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5 hours ago, dgambill said:
I think Tom will be very interested in bringing Eli into Jacksonville. I think a lot will depend on how this season finishes up. If they take a rookie qb then they likely will get one late day 1 or trade back into top of second round. I would think you wouldn't start someone like that right away...and to learn under EIi would make a lot of sense for a couple years.
That all said my dark horse for Eli next year is none other than the Minnesota Vikings. They are in a win now situation with a pieces in place that would be a good fit for him. Would he want to leave New York where his home and family is all situated etc...who knows...he might just switch jerseys to the Jets if that means a lot to him not to uproot his family. That said I think even as good as the Keenum and Bradford has been for the Vikings Eli would be the perfect fit to possibly put them over the top in Minnesota. What do you think about that @NFLfan ? To me Denver is no better than NY. They have perhaps even a worse OL and for a qb in his late 30's protection should be important factor...and the ability to run the ball. Best fit....Minnesota....best relationship...Jacksonville.....best for family...Jets....likely landing spot...yeah probably Denver.
I don't know. I like Eli but he throws too many INTs. I don't see him signing here.
I know you are not a Bridgewater fan and I appreciate it but I think he would thrive in Shurmur's offense. I think Teddy will be our QB next year unless Keenum wins us a SB. Zimmer loves Teddy and keeps telling the media that Teddy looks great in the offense. He has not replaced Keenum, as we are winning.
One older quarterback that I have always liked is Rivers. After Teddy's injury last year, it was Rivers that I wanted the team to acquire.
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52 minutes ago, life long said:
A very unfitting end to such a valiant streak. Eli had a qbr in the 80s. He was not the sole reasons for the losses. Smith and Webb likely will do worse. Shame on the Giants and respect to Eli for taking the demotion with class like Peyton had done as well.
From what I have heard here, it was Eli who suggested the benching. This from my favorite sports radio personality:
An Unselfish Leader
by Richard NeerIf anyone had doubts about Eli Manning's leadership, they should be dispelled after his statements today. He said that McAdoo had offered him the opportunity to start against the Raiders to keep his streak alive, but he told the coach to start Geno Smith instead and agreed with the plan to give snaps to Davis Webb.
He has no realistic chance to pass Favre for the all time consecutive start record, but he could have added to his second place margin. He rightly declined, making it clear that he wants to
compete but team needs come first.
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17 hours ago, dgambill said:
SF must have been in full tank mode...Jimmy should have been playing after the bye...I mean Brissett came in day 1 and after like 3 weeks they still didn't want to give Jimmy the rock? I think it's a good fit with him and Shannahan.
I agree. He is going to be a good player for them if he re-signs there. (His contract terminates at the end of the season, right?)
What do you think of what Shurmur is doing with the Vikes offense? Some of your fellow Colts fans said they would be interested in Shurmur.
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9 hours ago, NFLfan said:
Lots of schools will be looking for coaches. I think the Texas A&M coach may get fired.
It was reported this morning that A&M did fire Sumlin. I think Arizona State also fired their head coach, Graham. Teams don't like to hire coaches who have recently been fired. I wonder if Bielema, Sumlin, Graham, Butch Davis and others who have recently been fired get hired by another school in the next two months.
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25 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said:
Yes and a fan revolt.
It is really sad how many people covered up for Sandusky. I don't know how they can live with themselves. Many people blamed McCreary for not doing more (stopping the act when he saw it) but I think it is the sort of thing that you are shocked to believe it really happened. He told his boss and it should have been handled from there. Instead of getting credit for bringing it to the attention of those who should have done something, he is blamed for contributing to the downfall of Penn State. I think those in authority should be held responsible. And they were -- some went to jail I believe, but I think at least one is free now (Curley is his name, I think.)
Anyway, let's see who Tennessee hires.
Lots of schools will be looking for coaches. I think the Texas A&M coach may get fired.
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17 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I would go with Ajayi @NFLfan for my final answer but I will feel bad if I tell you wrong. The 12 team league I am in is tight, I am 7-4, one other person is 7-4, and we have 4 others that are 6-5, then several at 5-6 LOL. The guy I am playing this week is really the only person out of it, he is 3-8. I thought you would kick out of me having Rudolph since you are a Vikings fan. Guy gave me 20 points on Thanksgiving!
17 hours ago, RockThatBlue said:Yeah I was gonna say him too
So, I decided to play Jamaal Williams and not Ajayi since Ajayi has hurt me most of the year. As I suspected, the Eagles played Clement and Blount more. And Ajayi had a fumble. He scored 3 FF points.
It is the end of the first quarter, Jamaal Williams has 12.6 points.
It turned out that it did not really matter who I chose because after the afternoon games, I was leading my opponent by 25 points and I still had 3 guys yet to play. My opponent has no players yet to play. He was hurt by Crabtree being ejected from his game without having scored any points. Also, Fournette did not have a good game, FF-wise.
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12 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said:
Tennessee killed the deal. Whats crazy Schiano signed the contract. He will need bought out. What a mess.
Is it the Sandusky stuff that surfaced that killed the deal?
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Jimmy G is in for the Niners after an injury to the starter CJ Beathard. He has a TD.
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7 minutes ago, Malakai432 said:
Thank you! Wait now I’m really confused.
Did we become best friends???
Stepbrothers, great movie if you haven’t seen it.
I’ll refrain from the Toby Biscuit comments btw. From now on I’ll refer by his real name, Coby Triskett.
This seems out of character for you.
The OL is most responsible for your woes on offense. Fix the OL and your QBs will play better.
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1 hour ago, coltsfansince65 said:
I know somewhere I'd like him to go................
1 hour ago, rockywoj said:Might lose him to the Colts?
You think Ballard would hire Shurmur over someone like the guy he worked with in KC (can't recall his name Taub??)?
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26 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said:
Schiano helped keep Sandusky out of jail. Yikes. Would not like that hire if I were a UT fan.
Did he? I did not know that. I too would not want him coaching my team. Sandusky took advantage of vulnerable boys/young men who he knew would not say anything because of their situation. I hope he is never paroled.
How did Schiano try to keep Sandusky out of jail? (You can reply later. You have Colts football to focus on today.)
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27 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said:
Florida is going to hire Dan Mullen away from Mississippi State. Wow.
It is looking more likely that Frost will return to his alma mater.
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14 minutes ago, ColtsBlueFL said:
Ask @NFLfan about the difference between Norv Turner and his power run/vertical pass attack vs. Pat Shurmur and his Andy Reid type 'pass to set up the run' type west Coast offense. She says they also adopted the ZBS (what % ot time, I'm not sure, i haven't seen much football this year). Shurmur also has spread, and speed up spread under his belt (Chip Kelly - Eagles). I'm sure she will say it was a big change, and a welcome one once the team buys in and 'gets it' (knowledge).
I know many are calling for that from Irsay/Ballard. I'd like a E-P type concepts offense, personally, but anything better than what we have now.
Yes, absolutely. It is the reason we are playing so much better on offense. He has Keenum looking like a franchise QB. The offense is not predictable like it was under Turner whose offense called for 7-step drops although our OL was awful and our QB and WRs were not suited for that offense.
We might lose Shurmur if our offense continues to look this good.
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4 minutes ago, ColtsBlueFL said:
Do we have an athletic zone blocking scheme type of line? Or bulky power blocking guys? You need a ZBS and O line that fits to run that well, and a zone run RB that knows when to flow or jump cut up the field.
What a difference a zone blocking scheme has done for the Vikings. Keenum is not much better than Brissett. Like you have told me in the past, fix the OL and the QB will play a lot better.
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10 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I would go with Ajayi @NFLfan for my final answer but I will feel bad if I tell you wrong. The 12 team league I am in is tight, I am 7-4, one other person is 7-4, and we have 4 others that are 6-5, then several at 5-6 LOL. The guy I am playing this week is really the only person out of it, he is 3-8. I thought you would kick out of me having Rudolph since you are a Vikings fan. Guy gave me 20 points on Thanksgiving!
10 hours ago, RockThatBlue said:Yeah I was gonna say him too
No worries. I like Ajayi but he has disappointed the whole year. I was very high on picking up Jamison Crowder, WR Washinton, but decided against it because I thought Juju was going to play.
Crowder scored over 20 points in the game against the Giants on Thursday.
I am no longer in first place but I have the same record as you, 7-4. The guy at the top is 8-3. This is the first week that I am not either first or tied for first.
My guys who have been dependable all year are Russell Wilson (highest scoring player in FF) and Zach Ertz, TE Eagles. Rams D/ST have also been good but I sat them (playing Saints) in favor of Ravens D/ST (playing Texans) this week. Ravens have had 3 shutouts this year!
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@2006Coltsbestever @RockThatBlue
Need your advice, my buddies. Several of my guys are injured (Juju, Robert Woods, Davonta Freeman). I have Ajayi (against Chicago defense) and Jamaal Williams (against Pitt defense) for Flex. Who should I play? I am leaning towards Williams, as the Eagles spread the ball around to their many offensive weapons. They have 3 RBs (Blount, Clement as well as Ajayi) that share the carries. The Chicago defense has been underrated. Pitt's defense is better but I think GB will rely on the run. Williams is their starting RB and two of the other RBs are injured/inactive.
What do you think?
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5 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said:
He recruits surprisingly well by Kentucky standards. Usually rated somewhere between 20-30 and even had one that was rated 15. Hes probably the best recruiter in our history. I don't feel like his staff does a very good job developing talent though. I think we need a new defensive coordinator and secondary coach because I see very little development on that side of the ball. We actually have several 4 stars and even high 3 stars on defense and yet after year 5 they are still so bad.
Yeah, recruiting is just the first step. Developing the players is also important. Perhaps they can replace some position coaches, but I think UK should retain Stoops.
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Here is a good article about Scott Frost. It is long but it is a good read, especially for a Nebraska fan.
Did you know???
Nebraska native Scott Frost originally turned down a scholarship to Nebraska to go to Stanford.
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1 hour ago, RockThatBlue said:
Good luck
hope they win. After my cats took 2 beatdowns in a row I'm pretty down about college football. I like Mark Stoops but every year the defense is just so terrible. Needs to make changes on that side of the ball IMO.
I am sorry to hear that. You have to stick with Stoops to get some continuity. Starting all over does not lead to more success.
I think recruiting is the most important factor in winning in college football. How has Kentucky done in recruiting football players? Maybe around National Signing Day (I think that is what it is called), we can have a thread on recruiting. That is usually around Feb. 6th.
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1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Stanford won! I was 2-1 on my upset picks.
Despite having a down year, Stanford will play in the PAC-12 Championship Game against USC. They lost big to USC earlier in the year. Their other two losses were by 3 points each, to Washington St and San Diego St.
It won't be easy but hopefully they can beat USC in the rematch. I believe the winner will go to the Rose Bowl.
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ND-Stanford Game started slow with 4 straight punts. The QBs have been able to make good passes and the offenses look a bit better. ND scored a TD first followed by to Stanford touchdowns.
Stanford up 14-10.
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8 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Thanks, you just made me feel better
You are right though but Nebraska has a better tradition than Florida does. We spanked them in 1995 62-20 in the Title Game. My 95 team was the best of all-time.
I did not realize that Scott Frost played QB for Nebraska on one of their championship teams. Was he the QB of that '95 team? No wonder you want him to coach your team.
I don't recall Scott Frost from the Nebraska teams at all. I remember Tommie Frazier and Eric Crouch.
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1 hour ago, RockThatBlue said:
Now I think its over
1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:Game over! Auburn wins. I am 1-1 so far on my upset picks. Was wrong with Michigan. Stanford over ND is my tiebreaker. I picked Auburn and nailed it.
Yay! Glad to hear that Bama lost.
Stanford and ND coming up. Go Stanford!
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1 minute ago, GOZER said:
How bout them Boilers!!!!!!! Beautiful day for a game and a victory over IU !!!!!!!! Going Bowling, Whoop Whoop!
Congrats!
Crowder scored over 20 points in the game against the Giants on Thursday.
hope they win. After my cats took 2 beatdowns in a row I'm pretty down about college football. I like Mark Stoops but every year the defense is just so terrible. Needs to make changes on that side of the ball IMO.
Despite having a down year, Stanford will play in the PAC-12 Championship Game against USC. They lost big to USC earlier in the year. Their other two losses were by 3 points each, to Washington St and San Diego St.
Eli Manning benched
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I don't think Eli is that much better than Keenum is now. For his career Eli is at least a borderline Hall of Famer. But I don't think at this point he is better than what we already have. If we are going to go with Eli, we might as well stay with Keenum or Bridgewater. I think both are leaders.
If the Vikings did acquire Eli, I would not have a problem with it but I don't believe it is necessary.