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4 hours ago, DaColts85 said:
This is honestly laughable. As a team we would be dumb to trade him and have a massive amount of dead money. Plus getting 2 first rounders (18 and 19) and a 2nd rounder plus MAYBE a player? It would never happen regardless because what teams out there trade for a player who is hurt currently? When he is healthy either this year or next this trade garbage will be gone because he will again show why he is seen as a solid QB.
So Houston should trade JJ Watt, correct?
Houston can clone him for all i care... if he or his clone is going to be injured year after year we don't have to worry about it. I will say JJ Watt is no longer The JJ Watt that we use to play against. Injuries and time have ruined many a great player
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9 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said:
Blaming Luck for the Colts going 8-8? Really?
In part, absolutely... the highest paid QB or near the top... yep. Comes with the territory.
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13 hours ago, ColtsBlitz said:
What deal would suffice for a trade involving Luck? To me, there is no price tag on a franchise QB like him. Just my perspective on the matter.
Good question. 2 first rounder draft picks and a second...maybe a Player thrown in. Is he Phillip Rivers or Eli-Big Ben? I think the debate is still out... Elite Defenses when championships as of late... not QBs minus TB in the second half of 2016 SB. Cheers
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14 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
So, 8-8 x2 is enough to get you to trade Luck?
Really? Seriously?
No... 16-16 and missing ~20...30 games has to open the conversation to "considering" trading the player. Look I know you're a Stanford guy... been following the kid for a while, but as with all really good players in this league at some point $$$$ must be justified by production.
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3 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
Jared.....
Count how many posts you made in this thread. You're the number one poster in this thread and in NONE OF THEM, did you manage to come up with the right answer. Not once.
Andrew Luck is not getting traded for two reasons:
1. He's injured so no team is trading a huge haul for him. The three 1's and a top defensive player is what you'd get for Luck when he's healthy. Andrew Luck is not healthy now.
2. The Dead Cap Hit to the Colts would be enormous. $22.2 Mill in 2018. 12.8 Mill in 2019. It's over $6 Mill in 2020. That makes trading Luck impossible.
The combination of both of these things means all this discussion has been a waste of everyone's time. This trade is not happening. It's NEVER happening. We're not waking up to find that Luck has been traded.
Everything else is just nonsense.....
Oh, and you were wrong about Luck not getting better. He got better last year. And the NFL history shows QB's can still get better later in life. Like Randall Cunningham, like Brad Johnson. like Kurt Warner, like Rich Gannon. QB's can, and do get better with age.
Good information. But 8-8 is 8-8...x 2 years. (see both Houston Texans games 2016 for reference) Also, GMs and contracts find a way. Thanks for the input. Always appreciate your view.
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3 hours ago, NewEra said:
Log off from the forum....walk outside and throw yourself on the ground
Ok. But when they start Changing their stance from Trust the Process to Trust the Prognosis... I'll make sure to catch you when you fall... Trust fall... ha.
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2 hours ago, Thorolf said:
The last time the Colts did something like trading an injured quarterback , the quarterback went to Denver and promptly won them a Superbowl! Do we never learn?!
No he did not... he was beaten by The Seattle Seahawks Defense badly (Russell Wilson-Average QB play...) Peyton was a below average QB when he won... he won because of that elite Bronco defense.
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3 minutes ago, ColtsBlitz said:
Is this what 2-4 looks like?
No. This is what 18-20 looks like. Go Colts!
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2 hours ago, BPindy said:
If you have the rare gift of having a legitimate stud franchise QB for another 9-10 years, you absolutely do not trade him.
Is he really a rare gift? Only two QBs I would put in the category. Rodgers and Brady... How many games has he or will he have missed in his career? ~20-30... IMO that is tradeable. With his health record 9-10 years would be a stretch. Thanks for your input though... Go Colts!
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1 hour ago, richard pallo said:
Hypothetically speaking of course: Luck to the Skins for Cousins and a first in 18 and 19. They haven't wanted to pay Cousins. We have the cap space to do it and Luck is already under contract for them. I voted Hell No BTW.
6 Picks in the first two rounds over the next two years would fix a lot of issues... nice post.
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2 hours ago, RockThatBlue said:
Why should we do something that dumb? Ballard and Irsay would be chased out of town if they even thought about doing that
Because... teams win championships. Not necessarily a QB... think Seattle, Denver, Giants, Steelers...early Pats championships the QBs playing in these games were not playing elite football...the defenses were...A pretty good offensive football team with a great defense wins. We could have a great Defense...with an experienced QB in 2 years. Topic was meant to see if we still are hanging on to that Peyton Manning (A Great QB) era...of winning regular season games. Luck is Better than Eli Manning but not Ben Rothlisberger... Eli and Ben had a great defense...in their respective championship years. More recently they are having to rely on their QB play Just like all these Colts teams... not working out as well. Aaron Rodgers, Great great QB, 1 championship. Topic is meant for debate. Thanks all...Cheers
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"Trust the Prognosis"... or something like that.
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Should we consider trading Andrew Luck at this point?
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Would love Barkley in the first, but...depending on which selection we would get...might have to go CB or O-Line this year in the first. Vontaze Davis getting old...O-Line is O-Line.
RD 1: McGlinchey OT or Fitzpatrick CB or Mcfadden CB
RD 2: Jones, Nelson G or Vita Vea NT or Hubbard, Lewis Edge.
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1. Spider 2 Y Banana
2. ~30 games on IR...What can I get for Luck? Will that be enough (Picks and reduction in $$$) to start over with a top tier Defense and new gunslinger like a Sam Darnold?
3. Trust the process...
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We have our answer...jacoby brissett.
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On 8/29/2017 at 11:27 PM, NewColtsFan said:
Let's file this under..... Beating a Dead Horse!
This thread idea has been over on the Colts page for months.... there have been no shortage of threads about what to do with Phillip Dorsett.
And if you're going to post it again, let's put it on the Colts page where Colts fans can discuss it... again, and again, and again....
This is the only thread I review...
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Teams need a quick #2 or #3...
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On 8/18/2017 at 7:23 PM, SP_21 said:
That's quite the wishlist. Where do you see us drafting?
Luck misses 6 games...top 10-15
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Any of these in the first...
1. Bradley Chubb DE
2. Minkah Fitzpatrick CB
3. Mike McGlinchey OT
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Again, by drafting Tarell Basham...I believe we interrupted the Pats master plan.
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I see 10-6 or 11-5 in our future...AFC South Champs 2017.
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On 5/5/2017 at 8:10 PM, BOTT said:
I'm a hater of Pagano the way I'm a hater of crabs
You would think you would have learned the first time...Just put some butter on it you'll be fine.
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Arden key DE LSU...
Should we consider trading Andrew Luck at this point?
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If he comes back >80% IF... then 2 first rounders and a second... if we can get more, wonderful. That would give Indy 7 picks in the first two rounds in the next two drafts... fill a few holes. Cheers