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Sorry COLTS7 but C for the defense is generous. Defenses win play offs and SBs.. You need to have a shut down defense so that any third & long is always 4th down for the opposition. You cannot be at the bottom or even the bottom half of the league in team defense against the run. You have to have linebackers who can at least stay with tight-ends or RBs out of the backfield. And finally you need a coach who can make adjustments to counter the unexpected, play by play, team by team. We have little if any of those key traits. We made the defense older & slower in one year with the FAs Grigson has signed. Mathis is a legend but no longer a consistent threat and cannot go the entire game any longer. On this point I respectfully disagree with a C for the overall defense.
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Respectfully to all who think that Grigson should be given some room to improve. I say in this day & age, football is an unforgiving & demanding business. You simply can't make as many mistakes as he has made and hope that he will learn on the job. You are talking about the guy whose sole job it is to identify the needs of a team
and bring in the talent to meet those needs and get it to the SB. The only thing he has demonstrated is that he lacks the ability to do either. If Pagano's conflict with him
is about the talent he is trying to coach, then maybe I can be persuaded in seeing him continue.
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Another great analysis COLTS7. I can only hope the rumblings & rumors
about Pagano & Grigson are for real. I can only repeat, Grigson destroyed the fabric of this team with many poor draft choices and free agent signings. We are the OLDEST team in the league. Pagano is at fault for not "fixing the problems" which he declares he will do at every presser. We don't have SB caliber talent at too many important positions, mostly along either O or D lines. Grigson brought in bullets but he didn't know the gun he was trying to load.
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COLTS7, great analysis as always, thanks. Where we part ways is on the talent side of the equation. We do have some really talented players, we just don't have enough to be SB contenders. And I lay the blame at the feet of Grigson. He turned this team into the oldest
in the league in one year, mortgaging the future for what he hoped would be a SB run this year. Problem is he did not bring in the talent level, he just brought in a bunch of past their prime players who are not producing and who are sucking up valuable cap money. Combine that with three horrendous drafts and it becomes clear why we are where we are.
Turning this team around is going to take a smart GM with a real eye for talent and who
will clearly identify the most pressing needs of this team. It will take 2-3 years if we
make the change now.
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Amen John242
It's Not Hard To Understand, It's Hard to Fix
Posted by Ehrman.Dutton.Cook.Barnes, 26 October 2015 · 143 views
In just three short years we went from one of the youngest teams, with some potential, to THE OLDEST TEAM IN THE NFL !!!! In the
last year alone, we went from a team that went one step further to a team that is in serious regression. Why? Because we replaced that group of players with a bunch of over the hill, cap-$ sucking, dinosaurs who have not improved on what we had last year. Add to that the fact that our last three number one draft choices were all wrong-headed for what this team needed. So it's not hard to understand why we are watching a team with such high expectations, (according to the Grigson/Pagano analysis) implode. How to fix it? Grigson, Pagano and his entire staff have to go. Otherwise, we all know what the definition of insanity is, keep doing what
you're doing hoping for a different result. I realize this is dramatic in scope, but
with the right people managing the team and the right GM bringing in the needed talent, maybe when Luck turns 30 we might field a competitive team around him while his best years are still out there.
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Thanks COLTS7 for the perspective. I guess I'm just very frustrated and it's coming out sideways. Manning & Luck = 1 SB.
unacceptable. Simply stated even with upgraded talent at a few key positions which Grigson is incapable of identifying, Pagano
and his staff are incapable of developing them. So I agree, a couple of studs on the O-Line and D-Line and we could right the
ship. However, remember thanks to Grigson, we've got some real dinosaurs on this roster with non-performance contracts which need to be dealt with. Sorry, But we may be looking at a couple of years of this kind of up & down performance until we get a Jim
Harbaugh or a Sean Payton to coach some talent that someone with a proven eye for talent does the signing.
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Not sure where to start. I said in my "Defining Moment" blog, that if we experience an embarrassing loss, we can give up any SB dream. Well, the loss was embarrassing less for
performance and more because of sheer incompetence. Although the O-line yet again & still
is woefully inadequate, our skill players made some good plays. In terms of performance,
we had to resort to on-side kicks, fourth down go for it plays and a monumentally,
inexcusable and to be blunt stupid play to try and stay up with a superior team. You simply can't rely on high risk, high reward plays to beat any opponent. And second half looked
like nothing was learned from the successes we had in holding Gronk in check in the first
half. Is that on the Coaching or talent? I contend that's on the coach and his assistants
COLTS7I think you are being entirely too generous in describing Pagano & Grigson as good
but not great.
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COLTS7, well said. And regressing not only in talent acquisition but developing the players we have. Even if the talent is "OK" as you suggest (and I agree) with few exceptions there are too may players who have not been pushed or coached to their potential.
We can only hope that we can either cut or trade our way back into a position of being able to attract and afford the real talent we need. I am convinced that Grigson cannot for two reasons: 1. his track record would be on display and 2. if Irsay is paying
attention, which I am sure he is, who would entrust this guy with a say on the owner's checkbook.
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COLTS7, Thanks for the historical perspective. I can nit pick some of your Good/OK/Not good choices. But here is the irrefutable fact about Grigson. We have gotten older faster than any other team in NFL in THREE YEARS!!! We have misspent CAP dollars so
when it comes time to sign Luck, we will need to break the bank and consequently have little left to replace the dinosaurs who
will either retire or get cut. We'll have to wait and see if Luck gets back to his normal arm strength, again a fact that is an
indictment of Grigson who clearly did not identify and fill the O-Line needs. BTW, what did he & Pagano not see in Dion Lewis who is having a break-out year in New England. Sorry, but by any measure, he may have set this team back years. I contend the team
has been successful despite Grigson, not because of him.
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COLTS7, I really appreciate your detailed synopsis. Gritty, gutsy performance by Matt and the offense, line play was best yet and Clowney & Watts weren't factors. But too many big issues too overlook. The result of this game came down to which team would have the fewest critical penalties. If you think this defense is ready for Tom Brady and that offense I think you need to consider how open Deandre Hopkins was all night and how easy that TD pass was to complete. Pagano again says there are things to "fix". Defense was supposed to be his calling card, his stock in trade. The one piece of shocking news that came out last night was that we have the oldest team in the league, Three years ago we were among the youngest with the most cap money of any team. Look what Grigson has done and the "talent" he has brought in in three short years. What he has done to this team is a disaster
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COLTS7: I am with you, The guy that gave us 80% of the current roster still has a job. How does that happen?
Archer: PFF's notwithstanding, our lines are not good, consistent and are the source of much of what is wrong with both O & D. Look at the FA line men on either O or D Grigson brought in. That is the real problem with this club, a GM who has no eye for talent or identifying the real needs of this club. If Luck's arm is permanently damaged, Grigson MUST go.
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Archer, "Luck got hurt because of his scheme?" What does that mean? It's not his scheme - it's Pagano & Hamilton's scheme! As for calling the O-line average is really way, way off. Luck got hurt because of the O-Line, not any bad scheme. The focus of the draft and FA signings needed to be protect the best, and the most important player on the team, which Grigson failed miserably to do. The defense played well against a less than talented offense, and once again it's weakness is the D-Line. Both lines need major upgrade which I have no confidence Grigson can fix given the other dumb moves he's made in less than 4 years.
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COLTS7 , agreed, a pretty good draft but only marginally addresses the real needs of the team. Focus needed to be on offensive line, Luck has to, has to, has to get protection and the running game must compliment his skills. Some good young draftees on defense, again better than average but we just gave up 33 points and could easily have lost to a rookie QB, talented as he may be. Sorry but I still contend SB talent on this roster includes 5-6 players, not including kickers, and while we have some better than average players on the roster, we're still not seeing how they can play together and develop with Pagano & his staff. You want best practices, look at Patriots who lose talented players and still compete for or win SB's. The guy that won last year's SB with that interception has above average talent but was ready for that play. Can the same be said of our preparation week in and week out?
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Yes COLTS7, a win is a win. But I don't expect that any personnel issues will be addressed effectively this year as long as the Pagano/Grigson team is in place. Recent report card on FA signings is pathetic. Lance Louis & Todd Herremans were benched Andre Johnson looked like an old man running slow pass routes. As it turns out Dorsett (who I think was a draft day mistake) should get more reps over Johnson, if Pagano & Grigson had an ounce of good judgment. All that cap money blown on so many duds.
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Just listened to the Pagano presser. Did I understand him to say the one indispensable, face of the franchise player should now be able to play effectively behind the Swiss cheese O-line that Grigson was responsible for assembling? No amount of walking back that comment can explain that one. But as always he wants our confidence that he is going to "fix" things. I'm just fed up with him, Grigson and Irsay for his silence and lack of action.
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One more thing about Grigson. Going into last year I think we had the largest or close to the largest cap room for FA's. Who did we sign but a bunch of over 30 players who we hope will give us 2 quality years. That is not what I call building a dynasty.
In my opinion when you have not had a proven track record as a GM in pro football, you need to work under one to learn best
practices in drafting & recruiting. Look at New England. They lose star talent every year and somehow put a competitive team
on the field who actually win SBs.
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Well said COLTS 7. Aside from the turnovers & penalties, there were three plays that stand out for me and speak volumes about the team and the staff.
1. Werner had a clear shot at Fitzpatrick and couldn't catch him. Fitzpatrick is not what you would call either speedy or elusive.
2. In the second half Walden had wrapped Ivory in his arms for no gain. I guess he didn't want to hurt him so he let him go for an 8 yard gain.
3. In the first quarter drive, the Colts had a second and three from inside the Jet's 15
yard line and they call on their secret, potent offensive threat, Joe Reitz. Boy did that surprise the defense. Refresh my memory but hadn't Gore been running pretty well on that
drive.
Those three plays for me speak volumes about this roster and the coaching staff. I am on the record as casting Grigson as incapable of understanding the talent needs of this team.
Geez, I hope they can turn this thing around this year, but their losses have not even been competitively played.
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Thanks COLTS 7. I was part of the Johnny U era and am a New Yorker. I watched the Greatest Game Ever Played in a room full of NY Giant relatives and they wanted to string me up for rooting for the Colts. As I said I hope I'm wrong and that this first game was no indication of the rest of the year. Being in NY I have many friends and relatives who are Jet fans. We have a 48 hour rule that says no gloating for 48 hours after the game. I hope I'm not on the receiving end of Wednesday's calls.
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Sorry but anyone who says opening game history has not been good in the past or that the rain hurt the Colts more than the Bills is rationalizing a poor performance by a better than average but not a SB caliber roster. Applying the logic of not doing well on opening day is like saying we have always won the 7th game every year. As for the rain excuse, the Bills didn't play between the raindrops last time I checked the film. I'd like to be more optimistic, but as long as Pagano and Grigson are in the picture, I'm struggling. I can only hope I'm totally wrong because going through another year of lots of promise and hype and no ring is getting old.
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Brady said it best, they (the Colts) got pushed around. While one game does not define a season, although this one was a major embarrassment, when we play the Patriots, I believe that game will define this season. Hopefully we're 4-1 when we do face Brady, but if we don't do the Patriots what they did to us in January, that will define the season.
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What is so discouraging about this organization, if (a big IF) Luck comes close to Manning level accomplishments, which means one more SB and many outstanding regular seasons, we will have wasted the talents of two of the best quarterbacks to have played the game.
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Let me see. One of our #1 draft picks is a bust (Werner), our GM just went out and signed some free agents whose best years are
behind them, we drafted a wide receiver instead of a stud DL or OL, our head coach is still "fixing the problems", after Luck and some 3-4 quality NFL caliber players, our next best players are our kickers. The short answer NO!
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COLTS7, I hear you and maybe expectations for this team as currently constituted are unrealistic. I think football fundamentals are just inconsistent and sometimes non-existent. You could argue we have talent, but if I agree (which I don't), then why is it that they can't consistently execute, and I am not just talking this game but I go back to last year when tackling & blocking were consistently poor. No question, we have some quality players at the skill positions, but what good is that if you lack the fundamental execution by the other positions.
As far as bad luck explaining some of Grigson's FA signings and drafts, we already covered the Dorsett selection. What about TRich, Ricky Jean Francois, LaRon Landry, Bjorn Werner all in less than four years. You can't blow two number 1's (TRich & Werner) in four years.
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COLTS7 you said it all. And let me add that one game DOES define a season, not necessarily this one but the one against the Patriots in October. If we go 2/3 or 3/2 that game will not only define the season but will tell you all you need to know about the chances of getting to the play-offs. Let's be icy cold about this team, after Luck we have maybe 3-4 quality players, the rest of the team is no more than average. We have an average coach and a below average GM who can't identify talent with two hands. Dorsett was a wasted opportunity to address the many real needs of the team. I don't want to go over all his many poor choices in talent procurement, but why is Bjorn Werner on this team? We will need luck (pun intended) to build a team around Andrew that will be competitive enough to be a SERIOUS SB contender with Grigson & Pagano trying to build it.
Color me disgusted.
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Colts/falcons-they call it gritty
in COLTS7's Blog
A blog by COLTS7 in General
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Agree with all. Great effort from adequate talent. I think it's safe to say that pre-season expectations are now a distant memory. Let's hope for a new GM who can deliver the talent within the financial constraints Grigson has left behind and will be more astute in the draft. I think we have a shot at the play-offs given our weak division but not much more than that. As always as a die hard fan I'm hoping for more than last year but as a realist not sure we have the talent to get us there. Hope is a good thing.