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People seem to forget that signing the player isn't like in Madden. There is more than the compensation and the money at play.
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17 minutes ago, DougDew said:
I think it was said that the cupboard was bare when he got here, implying that he would fill it. I get that a GM can fill a cupboard after 7 years more than if he got fired after 4, but the core player definition that he used isn't all that well stocked. The cupboard wasn't all that bare. Gore vs JT, TY vs Pitt, Mathis vs Buckner, AC vs Nelson, Luck vs AR. Kelly still here. Doyle vs. ? Ballard certainly has a few more little pieces here and there after 3 more years of trying, but stating there is a glaring difference, its just not there, IMO. Agreed to disagree.
Buckner, Stewart, Franklin, Paye, Speed.....the list isn't as bad. Also I'd say the OL is in a good position too. AR will be the make or break for him.
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If people want free agency warriors as their team, there is plenty of out there. Deal with it, Indy has never been an FA team, it isn't a Ballard thing, fans being surprised about this must have been here for about 5 mins
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This needs to happen
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5 minutes ago, Blueblood23 said:
They let Moss walk out the door. Dumb
Meh, running backs, they come and go, draft cheaper
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We need to trade up to 4 for Maserati Marv. He is exactly what we need and it makes so much sense. Trade the farm if we must lol
I can't bear to see him in another uni.
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2 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:
No there isn’t. Small market NFL teams sign stars all the time. If you pay players they will come. It’s part of the big secret to the NFL success, parody thanks to the salary cap that lets any team sign just about any player they want if they are willing to pony up the money for them.
As for Ballard he’s publicly said he believes in paying his own and that he’s not big splash guy in free agency. If Ballard wanted to be a big splash guy he could be but that’s not who he is. He prefers to spend his money on his guys he’s drafted.
Grigson would spend but spent it on the wrong guys. Remember him talking Frank Gore out of going to Philly to come here and singing Andre Johnson in moves that were supposed to lead to a championship? He also signed the Jackson guy from the Browns who was sought after when he was released and Landry who was sought after at the time that just blew up in his face.
Even the rare times Polian would dip into free agency he landed star players when he went after them. The two biggest examples being AV and Corey Simon.
I just don't believe any of those guys were "star" prime of their career players.
As much as I loved having Gore and he was somewhat productive for us, a 32 year old running back just wasn't a star signing imo. Probably the biggest name as far as FA signing of the past 30 years and thats telling. Same with Johnson, he requested a trade from Texas and couldn't find anyone willing to give up a pick for him. Twilight of their career signings.
My comments are on the state of some of the fans who expect us to sign 25 year old studs, which just doesn't happen for us.
Anyway, we can look at the same thing from different perspectives. I just think location matters to athletes and Indy isn't a sexy one and never has been and it's definitely a factor. Anyway, that's as much as I can say about this topic without repeating myself.
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2 hours ago, GoColts8818 said:
They didn’t struggle too they chose not too. Polian made it know he didn’t believe in free agency in most cases. He preferred to use his money to keep their own. Ballard is the same mold. Grigson was more willing to dip into free agency and often gave out big contracts that didn’t work out but he had no problem signing players in free agency.
Thats just the matter of perspective. I don't believe Ballard is the same mold, he is very much willing, to a certain financial extent. He just isn't willing to jeopardise our financial sheet for someone who doesn't fit us in every possible way, athleticism etc etc and especially personality wise.
As far as Grigson goes, he had no problem to spend for sure, but that elite level of talent that most complain about not spending on, never was on the table and thats my point. There is a hidden tax on our team due to location if you will. He spent a lot, on average talent. Most he signed were twilight veterans, not difference makers people point out we should have gone after all the time w Ballard.
The Grigson years are still upsetting lol
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1 hour ago, w87r said:
Ballard doesn't need defended from you or anyone else. He will be back next year, not even a question about it, no matter how many of you choose to continue to complain consistently, making the forum almost intolerable, rather than actually just supporting your team, in what was supposed to be a developmental year from the jump.
So true.
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3 minutes ago, throwing BBZ said:
Justin Houston
Stephon Gilmore
Winningest team in NFL History over a 10 year period with at least 3 Hall of Famer's.
Luck could have attracted top talent and Irsay and Ballard would have done it if we were ready. IMO Frank and Ballard failed as a team.
It is yet to be seen if Steichen can win with Ballard.
Come on, yes, Frank Gore and Andre Johnson too.
None of these were in their primes or were coveted high profile athletes at the time. These were hand me downs, coming to play in the twilight of their career.
Maybe Gilmore because he might have thought we can win with Ryan but again, he got traded for a 5th for a reason.
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23 minutes ago, compuls1v3 said:
You think Indy is more expensive than the coasts? Seems off to me.
It's not about expensive. It's about the lifestyle.
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6 minutes ago, Dobbinblitz said:
That is a good take on the situation. In the end - players want to get paid and they want to win.
I believe if Richardson works out, it will assist in attracting players to Indy. The Franchise has been stuck in QB purgatory for quite some time now, and creates a big overpay scenario to sign other players.
That being said, we never really brought anyone in from the outside when were we one of the winningest franchises with a HoF QB or with Luck.
You need a certain type of a personality to stay in Indy. Ballard has put an emphasis on that.
I'd certainly take less money to live in either of the coasts than Indiana as a professional athlete.
As they say in property.
Location location location!
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1 minute ago, Dobbinblitz said:
Slippery slope though - puts the GM in a position of having to be almost perfect in draft, which no GM is. Polian did well hitting on offensive lineman after the 3rd round which strengthened many of his drafts. While Ballard has stayed with the philosophy of primarily building through the draft and uncovering hidden potential via UDFA or waiver wire, many others GM's are very active using all means available to build a roster and manage the Cap. I do believe Ballard is also stubborn in the fact that he has stuck far too long with some draft picks and signings that never lived up to expectations at any point. I believe this has impacted the quality of depth on the roster. This current team also has some excellent draft picks who have underperformed after signing lucrative second contracts.
I think, given the fact how insanely poor this team was when he took over, he has done pretty well.
But the issue still remains, we always have and always will struggle to sign quality free agents because of the location of the franchise. Same with Pacers.
Even Mcafee mentioned it before how much of a pain in the bum it is to have his show in Indy.
Pro athletes in the social media age are now looking beyond contracts and beyond their playing time and can carve out second careers much easier than ever before when given the right platform and I just don't believe that platform exists in Indiana.
I could be wrong, I just don't blame Ballard the same way I didn't blame Grigson or Polian for the lack of quality signings throughout the last 30 years.
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4 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:
That's more of how Polian ran things as a GM in the Manning days. Ballard is the same way. Grigson was a FA guy, he just couldn't draft. Unfortunately, we didn't have a GM who was good at both.
Because there is no both in Indy. We always been a drafting team.
The very reason we have Ballard as the GM who has been linked as one of the best scouting front office personal in the league well before his tenure in Indy (CHI, KC) is because he can draft. If we don't have a good drafting GM and we have an injury, ala Manning or Luck, we go 2-15.
One could argue, that getting Buckner in, was the best FA/Trade move in the past 30 years.
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Just now, Jared Cisneros said:
Winning cures everything. Players would come to us if we win. Unfortunately, with our location and also losing, it's hard to sign quality FAs without overpaying.
Even with Manning, one of the winningest franchises of the 21st century, the Colts have struggled to sign meaningful FAs, again its a historical issue.
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7 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:
It’s why sometimes you have to overpay when it’s not a great destination.
I'd take less to go to either coasts rather than move to Indy. Even Mcafee has talked about this before. Its a historical issue and not just to the Colts but to other pro franchises in Indiana.
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3 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:
Yep, and Ballard isn't willing to overpay most of the time, which is why we aren't aggressive in FA and rely on the draft.
Both Ballard and Irsay has shown many times we are willing to pay but its 2023 and with social media athletes have way more opportunities on the coasts. Simple as that.
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Colts fans need to understand that Indianapolis isn't a destination for pro athletes. It is what it is. Once in a blue moon we can land someone like Buckner who wants to be here but thats about it. It really just isn't and never was a sexy destination for athletes, simple as that. Most should know this by now since its a historical issue.
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Some of these takes man hilarious and also hilariously sad, sometimes I wonder if most people around here are actually Colts fans or not. Or even watch football on a consistent basis.
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Exactly the type of game you want to see with a young team like this and a rookie qb.
Stand up and fight
We keep showing heart and ability, love it
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It's incredible and sad to see how little faith fans have in the players they supposed to root for.
It's week 4 *, why are we so afraid of setting realistic expectations for players.
This forum has been sad to read through the past few months.
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NFL.com rankings or PFF stats are about as useful as Ryan Grigson in a draft room
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Wish him all the best, I think he can be a better player than we seen here
Texans Trade for Stefon Diggs
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Don't know what people are so crazy on this, Diggs isn't the guy you want on your team