here on the forum and once I see someone I think I may like too, I’ll go take a casual look through their profile.
so I always appreciate you guys/girls here who add content. What is it that makes you not like Fromm over a Love guy? I typically would rather take my selections over teams who play on bigger stages as those would typically be guys who were heavily recruited and demonstrated the most talent going into college. Some may not have developed or fit in but someone seen it at the onset and they went to get that guy.
It absolutely amazes me when teams hit on a TY Hilton type
player from some obscure team that 3/4 of the country never even knew existed. while not a huge school, Mahomes and Texas Tech at least was a named school that has had its share of big profile names in their sports programs, Bob Knight to name one. Texas being a god, guns and football state is also positive to get a productive player to come there over say Purdue or IU or Iowa state programs. So to have these scouts scour for every single guy from the Div 1 to Div 3 guys and hit on some higher levels and lower levels is incredible really. I just know if it were me scouting and picking, I’m hanging my hat on the bigger programs, at least for my 1-3 round guys maybe. It just seems like your boom to bust is limited much more in my head.
So what’s your trait likes or dislikes generally about the top 5 QB prospects on the board? Things like Fromm has a top tier arm and Hurbert has limitations in his arm. What Evans of apples to apples on these top 5 would you list? Appreciate your evaluations
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. What is funny is JB isn't even that bad, he may not be a franchise QB but is average at worse.
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like talent, JB doesn't have any of that.