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We have rookie 1st round QB, injured in his 1st season as a pro. QB, who did not start a lot in college. We have WR, known for his consistency, durability and production. I don't want another Funchess-like sign. Enough cheap decisions.
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So now it's 2 transactions: 1st to replace Pittman, 2nd to get another one WR. I'm all for ger another WR, so we discuss 1st part of the plan. Colts know everything about Pittman: health, dedication, knowledge of the game, so, everything. And now you want Colts to replace Pittman, who wants to get paid, with WR, who wants to get paid and overpaid also!!! And Colts know much less about that player and HOPE that he can be as good as Pittman for less money. Hm, sounds like a plan to me...
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It's overpay situation for the Colts. We need all WR's we can get ASAP. Not pretty for sure, let's rework contract later.
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I think, it's ok to design play for player strength or to hide his weakness. Nobody says Pittman is the best in the league, even in his category. He happens to be 1 of 2 our best WR's and rest of our WR's are not even close. Since no one can garantie long term success of signed or drafted player, Pittman should stay.
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1 hour ago, smittywerb said:
I don’t know why we colts fans are so enamored with stats. Downs honestly is our BEST receiver right now. The fact that he has comparable stats to Pittman and has 20 less targets shows the difference in impact on the field.
Happy to see both are productive however. I was just chiming in on the convo above. Still think that if we could somehow trade for a WR1 (I would love to get Terry McLaurin) or draft one (MHJ) I’d be ok with letting Pittman walk. Downs has shown me that he can be a very good WR2 this year and hopefully grow into a WR1.Sorry, I can't understand you. If we could trade OR draft WR1, you would let Pittman walk, right? So we would have that 1 WR1 (signed or drafted), Downs and... who? Pierce? Dulin? And if that WR1 or Downs would be injured? Suspended? Have down year? If Downs get sophomore slump? Even if we are lucky, only 2 good WR's will not keep DC's up at night also.
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And a VERY large corner...
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If Dobbs is well known in 10 NFL front offices, lets keep him and let Dodds go. On the other hand, he was part of drafting Orekee, who is not on the team already...
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https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-highest-graded-rookie-rankings-nfl-week-11-2019
Looks good so far.
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On 8/25/2019 at 10:39 PM, Pragmatic said:
He got hurt doing none football activities. No one is questioning his talent. He just decide it was not that important to him.
He could have retired after last season. Doing it 2 week before the opener is put the team in a terrible position.
Don't you think that non-football activities were so dangerous because Luck was beat a lot in football games? That's why he retired: he realised, simple non-football activities can be dangerous now. What's next? Concussion because of being hit with a pillow?!
And don't you think, Andrew told about his decision to Jim and Chris long ago, and they asked him to think about it more?
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9 minutes ago, coming on strong said:
i would gladly take those injuries for 100 million.... its hard to feel so bad when you see guys like farve with broken ribs playing . ty had a worse foot injury last year walking with a bad limp and still carried the colts never gave up . luck gave up simple as that. he never had the brady manning passion for the game he is into other stuff and got bored of working . if tom brady missed 5 season in a row he would never quit . we need a Qb with a burning passion not one who gives up with a mild sprain. that is why i love manning and wanted to keep him with spine surgery couldnt even grip a football a injury 100 times worse then anything luck went through and his passion to never give up is why i am his biggest fan.
It's very easy to be so brave on Internet, right? What do you know for sure about Andrew's injuries? Yeah, playing with broken ribs is a great headline to remember... but not when you can't remember your girl's name because of concussion.
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Basic logic rule: after that is NOT because of that. He took so much beating before 2016 and after 2016, so it's not like he thought about "money and quit" in 2016.
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The Colts have 51 pressures this season coming from their rookies, which is the most for any team. Kemoko Turay leads the team with 33, while Darius Leonard, Tyquan Lewis, Matthew Adams and Skai Moore have all contributed.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-stats-to-know-for-all-32-nfl-teams-entering-week-13
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Because PFF rates not how much tackles LB got, but how he did it.
Player A covered RB so close, QB didn't even try to pass to RB or passed, but RB can't secure ball. Playing the run, Player A filled his gap nicely, RB cut outside and was tackled by DE.
Player B covered RB bad, RB took pass for 20 yards and was tackled from behind by Player B. Playing the run, Player B took bad angle, was blocked by WR and chased RB for 49 yards gain.
Official NFL statistics: Player A - 0 tackles, Player B - 2 tackles. Player A - LVE, Player B - Pat Angerer or T.J. Green. Darius is Player A-.
If I remember correctly, he was rated poor after one game because he allowed catches for more than 100 yards. That was discussed here some weeks ago.
And quantity of games or snaps played doesn't affect rate: Dante Fowler was graded 90.8 being rotational player. Safety Harris from Vikings was graded 96.3 (!) and he did not play even 50 snaps to be ranked.
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So Colts need not 3 quality LB, but 3 quality S to play at the same time. Sure, you can't keep 3 LB on the field against 3 WRs and 1 athletic-but-bad-blocker TE.
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Here we go again. Cooper worth 5th round max.
Just like Trent Richardson, Cooper had 1-2 above average season, and that fact doesn't turn him into star.
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Geno Atkins, Carlos Dunlop, Brandon Graham, Fletcher Cox, J.J. Watt are All-Pro already. Pretty obvious rookie future All-Pro can lose rep here and there to present All-Pro. Blocking for Saquon Barkley, not Jordan Wilkins, helps also.
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Going against Geno Atkins, Carlos Dunlap, Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham, J.J. Watt... Not bad at all. Even Clark, Haeg, Slauson held their own against such competition.
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41 minutes ago, richard pallo said:
But; In 2019 Jacoby Brisett leads Colts to Super Bowl win and wins MVP.
Ah, so that was a plan...
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For all people wanted Ballard to trade for Mack, Bell, Cooper.
July 2018: Ballard traded 1st round of 2019 and 1st round of 2020 for Mack, get 2nd round 2020. Sign Mack 141 mil. for 6 years.
August 2018: Ballard traded 2nd round of 2019 and 2nd round of 2020 for Bell. Sign Bell 70 mil. for 4 years.
September 2018: Ballard traded 3rd round of 2019 for Cooper.
October 2018: Colts are 6-0.
November 2018: Andrew Luck injured his repaired shoulder and retired.
April 2019: Colts trying to find franchise QB with 4th round pick, their first of the 2019 NFL Draft.
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If I were Ballard in March 2018, I would do just the same: wait and see. It sounds crazy, but with all Luck's situation best approach was and is is to get good players, who can't win games, but can help win games. OL&DL in first place, TE&LB second. If Luck is good to go - draft and sign playmakers at WR, RB, CB positions. If Luck is done - draft his replacement and start from the very beginning.
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31 minutes ago, richard pallo said:
Gruden's first year , new offense and new OC, and Carr has regressed. Gruden is openly unhappy with Carr. Cooper would flourish with Luck plain and simple. I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded to the Colts the day after we play them. We have the picks to get it done. If they can trade Mack they can trade Cooper. Then all we have to do is sign Bell when he becomes a FA and we're contenders before the draft has even begun.
Do you remember beginning of this thread? "Ballard doesn't want to spend big in FA."
I don't believe even Gruden has power or balls to cut or trade all Raiders' best players. He can be unhappy with Mack, Carr, Cooper and everyone else, but he will keep them. Some of them. Even his new QB has to have some targets! So Carr has better chances to be traded somewhere (Giants, anyone?), than Cooper.
And now back to topic: do not spend BIG on Cooper. That was my opinion. Sure, when people see headlines "Raiders willing to trade Cooper, former 1st rounder with back-to-back 1000-yards seasons!" they become like "Give me two!" But right now Cooper isn't a sure thing. Not for the price Raiders would ask. Now he is like Dwayne Allen: promising rookie, underachieving veteran. 5th round. Max.
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40 minutes ago, ericdcoltsfan said:
Carr was just sacked 5 or 6 times last game and Carr is not Luck so once again your comparison is worthless. Not to mention we just got Costanzo back and our oline is going to improve. It's one thing if a QB is going through progressions but another when they have to instantly dump to the safety valve. Cooper is not a bad receiver just in a bad offense right now. So i'm not sure what point you are trying to make it but you're most definitely not making it. But go ahead...try again.
People thinking only their opinions are "worthful" make me laugh every time. Romo was killed behind Frederick's, Martin's, Smith's backs, so what? Why are you so sure with Castonzo our oline is going to improve? Is it a given? Or didn't Castonzo have down years? Why do you blame Raiders OL in one sentence just to state in other Gruden's scheme is not a fit for Carr (bad offense)? Sure, it can be both, but it's not common 5 linemen to regress in 1 year together.
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2 hours ago, ericdcoltsfan said:
Your comparison only works in a vacuum. It's not like he gets the choice of throwing himself the ball and Carr sure isn't able to do it behind his oline. I have a coworker who is a huge Raiders fan and he has seen every game this year. His take is that Cooper is getting open a lot, even while being double teamed, but Carr is having to throw to the check down receivers. They aren't able to get off many passes past 5 yards. Cooper is obviously frustrated but could come here and flourish within this offense. It is hard to find talent like Cooper, so if you are to dip your toes in free agency then I would have done it with Gordon first, low risk/high reward, and then with Cooper. Throw out a third rd pick and see if they bite. The issue will be with extending his contract and how you structure that, but it would take pressure off of the draft to have to find a wideout.
"Is getting open a lot, but Carr is having to throw to the check down"? So you want to say Cooper is getting open... just not quick enough? What a great WR to have! You know, Colts have a lot of WR, who are getting open a lot, but Luck is having to throw to check down.
And why do you name Raiders' OL bad?! Rodney Hudson, Gabe Jackson, Kelechi Osemele, Kolton Miller... Believe PFF or not, but these guys were #3 overall unit and # 1 pass blocking last year. And this year they are in same category as Colts.
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Cooper had 680 yards on 48 receptions in 2017, good for 14,2 yards per reception... but 87 yards (12,79%) came on one reception! So it's basically 12,7 yards per reception. This season Cooper has 22 receptions for 280 yards, good for... 12,7 yards per reception. He is on pace for 747 yards. So you want to trade one of our 1st round picks (second 1st round pick for Bell, of course) for Ryan Grant 2.0.
MPJ IS a number 1. Period.
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IMO, WR1 is the one, who can garantie you a 1st down. After 1st down. After 1st down. Not 10 TDs, not 200 yards. Just like RB1 or TE1. It's team game.