Yoshinator
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Perriman has similar size and speed to Moncrief. Dorsett I see more as a dominant slot WR who can be like Antonio Brown if he learns the whole route tree.
Definitely agree on the Dorsett/Brown comparision. I'll take a closer look at Perriman next time he practices. I think he's out with an injury right now. The size makes sense, I thought he had Dorsett speed, I may be wrong.
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We already have a player similar to Perriman in Moncrief.
Unless I'm thinking of someone else, I thought Perriman was more similar to Dorsett with bad hands.
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I have no doubt that the Colts would have taken Perriman if he hadn't gone before us. Just call it a hunch. But I think they liked him.
You may be right. I didn't see the Colts draft board and tried to avoid it as much as possible to be surprised on draft day. I think Perriman is fast like Dorsett but has butterfinger hands. That's why I didn't want him. I honestly think for choosing a WR, we got the right one. Time will tell. I know you like Tyler Lockett as do I (check my draft against Grigson's, I have Lockett), but I think Dorsett will be the best WR in the draft. Year 1 maybe not, but he'll be the no2 next year.
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not impressed. i dont have a lot of respect for sports writers but dustin is some random guy on a forum
Dustin put in a ton of work in the draft and he was very accurate. Even though I disagree with him sometimes, he is extremely good at what he does and has earned the respect of people on this forum, me included. I haven't seen you contribute anything to the draft and I doubt Dustin or the sports writers care if you respect them, especially when you put in 0 work at all. Even I showed some effort with my posts and mocks. So maybe you should show some respect to people who put in work, you may learn something. Unless you are just a mindless sheep that is a yes man to Grigson's decisions. I loved Dorsett, but it was from watching hours of tape, not because I just go with the flow.
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I personally had a meltdown with the pick, but in hindsight it's going to be fun to watch
opposing defenses try to stymie our loaded receiver mismatches.
If the run game can keep em' honest, then it's going to be a lot of fun watching Luck
and company pick apart defenses,
my only concern is against smash mouth/ ball control teams that will keep our offense
on the sideline and out of rhythm.
I had a mixed opinion about it. I loved the player and will admit I only liked the pick because it was specifically Dorsett, who was my man crush pick at the time. If it was Breshad Perriman (WR who the Ravens took before us), Devin Smith, or Jaelen Strong, I would have been furious.
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For some reason Rosenhaus reminds me of Michael's agent on Hollywood Hillbillies.
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Love how some of you guys would pay Hilton 11 or 12 million but not 13 or 14. Do you really think 2 million somewhere else would benefit this team more? We have 3 irreplacable players. Luck, Hilton, and Vontae. We need to keep these 3, even if we overpay. We aren't the Seahawks trying to hold a pro bowl defense together. We can afford Allen, Fleener and Constanzo. You pay your elite players, especially a team that is still rebuilding. Poor baby takes 2 million extra off the salary cap, waaaaaaaa. Lets just not have Hilton instead and weaken ourselves for a $2 million dollar backup player.
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Different trade idea:
We trade TY Hilton and a 5th for Joel Botonio and fortify our O-Line. We'll still have a solid WR corps and our O-Line will be excellent.
Our WR corps would be Andre, Dorsett, Moncrief, Carter, Whalen, Brown.
Our O-Line would be Constanzo, Botonio, Holmes, Herremans, Mewhort
We'd be extremely strong and we wouldn't have to pay TY next year while getting an elite guard.
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1 Malcolm Brown
2 Mustard
3 Henry Anderson
4 TJ Clemmings
5 Karlos Williams
6 La'el Collins ( Cory Robinson)
6 Tre McBride
7 Antwan Goodley
I haven't heard the name mustard for d'joun smith yet. Good job changing your team!
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With training camp coming up in a week and all our draft picks signed, I thought I'd create a thread to ask and discuss which Colts rookies everyone will be watching in training camp. This thread will be only about the rookies. They can be ones we drafted, or ones we signed as UDFA's. If you are looking at someone like a Vick Ballard, that's for another thread. So what rookies will you be watching and why?
I will be watching Phillip Dorsett, Clayton Geathers, and Josh Robinson the most. These three have the best chance of making some sort of big impact in year 1 IMO at their position, and Dorsett was my no1 receiver in the entire draft class. I want to see if he can develop chemistry with Luck, burn Vontae a decent amount of the time, and run crisp routes as well as catch the ball consistently. Geathers is a guy who may start for us at a weak position and I'm very curious how he does comparatively speaking to Lowery. Robinson was not my no1 RB, but he was the rb I wanted because of where we should of drafted him and also this being a defensive draft, which it was. I'm hoping for him he can run between the tackles, find the holes, and maybe become a decent receiving rb as well. If he can become the backup to Gore and take 5-7 carries per game, that would be huge.
Tell me what you think below, I hope we can have some nice discussions and enjoy training camp together! Remember, we all want these players to do well, whether they were your first choice or not, they are Colts.
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I was furious at the time they drafted him and really was against the pick for months afterwards. But after having time to think it over and look at it from a different angle,I think it was a great pick that makes a lot of sense.
I think the first thing that made me see it differently was when I thought about possible WR formations and realized that the Colts don't have a "true" slot receiver. Hilton is an outside guy, as well as AJ and Moncrief. I'm not saying Dorsett it's limited to playing in the slot only, but he can be really deadly there with his speed. How many nickel CBs would be able to cover a guy with 4.2 speed? It would make for an incredible WR set with Hilton and AJ on the outside, and Dorsett on the inside. Someone would have to be open.
Also I was always a fan of Dorsett as a player. He seems really down to earth and humble. But when AJ retires, his value goes up immensely. Now you have 3 really capable receivers, and it becomes pick your poison, especially when you factor in our TEs.
Although there were other players I might have preferred like Malcolm Brown, Dorsett is a really good pick. Plus Grigson made up for the guys he passed on by getting players at the same position who could be just as good. But, I'm pretty excited for Dorsett. He could be a real menace in this league.
Proud of you for admitting it. Just wait til you see Dorsett play. He was my no1 ranked WR in the whole 2015 draft class. He is the epitome of what a receiver should be and I believe he can be as good as Hilton.
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Happiest day in a while for me! Glad we got it out of the way. If you read this Superman, thanks for the pep talk a few days ago. Now we can start practicing in training camp and see who stands out. Glad they both signed together.
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Probably Jamaal Charles. Leveon Bell would be close though.
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It's not Grigson's job, actually. It's Mike Bluem's job, who is the contract/cap/compliance guy.
Ah, that explains it then. Something seemed off that Grigson wouldn't get something this easy done. Thanks for the correction Superman. I'll wait it out and hopefully they get signed in a few days.
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Why would you think this is the EASIEST part of being a GM?
The two players have agents who don't want the off-set language and Grigson wants it. (or the other way around....)
It's a stalemate. One side or the other is going to give.... the hope is that it's the agents. Otherwise, there's going to be a holdout, which I would suspect is going to be short, but I don't expect Grigson to give in. At some point the players would have to say to their agents that it's not worth missing camp over.
But, I don't see anything easy about this from Grigson's standpoint.....
Being a GM, you manage the salary cap, which is tough. You sign FA's, which is very difficult because of age and scheme fit along with trying not to overspend. You draft players, literally the hardest part of being a GM as there are thousands of players to scout. All he has to do now is sign the players he drafted at a certain value. No other team is trying to draft him. We are down to the point where we have the last two picks in the league unsigned and they are our 2nd and 3rd pick. I'm not making a big deal of it, but I'm very nervous and it should of been done by now. This isn't baseball where you can sign above or below slot value.
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Language issues sounds like an excuse to me. This is literally the easiest part of being a GM, signing draft picks that you aren't competing with anyone else to sign. Grigson is probably trying to do something similar that the titans were doing with Mariota. At least with the Jaguars, they lose their picks to injury, we don't even get a chance to get our players injured lol. I hope this goes away soon, because I'm at the point where I'm getting nervous as there are two picks to be signed, not 1.
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Reggie should play for the Patriots and purposely drop a td pass in the playoffs to give us the win in the AFC Championship game in Indy as a proper tribute to the Colts.
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Everybody's either too good, or too cheap.
Quite the conundrum.
That's why we need more questionable characters on the team.
Easy cuts. They do it themselves.
Yep lol. I wish we could do like baseball and trade a few spare parts for a young solid player at a position of need. Unfortunately, we don't have that luxury in the NFL.
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1.Phillip Dorsett-WR
3.D'Joun Smith-CB
3.Grady Jarrett-DT
4.T.J. Clemmings -T/G
5.Josh Robinson-RB
6.Ifo Ekpre-Olumu-CB
6.Anthony Harris-S
7.Ryan Delaire-Pass Rusher
7.Caleb Schaffitzel-S....Why another Safety? If for no other reason I'd enjoy announcers trying to say his last name...I think he would make a good special teamer...Also totally unrelated to football he is going into wildlife conservation...I admire that a lot....Was a good player as well
Hey Gavin, we traded our 7th rounder to move up and get Parry, so we only have our compensatory 7th too pick with. You'll have to get rid of one of your 7ths.
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I'm going to go with Jared on this.
Simple fact is that according to the rules of the NFL draft he can get drafted, refuse to sign, sit a year and go through the draft next year and by all accounts that's what he intended to do. However he can't do that if he goes undrafted.
There is a reason absolutely NO ONE took a shot on him in the late rounds. If he indicated that he would have signed and played even if drafted in the late rounds you can guarantee SOME TEAM would have taken a shot on him. I mean dropping a 7th rounder on him would have been extremely low risk, high reward for ANYONE.
So we have to operate by what Grigs and every other GM knew at the time. Collins will not sign if drafted past the 2nd day and therefore the pick would be wasted. Therefore I think Collins should be off the table.
Thank you as well Valpo! This will make the game a bit better as the last pick is basically picking an UDFA and will take some skill.
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Your game, your rules.
Thanks Superman, I appreciate you backing me up!
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La'el Collins was eligable to be drafted so Grigson did have the option to draft him. What happened was no GM chose to draft Collins for whatever reason. So according to your rules, he should be allowed to be drafted.
You know why he wasn't being drafted, because he threatened not to sign and it's a lot easier said than done to risk a draft pick for nothing. If he would of signed, a GM would of taken him, and it would of been earlier than the 7th. He was getting talked to by the police about a murder at the time. You can't expect Grigson or any other GM to draft him because of that and it won't be allowed here. Too big of an advantage over Grigson's draft. Everyone will do it and it will be a free hit.
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Here's my team:
1:29 Landon Collins SS
3:1 Tyler Lockett WR
3:29 Henry Anderson DE
4:10 T.J. Clemmings OT
5:15 Michael Bennett DT
6:29 Josh Robinson RB
6:31 Hayes Pullard ILB
7:38 Cody Prewitt FS
Looking forward to seeing how it does!
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If you were reading my rules and went past number 3 already regarding free agents, re-read it. There's a rule regarding La'el Collins that will affect your team.
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I said Dorsett was going to be the top receiver in the draft when he was still perceived as a 3rd round pick. He's done well so far working his way to the first round, ironically getting drafted to Indy, and doing well in training camp. Cooper is a beast with incredible route running and a great attitude. He is probably a bit more talented and has the starting job, so we will see.