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  1. Lots of people are saying the anger is from the timing of this and thats a lie. The truth is people would be just as upset if this happened in March as they were last night...because either way the end result is Andrew Luck is no longer playing and takes much of the Super Bowl hopes with him. I can just here the whiners now if this happened in March...”He should have taken more time to think about it, has plenty of years left, blah blah” Plus, Irsay said it himself last night that he advised Andrew to hold off as long as possible making a decision like this because that’s what you should do with big decisions. So you can bet the Colts we’re trying to talk him out of it and pushed this to the end in hopes that he keeps playing. Given that Andrew is one of 6-7 people on the planet with his skill set any organization would have done the same thing. All we see is the game on Sunday. If anyone has ever had surgery and went through rehab you know it absolutely blows. And yes it blows mentally too. Anyone who can’t comprehend what it takes to mentally come back from an injury should zip it. Football is a rough sport and I highly doubt there are many players not rehabbing something at any given time. So maybe Luck comes back from the ankle but what’s he dealing with in 2 months? After the season? It’s always likely to be something. The money isn’t going to make it worth it for all and that’s okay. Players have a life beyond football. Luck and his wife are expecting and it’s not so hard to believe that maybe he would rather walk away now, before more wear and tear on his body, and be able to play with his kid. Even without a child it’s understandable why a player walks away with seemingly good years remaining. Just because some players want to keep going, like Romo, doesn’t mean every player has to. At the end of the day it’s their life and their career. Andrew owes the fans nothing. He owes the team nothing. He is doing what he feels is right for him and that’s exactly what he should do. If people can’t handle a player calling the shots on their own career they should go find some hobby that allows them to be a control freak. Anyone who decided to boo Luck last night needs to grow up. The fact is the Colts we’re very fortunate to have Luck as their QB even if it was for “only” 6 years. He was great in the community too. Maybe some don’t realize or they do but don’t care because they are too busy acting like a 3 year old who doesn’t get their way.
  2. I'm not sure it's going to haunt the fanbase. Sports can bring out the worst in some people and it doesn't matter what city, sport, or league. They are not the first fans to do something undesirable. That said those who did boo are clowns. I think Schefter was simply doing his job. The person to blame is whoever leaked the info to Schefter. (I'm doubting that was Luck and his camp)
  3. He doesn't owe it to teammates or fanbase. Players are free to retire whenever they want. Just like teams can cut and trade players whenever they want. Go ask Peyton Manning how he felt when the Colts got rid of him and if the Colts owed him anything. Circumstances are not always ideal if life including sports...you just have to deal with it. It's not ideal timing, it would have been better if this happend in the spring but it didn't. Life goes on.
  4. Luck doesn't owe the fans anything. No athlete does. He should do what's best for him and his family and live the life he wants. And if he isn't all in on football I would rather get this over with and move on as a Colts fan.
  5. I'm anxious for training camp to start and interested to see how Fountain performs. He is very easy to write off after last year but it was known that he was pretty raw when drafted. He mentioned on his Twitter account a couple months back something along the lines of learning the hard way that nothing is guaranteed you have to work every day. If I had to bet money on someone to surprise people with his performance this camp I think Fountain is as good of a candidate as anyone.
  6. I saw an article on Bleacher Report for post free agency trade ideas. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2843625-5-blockbuster-trade-ideas-early-in-nba-free-agency#slide4 One of the ideas involved the Pacers trading Domantas Sabonis to the Spurs for Derrick White and Chimezie Metu. I'm still in the doubting Sabonis/Turner playing together works camp. Adding another versatile guard is intriguing to me. I think Victor, Malcolm, and White could all play well together. Bring Lamb off the bench as a 6th man scorer. How good is Derrick White though?
  7. I feel pretty good with where the Pacers stand in the East. - Toronto - Just a guess but I'm thinking Kawhi goes to LA. They won't be a threat in the East if he leaves. - Brooklyn - They "won" free agency today but even if KD returns healthy I don't think they are unbeatable. Obviously you have to love the talent of Kyrie and KD but I'm not sure about the personalities and their leadership. I don't get the DeAndre Jordan signing when they already have Jarrett Allen not to mention the fact that Kyrie and KD gave up like $5 million each so the Nets could sign DeAndre. - Milwaukee - Giannis is an elite talent and can still get better but the rest of their team is nothing to get excited about and they are losing a key guard and forward. - Philadelphia - They still have great talent despite losing Jimmy Butler but I think Redick leaving hurts a lot and I'm not convinced their starters fit together that well. Maybe the Pacers can dump McDermott on them. - Boston - They need to replace Horford but might be the team to beat next year in the East. I think replacing Kyrie with Kemba is a win for them and Tatum/Brown should only get better. The Pacers have their own question marks. First up being how Victor plays when he returns. The next being how well this new group plays with each other. I still think Sabonis/Turner playing together is questionable and wonder if KP finds a deal for Sabonis in the weeks to come. If I were forced to guess how the first day of free agency would turn out for the Pacers I would have said re-sign Bojan and sign Rubio. I'm glad the Pacers went the direction they did. I think they hit the ceiling with the core group they had the last couple of years and it was time to switch gears. We'll see how well this new group does together.
  8. Draymond and D'Angelo will be interesting as teammates.
  9. GSW has to be going into the tax for this, right? Looks like they are trading Iguodala and a 1st to the Grizzles. Iguodala might be waived by the Grizzles. He can't return to GSW for a year though. On paper I don't think D'Angelo is the greatest fit with Curry and Thompson. At the same time I don't blame either side. Having to figure this out in a year when Klay returns isn't really a bad problem to have. If your GSW you needed to get another star to replace KD. It's better to get D'Angelo and see what happens vs doing nothing. For D'Angelo I don't blame him for choosing GSW over other options. Go to Minnesota if they were able to clear the cap space? Return to the Lakers or go to the Clippers? GSW is as good or better than any of those options, imo. In the back of my mind I thought maybe the surprise of free agency might be the Warriors ending up with another star forward, Kawhi or Jimmy Butler, to replace KD. Ending up with D'Angelo Russell isn't the worst outcome for them.
  10. The Pacers will need to sign a forward who can do some of the things that Thad did for them. Maybe Stanley Johnson? I'm not trying to imply Johnson is as good as Thad but someone like that is needed now at either forward spot. This team has plenty of guys to score now especially if the Warren trade still becomes official.
  11. I like adding Brogdon but I hate to see a 1st being traded. I understand it in certain situation like when the Pacers dealt Plumlee and a 1st to Phoenix for Luis Scola. Dealing one now when your star is injured and you are rebuilding the team? I don't like it. Hopefully it's heavily protected. I didn't think the Bucks had the cap space to match for Brogdon. I guess so? I think he's a pretty big loss for them.
  12. Best of luck to Bojan. Not worth it for the Pacers given where they are at right now, imo.
  13. I think Lamb would be a nice signing if the Pacers can get it done.
  14. Good luck Thad. It was time for the Pacers to move on given what it would have cost to keep him.
  15. I can't say I'm shocked at Durant going there based on the rumors but I really don't understand why he would want to leave Golden State. They were willing to pay him and him and Klay coming back in 2020-2021 makes them one of the favorites if not the favorite to win the championship again. Every place is going to have issues to work through. No situation is perfect. To choose playing with Kyrie and ? over Curry, Thompson, and Green though? I just don't understand.
  16. Yeah can't blame him if he ends up signing with the Jazz though. They will get overlooked but they can make a run even in the West. It sound like Rubio is a lock for the Pacer. I really don't understand that if Bojan is not brought back. Rubio isn't a very good shooter so you need to surround him with those. Victor is pretty ball dominate and right now it looks like Domas will be the 4? I still think Domas might get traded. I know KP has said him and Myles will play together but what else is he supposed to say?
  17. They have been the top half in salary. Maybe not in your imagination they haven’t but in reality they have. How many times has a team went over the cap to win a championship? How many times has a team gone over the cap and not or not even make the playoffs? (New York Knicks) How many times did the Warriors draft in the top 3 to put together their first championship team? My my point is there just seems to be a lot of what sounds like excuses the past week or two. Like we should only expect a second round exit at best for this team. I just don’t buy that.
  18. Irving is better than Kemba but I think Kemba is a much better fit in Boston that it will end up being an upgrade for the Celtics. It sounds like they will lose Horford and that is likely to be a bigger loss for them but we'll see who they can get to replace him. (assuming he does in fact leave) Not many players the Pacers are linked to but I imagine we'll have to see what happens with Bojan. Something I need to get off my mind... I'm tired of hearing all of the talk on how hard it is for small market teams like the Pacers to win. The Pacers are usually in the top half of the league in team salaries. There usually isn't a ton that separates the team that spends the 15th most in the league and the team that spends the 4th. I've been listening the podcasts on 1070 this week and last for the Pacers talk. JMV has thrown out there how easy it is for New York, LA teams, etc to make up for mistakes. What? Outside of when the Lakers signed Shaq and recently Lebron...not so much. New York has stunk for 20 years and as of right now they haven't landed the big name free agents perception would leave you to believe. When have any big time free agents signed with the Clippers? The Warriors didn't get one (Durant) until they showed they were competing for a championship. We have heard how players don't want to play in Indy because of the lack of a beach, nightlife, Doyel claimed this week politics, etc. We all thought Paul George was heading to LA. Then the Thunder traded for him, obviously built a good relationship with him, has some good players for him to play with and...he stays. This could have happened with the Pacers but they haven't done a good job of building the roster. If you put together a good team, build relationships with the players, and pay them they are likely to stay. I'm sure we will only hear more of this nobody wants to play in Indiana talk in the weeks to come but I think a lot of it is just excuse making by the team and local media. The Pacers have had some good shots at winning a title over the years. If they can draft well and/or make a trade for an up and coming player (Jalen Rose, Jermaine O'Neal) they can be back at the top of the East.
  19. Thad is one of my favorite Pacers but I think it's time for the Pacers to move on and I hope he signs with a contender. Thad was a starting forward. The Pacers acquired TJ Warren to replace Thad that, to me, indicates they view him as a starter. Which is interesting because after the draft last night the talk was Sabonis/Turner playing at this spot. Which makes me question if the Pacers really believe in Sabonis/Turner playing together. Also, Kevin Pritchard was on JMV this afternoon. One of the questions JMV asked was around the type of point guard they will go after. JMV said something along the lines of "do you want to sign a distributor or scorer at point guard". (obviously asking about Rubio or Russell without naming them specifically) Pritchard said it depends on who you have at the other spots. If you have scoring then he wants a point guard who can distribute, if he has guys like Thad he wants a scoring guard. My takeaway from this is the rumors are true about the Pacers interest in Rubio.
  20. No doubt and I think those are valid concerns. We'll see how this plays out. But I think that this move gives the Pacers more flexibility...we'll see what they can turn that into. (if anything)
  21. Right now the pick seems questionable with Turner and Sabonis on the roster but I think this can work out nicely for the Pacers. 1. Turner and Sabonis have the most value to move. 2. Pacers (and others) saw Goga as a late lottery talent. In theory, you draft a center at 18 who has more upside than a player who plays a position you need that was also on the board. Trading one of Turner or Sabonis is likely to land the Pacers a good wing player. The overall result of Goga + whoever they land in a trade can be much better than Turner/Sabonis + other players they could have selected. This just might work out for the Pacers...at least way better than it appears at a first glance. One other thing I'll add...I will always hesitate to criticize the Pacers for taking a player they don't currently need at least when that player has upside like Goga appears to. It's tempting to with this pick but I just think back to the 2011 draft. That night it appeared like a good move to trade the draft rights for Kawhi, a wing player it didn't appear the Pacers needed, for a point guard which was a position of need at the time.
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