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We wont even have leverage to trade TY at the end of next season...
With his rookie contract about to expire at that point, other teams can just wait for TY to become a FA and then try and sign him rather than give up any draft picks or trade players etc.
The only way TY gets PAID and stays here is if the front office decide he is worth the mega bucks over trying to keep one or both of the TE's in Allen and Fleener.... which I doubt. TY is great and all, but id rather lose him and keep both TEs than the other way around... and that is coming from someone who has TY as their favorite colt...
You may be right on TY
On the TEs, so far, Fleener has become a decent target, but to me, isn't a complete player. To me, he is a big WR, in our offense, I dont think we will be giving him huge money.
On Allen, the guy is a more complete player, BUT...... he seems to have trouble being healthy.
This year will develop the market for both TEs. If they both stay the same, I dont look for them to break the bank....... If they both have monster years.... we may be mortgaging the farm........
With so many improved recievers, I dont know how either get the stats.......
We will see
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Its a great roster, with some glaring holes..........
Its boring to chat about the good stuff........
The glaring holes are easy forum (disagreements) chatter...........
I am glad I never stoop that low.........
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I think it is going to come down to whether or not TY wants to play with #12 for the coming years or whether he is all about the money....
If TY wants to stay with Luck he will probably have to compromise at about £12m a year, but I wouldnt hold my breath on this front... He did say it takes both sides to come to an agreement, but I think TY, and almost rightfully so, is going to go for the money, no matter where he ends up. It's a business at the end of the day and he is going to want to get paid.
That's a great point.
In many cases, the players that seem to give the hometown discount, and / or willing to play for less, are the ones that are veterans who want to win a SB, or have a chance at a SB.
If you are a young guy, and havent had that one fat contract, you may opt for the biggest money.
Unfortunately. Hilton hasn't had his payday yet
I hope we can find a way to keep him, but in my book its iffy.(I think 50/50 like some other posters)
The biggest contract to watch for is Dez Bryant.
In 2014, TY had similar numbers to Dez. If Dez gets 15....... (He will).... Ty will want 15
If Carter, Moncrief, and Dorsett develop, you may see Hilton go
I hate to say it, but this IS a cold business
These players have to watch out for themselves........ one injury, and you can be cooked.
With the monster luck contract, as well as AC. (He will demand top 10 money at LT if not top 5)
and with the TE situation as well.......... it will be tough
If the 3 new WRs develop, you could very well see a sign and trade of TY next offseason.
You cant pay everyone top money..... never forget.... its a business
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The question for me is of he's better than Chapman or head the potential to be. We could use an upgrade at NT.
Yet to be determined
But, I really am not excited by Chapman.
When we drafted him he seemed like a great pick (where we got him)
He may be carrying too much weight, but I see a guy who gets no penetration, and gets moved back
Parry may need some coaching and some weight room, but sometimes the shorter stronger guy with some movement can get under the larger
OL pads and is tough to block because of leverage
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Keep in mind folks...Mewhort is still raw. Thrust into a starting role and did pretty good for a rookie. Not many rookies become great their first year. I say let's give him some time to develop before writing him off.
I don't think anyone is writing him off
He was our 2nd best lineman last year.
He just lacks in the run blocking side IMHO, that is needed to get holes opened
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He latches on well, His problem is he don't have a real strong hand punch (does't jolt a D Lineman back often), He is more agile then what some people say when it comes to getting to the 2nd level. He has tight hips, He also catches D Lineman at times instead of exploding into them. He can also once in a while get stood straight up in the run game
Latches on is great in the passing game
Latches on is not so good in the run game, if there is no movement.
I am not sure what tight hips are.
We have no FB in most cases....... The OL MUST open holes for the running attack to be successful.
I think our LT is getting better and better at moving a DE around on running plays.
Other than him, we really dont have that push anywhere
I hope Heremans can do it.
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I am a firm believer in the adage that "defense wins championships". However, I also like the saying in a lot of sports that "speed kills". With all of the speed we have at receiver the opposing OC is going to look like a little kid playing Whack-a-Mole. Just when he figures out how to stop TY, AJ pops up wide open. Stop AJ and Coby pops up. Stop Coby, TY and AJ and wouldn't you know it, Luck dumps it off to Gore wide open in the flats. Do scoreboards record into the hundreds?
It creates a HUGE mismatch, and someone should be open
I bet we start to see nickle packages on first down......... Gore will gain some nice yards
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All I know was that there was no worry about the left side of the line last year.....the right was a different story.
I think Mewhort did very well at pass blocking.
Its the run blocking where I believe he isnt at his best.
Our RBs didnt do well running left or right..... there weren't holes
He cant seem to move people out of way
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This article makes me want Evan Mathis on this team
IF we really want a running attack, we need some people that can run block.......... easy logic... right?
Some of the teams have 2 guards on this list..........
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A very accurate opinion on Mewhort, IMHO
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2472425-br-nfl-1000-ranking-the-top-70-guards-from-2014/page/23
They also dont think he can run block very well
I really think this guy deserves a chance to be our RT
Good enough at LG?
Great at RT?
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Its a tough message for a 22 year old........
Think back to THOSE days folks.......
My "logic" then wasn't ------- logical
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I heard one or two people say that he would be the replacement for TY
At first, I didnt think so.
However, looking at the contracts that Larry F and Calvin Johnson recieved (Over 16 mil)
I bet Dez gets 16 to 18m,......... it makes me wonder
I truly like TY, but is he worth 16 mil? His agent may want that number........
Can we afford 16m AND still pay Luck and the others that are coming up..... I dont know
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This IS actually a business question
This does really come down to TY and his agent
Does he seek top WR money?
Does his agent want Calvin Johnson money? (16.2 million)
Does his agent want Larry F money? (16.1 million)
Dez Bryants STARTING request will be 16 plus
or
Does his agent want Percy Harmon money (12 mil)
I say if its 8 -10 mill.... yes!
But..... Love the guy and all, but looking at the salaries, ........ it makes you wonder if the guy is going to want to be paid less
I dont think we have 12-16 million for TY
With the coming insane (but worth it) Luck Salary ---- (He will be paid the highest in the NFL)
We wont be able to tie up so much a few players, IMHO
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I really like this move....... to me, having a player of this caliber, could be the difference that gets us to, and wins us the SB...... THIS YEAR!
A 2 year deal, allows us to not be stuck for the long haul
DO IT!
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We want to go as LONG as possible on his rookie contract..........
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10 Banners the Colts are Set to Unveil at Lucas Oil Stadium: https://t.co/hV70gLhAQ7 pic.twitter.com/RohMsx69vj
— SportsPickle (@sportspickle)
June 11, 2015I about spit my coffee on my desk.......
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We are the only team in the NFL to my knowledge that puts this stuff up
Championship?........ absolutely
Division win..... maybe
runner up....... NAH
... Come to think about it, I havent seen this stuff at pro Hockey or Basketball
To me....... it deters from the championships..... and looks like a participation trophy
Its a bit silly IMHO
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Love my Colts....
but
The banner thing is a bit ridiculous
If you go to other stadiums, they dont make a banner for division championships
Its like a star on the fridge.......
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No thank you to Jones at NT...the man has a lot of weight but too much of it is blubber...his butt is a wide as 2 other players.
He needs to find some will power to back away from the groceries and try to get to training camp at a good playing weight...not reporting in at 350+ like last year and then spending many weeks getting down to where he could play...and he was still too fat and got injured because of it.
I suspect his weight problem is the reason the Ravens did not mind him leaving.
I was thinking he might deserve a try at NT because of way he played (and before he gained a few LBs) at the Ravens as a really big run stuffing specialist DE.
And....... because I think that we need to get our best 3 DL on the field at the same time.
I may be too high on Anderson, as many rookies dont pan out, but he seems to have all the tools to at least be better than what we had.
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Wacko!
We were awesome on first down with Chapman through the 1st seven games.
No one in the league was Close to us in 2nd and 3rd and longs.
You folks are totally lost on the subject.
This stuff was covered well during the broadcasts for those who watched AND Listened.
Ouch....
Of course, maybe you could change things and make the playoffs and SB in the first seven games........
The games that mattered...the last 10.......... Chapman just wasnt there.......
Wacko? OK, been called worse
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I suppose it is possible but I would say it is extremely unlikely they trade a TE. If Swoope can play they have depth now. If they trade Allen and then have an injury they have a real problem.
Doyle really isnt a bad player. I consider him quality depth
If Swoop comes on, you will have 4 valid players for 3 spots (or maybe even 2 spots)
At least one quality player will be gone
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I see Fleener as much more likely trade bait than Allen. If they're grooming Swoope for anything, it's more Fleener's role than Allen's. Plus, Allen is a rare talent.
You may be right, but Allen to me, is still more potential and quite honestly a bit of a risk to the Colts as he hasnt beaten the injury bug
Thats why I would consider him.
I do believe that some of the reps that Fleener took last year will be taken by a WR
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Manning's third year stats have nothing to do with this argument but since you want to know.
Manning had 15 interceptions and 1 fumble in his 3rd year. 7 less turnovers than Luck.
My initial post said that in order for Luck to become elite he needs to stop turning the ball over at a rate comparable to Mark Sanchez and Jay Cutler, I have no idea what that has to do with Manning.
Manning didnt get hit nearly as much as Luck is .... it matters, and contributes to the fumbles
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Their roster management this year will be interesting to see how it unfolds.
If Swoope proves to be a player, I don't think they can risk exposing him to the PS even though I think their bigger plans for him would be in 2016.
Other positions of interest - how do they handle the log jam at receiver? Barring injury, clearly Johnson, TY, Dorsett & Moncrief are locks. Does Whalen still have PS eligibility? If Carter shows he can play at all, do they risk the same situation with Swoope and try to sneak him onto the PS? Would they keep 6 WR's on the active roster?
RB is also interesting. I think ideally they would like to carry 3 on the active roster and have one on the PS in the likely event of injury. Gore is a lock. But between Herron, Ballard, Robinson & Tipton - are any of those guys definitive to make the opening day roster? Herron I would think is the closest to a sure thing but that is certainly not a lock.
OLB also interests me - Werner, Walden, Newsome, Cole, Cam Johnson & Mathis can't all make the roster. Clearly if Mathis is healthy they would like him to be there in September. But I think him on the PUP to start the season is not the worst thing in the world.
Anyway - sorry to take the thread off track.
I agree. It will be tough
I like Carter to be number 5 at WR
Cam Johnson REALLY has to show something to stay
Gore, Robinson, Herron, Tipton to PS
But, depending on Development.... we will have one TE too many
I dont think that they move Fleener, Swoop, or Doyle
I think the person that COULD get traded is Is Allen
I believe him to have some trade value, like a late 2nd.
Swoop or Doyle dont have the value.
Geathers could start for us
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Well...... I hope so, but I have seen some garbage play from some OL that went on game after game, after game.....