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  1. On 4/25/2020 at 9:16 AM, aaron11 said:

    thats only something that fans say, real teams do not go by that philosophy

     

    4 other teams took backs in the second.  they still go in the first and second pretty much every year

    Fans haven’t caused the obvious devaluation of running backs over the last couple decades. 

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  2. 3 hours ago, John Hammonds said:

    And here I thought Tom Brady was good at reading defenses.

    Didn't he realize that there was No Way that the Indy fan base would ever, Ever, EVER cheer for him?  SMH


    meh, fans would cheer anyone who helped the team win. I would cheer for Brady if he was a colt....always seemed like a good guy.

  3. 4 hours ago, chad72 said:

    When Melvin Gordon is a free agent and TB doesn't have to give up draft capital to get him, I see fewer reasons for TB to go after Gurley. Gordon comes with just as much potential with probably a cheaper price tag.

     

    You could get Gordon for 3 years $36 mil. or something like that, eventually.

    Why do people think Gordon is good?

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  4. 22 hours ago, BProland85 said:

    Well I think some people, like myself, saw the very high talent that was going to be available at the 13th overall pick. Mainly guys like Jerry Jeudy, Ceedee Lamb, Derrick Brown, and Javon Kinlaw. That's why I'm a bit disappointed we couldn't have gotten Buckner for a little less. 

    But aren’t you  just hoping those guys can turn into a player like Buckner? Ballard just got the sure thing at age 26.

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  5. 10 hours ago, Scott Pennock said:

    Lets not act like Winston isn't a winner, he lost 1 game in college and that was after winning a National Championship the year before. Even Andrew pooped the bed before, including in the playoffs.....as far as free agents o he is the most talented and likely moreso than any unproven college QB that we can draft in the 2nd thru 7th rounds

    I wasn’t a believer in Winston coming out of college and I’m not a believer in him now.  Granted, he hasn’t had the best coaching in the nfl, but I always thought he came across as somewhat foolish.

  6. 7 hours ago, Scott Pennock said:

    Luck - 6 years - 171 TDs and 83 INTs

    ........thru 5 years though: 130 and 70

    Winston - 5 years - 121 TDs and 81 INTs.

     

    Not a whole lot of difference there actually. 

     

    The lasik has to help AND Ballard/Reich have already stated INTs are not always the QBs fault in regards to scouting. Mentioned Allen and Love specifically but can be used to scout a pro as well.

     

    I'd give him a 4+ year contract as is.

     Not much difference besides that whole putting a team on your back and leading them to playoff wins thing.

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  7. Here is my draft...

     

    1- DT Malcom Brown (He would play a lot of NT on passing downs, and would share time with Jones and Langford at DT/DE on running downs. I as a GM would draft plenty of help in the trenches first and foremost.)

     

    2- CB D'Joun Smith

     

    3- DE/OLB Trey Flowers (Gives us another option for the future at OLB. Can learn for a year under Mathis, and has more promise as a pass rusher than Werner.)

     

    4- S Clayton Geathers

     

    5- DT/DE Michael Bennett (Gives the Colts DL great depth now with adding Brown and Bennett.)

     

    6- RB Josh Robinson

     

    7- C/OG Andy Gallik (We are still a little uncertain who will be our C of the future, and Gallik provides another option there. He can also play OG when needed. Is from Boston College so he has the smarts.)

     

    8- OT La'el Collins (This pick is obvious. He could easily be the Colts starting RT from day 1 or at least by mid season.)

    Trey Flowers isn't much of a pass rusher. Potential to be an excellent strong side LB though.

  8. You know why he wasn't being drafted, because he threatened not to sign and it's a lot easier said than done to risk a draft pick for nothing. If he would of signed, a GM would of taken him, and it would of been earlier than the 7th. He was getting talked to by the police about a murder at the time. You can't expect Grigson or any other GM to draft him because of that and it won't be allowed here. Too big of an advantage over Grigson's draft. Everyone will do it and it will be a free hit.

    But I was saying at the time someone should take a flyer on him. Hell, John Elway threatened to play baseball. Not my fault the owners stupidly wanted to make an example of a kid for the crimes of ray rice.

    Yes, I'm stubborn.

  9. What happens if you spend the pick and it turns out Collins killed the woman?

    Then the Colts go down in history as the team that drafted a double-murderer. That's why everyone stayed away.

    With the beating the NFL has taken the past year or so, no owner wanted any part of that. All 32 teams stayed away.....

    If he is charged then release him. What's the big deal? Like the nation that has the attention span of a 6 week old puppy is gonna remember who drafted some kid from LSU. Fans get on forums and Twitter and act like they care, but they don't.

    And yes, that awful pounding the NFL has taken. A bunch of fake outrage.....as the ratings continue to be outstanding.

  10. A person of interest can go from just that to the killer in a matter of a couple hours or a couple days. It happens often. Just watch The First 48. An officer can be easily interviewing the killer and not know it at the time (Do to not having the evidence at the time of the interview) then they find the evidence they need. Next thing ya know ya just interviewed the killer

    It's more then just a simple football decision.  There is a bit of PR to worry about as well.

    If anything becomes of it you just release him.....story over.

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  11. Your point NOW looks reasonable and even obvious....     the reason is we're all operating with 20/20 hindsight.

     

    Collins was cleared by law enforcement of a double-murder.

     

    But at the time a decision had to be made,  he had not only not been cleared,  he looked like a pretty solid suspect.   There's a reason why all 32 teams passed on drafting La'el Collins.    He was radio-active and no one wanted to touch him until he was cleared.

     

    Nothing was obvious back then.....     and that's the difference.

    Sure, but why not take a flyer with a 6-7th round pick? You're virtually risking nothing for a big payoff. And as far as I know, which isn't much, wasn't he simply being interviewed by the police because he used to date the woman? It's not like there was a bloody glove or anything.

  12. Again people keep missing the point.  If he's drafted he has the ability to hold out and re-file for the 2016 draft which is EXACTLY what he threatened to do if he wasn't drafted in the 3rd round or higher.

     

    It would have been a complete waste.  

     

    The reason he wanted this is because late round picks don't make much more then UDFA's but a UDFA can have his entire salary guaranteed.  Which is exactly what he did.  

     

    http://overthecap.com/player/lael-collins/4105/

     

    He can't get guarantees like that when he's drafted.  So therefore instead of playing for only slightly more money and risking injury he threatened to hold out and go for the 2016 draft.  Because of this he was not drafted (which is what he wanted) and was able to sign a contract that guaranteed his fully salary for the next 3 years.

    Again people keep missing the point.  If he's drafted he has the ability to hold out and re-file for the 2016 draft which is EXACTLY what he threatened to do if he wasn't drafted in the 3rd round or higher.

     

    It would have been a complete waste.  

     

    The reason he wanted this is because late round picks don't make much more then UDFA's but a UDFA can have his entire salary guaranteed.  Which is exactly what he did.  

     

    http://overthecap.com/player/lael-collins/4105/

     

    He can't get guarantees like that when he's drafted.  So therefore instead of playing for only slightly more money and risking injury he threatened to hold out and go for the 2016 draft.  Because of this he was not drafted (which is what he wanted) and was able to sign a contract that guaranteed his fully salary for the next 3 years.

    I'm not missing the point. I would have still drafted him late and called his bluff.....unless he really wanted to sit out a whole yr of football. Doing that is not usually good for ones career.

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