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yea his arm was moving forward...
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we'll get "lucky" on this one I think. Forward motion on the arm.
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NOT IN OUR HOUSE!!!!
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Texans aren't getting home field advantage by beating us at LOS.
No way.
Go Colts!
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+1Hear, hear! This is exactly what needs to be said. Why do we have to hate RG3 to like Luck? It's ridiculous. Why do so many fans have to hate another player to validate their fandom? And in this case, it's bitterness toward a player who doesn't even matter to our team. They will meet only once every 4 years (barring a Superbowl matchup). There is no real rivalry here. If you are feeling insecure about Luck, belittling RG3 won't really make you feel any more confident. And you needn't feel that way because Luck has all of the attributes needed to be a great NFL QB.To all of the RG3 lovers on this board. Why are you here trying to start fights? That is trolling. We don't need that. If that is the only reason you are here, we don't need you.
people here hate on RG3 because they're insecure about Luck. They have a lot invested in being right since there were many disputes over first cutting manning and then whether or not to pick luck. My guess is a lot of people left these boards after the dust settled but occasionally come back with alts to troll.
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I forgot a stat for the coalition..
YDS:3223
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Amini Silatolu
Cordy Glenn
Jonathan Martin
Jeff Allen
Peter Konz
Kelechi Osemeli
were all available
Also
Orlovsky-9 TD's
Painter-6 td's
Kerry Collins-2 TD's
Luck-21 with 1 game to go
I wanted Glenn. Heck I wanted to trade the pick and gobble up as much OL/RB and DB talent as possible. So you are preaching to the choir on that one. My point is that Arians, and the weapons drafted instead of an OL was predicated by Irsay's decision. Arians simply did what he does with what was given to him. People complain that Arians throws (long) too much but relish the rookie passing yards record. They want their cake and to eat it too.
The thread was about Luck getting snubbed and I dont' think he was. I think if he deserved to go, he would be going. I see Manning, Brady, Big Ben, Schaub and even carson palmer getting votes before Luck.
As for my comparison of Luck to the Coalition...I'll share how I view the decision...
As I said back in March. You don't trade a constant for a variable. You change the variables into constants if you want success in the NFL because its all about consistency in execution.
So yes, I wanted a better Offensive Line and a better QB behind it.
Manning 2010 (having what I would consider a bad year)
Att: 679
CMP: 450
CMP%: 66.3
YDS:4700
TD:33
INT:17
Sacks:16/91
Coalition of Collins/Painter/Orlovsky
ATT:534
CMP:302
CMP%:56% (Dan was 63%)
TD:14
INT:14
Sacks 35/228
Luck 2012
Att:599
CMP: 325
CMP% 54%
YDS: 4183
TD:21
INT:40/239
If this was a line graph of QB production you would see a huge drop-off in 2011 followed by a flat line.
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ps. the most yards for rookie QB will be broken in the next 2 years. the texas 12v12 passing only league is churning out gunslingers. the NFL has changed folks. Lots of mannings records will fall in the next 15 years.
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any success? do ya think Stanton would have anywhere near the same success Luck has had with Wayne because if Luck were to go down thats whos next on the depth chart, Avery and rookie Allen? Avery has not lived up to full potential although he has done alright(worth bringing back) Lucks had a good year for a rookie despite drops, a pathetic excuse for an O Line and an O Coordinator that refuses to incorporate Lucks strengths into the game with any consistency. Without Luck we would be competing for draft position for the second year in a row. They have all had there part in helping as a team no doubt but without that main part (Luck) all these other parts would not be having the year they are having, Look at Waynes year last year, He had an off year compared to others, Just all my opinion not trying to come off all confrontational
no offense taken. reggie had a great year. Avery did alright. all the commentators and myself seem to think Allen is the best thing we got off the draft besides Ballard (and the obvious, the #1 pick.)
but if you compare lucks stats with the coalitions numbers from 2011, only yards is better. completion percentage is worse. If it wasn't for his 4th quarter heroics, he'd be flat out awful.
agree with the system, but Luck is very much like Big Ben and that system worked for Arians and Ben. This is a passing league. Chuck it downfield and hope for the PI or completion.
as for the OL, (im tired of hearing how bad it is) yes Luck made up for our bad OL, but the FO knew this when they drafted him and a bunch of receiving weapons instead of an OL - its not like there was a lot of OL talent in teh draft and it takes years to develop rookie OL anyway. Arians played the cards how they were dealt and I think Grigs did a great job dealing them.
Lets see how Luck does next year without Arians throwing the ball long on 3rd and short. I think his accuracy goes up and so does his completion %.
but does he deserve a spot on the PB roster this year? No.
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Lol that the only honest Luck observations involve bashing and belittling.
Meanwhile the vast majority of people offer pretty insightful observations without resorting to such things. Strange.
thanks for playing lol.
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Big Ben and Brett Favre.
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Love chuck - but he needs to go home and get some rest.
no reason to hurry back.
health and family first.
colts are doing just fine.
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Qwiz and Vance are gonna be loving this, I imagine almost everyone else will be very disappointed.
Speaking realistically, one of Manning, Brady and Schaub is surely headed to the Super Bowl so I'd certainly not be shocked to see Luck going, he's just missed the initial roster.
Reggie Wayne and Robert Mathis are both going.
As they should. Wayne (along with Avery and Allen) is the reason Luck had any success. Mathis was key to our defense but I think Redding was the difference maker for us this year.
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Are these boards able to handle Luck observations yet? 16 games of "walking on eggshells" every time you want to bring up how much he underperformed versus the hype. Meanwhile his numbers were comparable to Collins/Painter/Orlovsky.
Let me know when we can actually make honest Luck observations without a 3 paragraph introductory statement that says you are Luck's biggest fan...but...
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Von Miller
The Vikings Passing Game
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no bright side.
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There is no comparison.
Brown was a vet and Ballard was a rookie...
I've been touting Ballard since the season started.
We almost have a running game and a team.
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What part of NY. I was born in 73 been a colt fan my whole life. so thats why
Brooklyn. right down teh street from Barclays.
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ROFL
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I'm very happy with Grigs.
Since we fired JC I have only had FOUR problems with our choices in the offseason and draft. One of them had nothing to do with Grigs.
I didn't want to cut Manning (but that was on Irsay) - If we can never get past Manning than I will stand by this until he retires or we beat him in the playoffs.
I didn't want Bruce Arians (not sure if that was Irsay and Grigs or just Grigs) - undecided on this so far. Winning helps.
I didn't want to trade up for Hilton - I was wrong on this. This guy is all YAC.
I didn't want Fleener - I stand by this. I would still rather have Courtney Upshaw, Cordy Glenn, or Jenkins.
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I believe this years Colts as one of the more improbable stories in sports.
You mean to tell me that a team that went 2-14 last year, gutted the front office, gutted the coaching staff, and gutted the roster and have the number one overall pick and go on to win 9 games with a team without the head coach who is battling leukemia.
I believe it is the mix of veterans and young guys. Guys like Wayne, Freeney, Mathis, and Redding teaching younger players how to play like Luck, Ballard, Hilton, and Freeman. Guys who have played in super bowls and are emotional leaders of the team.
Hollywood couldn't write a script better than this, things like this don't happen. And it all started with Irsay who realized that the team needed to have a new face and a new feel.
No it all started when PM had neck surgery and Irsay decided to tank the season for Andrew Luck. ;)
I hear ya!! Just like the Saints won the Super bowl because of Katrina!!! SERIOUSLY!!!!
Yes. I totally remember thinking we're gonna lose because of Katrina. But this story beats the Katrinabowl. We were 2-14 and our head coach was diagnosed with Luekemia. Our Struggling #1 draft pick rallies the team to the playoffs.
Chapter 12, Luck beats the GOAT and the guy he replaced.
Chapter 13. Colts win super bowl.
I dunno, it may be too obvious if that were all to happen.
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I think this guy has a secret man crush on Andrew luck.
You stole this from me on the other thread.
Consider this a cease and desist.
or pay me to write your material
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